CA CA - Susan Jacobson, 59, Sun City/Roseville, 2 May 2013 - #2

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  • #581
This case fascinates me yet breaks my heart. I haven't been able to get her out of my mind. I think its because of the lack of care shown by those closest to het. In one of the earlier post her husband said something to the effect that life goes on (not verbatim) and he was on his computer playing games !!! He should have been designing posters...... that is of course if there was a chance of finding her.

Bless your heart WS - you seem to be the only ones that still care and love her. I hope she is found soon and whoever is responsible for this will have good reason for thinking about her every day from his jail cell.
 
  • #582
This case fascinates me yet breaks my heart. I haven't been able to get her out of my mind. I think its because of the lack of care shown by those closest to het. In one of the earlier post her husband said something to the effect that life goes on (not verbatim) and he was on his computer playing games !!! He should have been designing posters...... that is of course if there was a chance of finding her.

Bless your heart WS - you seem to be the only ones that still care and love her. I hope she is found soon and whoever is responsible for this will have good reason for thinking about her every day from his jail cell.

It is such a delicate situation due to the laws of not being able to post posters in many places, but a permit can be bought, to go door-to-door and bring attention to Susan being missing, and also in a previous post I mentioned that something about perhaps there isn't a need for a permit, if it is with goodwill and good intentions to bring attention to Susan(police should be consulted on that to know for sure.) There are ordinances that have to be met for certain criteria.
Also, as much as I would be yelling to the world about Susan being kidnapped,( as Susan's husband thinks she was kidnapped and Susan's son feels foul play also happened,) they do not for whatever reason seem to want to be in the public eye now. Maybe, all in all, it is how They do things, and obviously actions speak louder than words, and words aren't spoken anymore, so clearly they have clammed up, for whatever Their reasons are.
It is SAD to me, but perhaps this IS the way they deal with her missing, or this is the way they cope. It isn't the way I would do things, but clearly they are showing how they would or would not do things.
I hope she is found. Sadly, I don't think she is alive.
What reason would Susan have to bring about this charade of a kidnapping, if she left on her own? Who was she afraid of and why if she left on her own? Why not just leave....if she really made this up, then why, what was she so afraid of that she couldn't or wouldn't ask for a divorce?
If this kidnapping was made up for unknown reasons and Susan was an unwilling participant, then why would somebody not want her around her family anymore? What would they stand to gain? Who would stand to gain what?
If this kidnapping was for real and Susan was an unwilling participant, what was the motive? Why?
Why leave the car without the keys?
The car definitely could not be stolen without the keys, so no theft there.
The car was there to be found.
Why leave her wallet with ID, but no credit cards or money?
The credit cards were not used, so no theft there.
The ID left in the wallet was there to be found.
In fact, these items were there to be found in the place her husband said she would be that morning.
Did she make it to the shopping center, or not?
If she didn't make it to the shopping center at all, then these items were placed there to "suggest" she was kidnapped from there.
If she made it to the shopping center, why isn't she on any videos at all?
Where could Susan be??
IMOO.
 
  • #583
I just wish somebody had really put up a fuss day one. I felt very sorry for Susan when I read her story and had no reason to at first. I felt like this was a very sad lonely woman. I wish somebody who knew them would speak up. Maybe nobody does know them.
I think she never got to the store.
 
  • #584
No FB posts on the missing page since July 25.

What a cute petite lady. It worries me how tiny and meek she seems. Pretty vulnerable to being over-taken by someone. I'm sure she has fight in her, we all do, but if you wanted an easy target you'd chose her stature over most.

Now that I've read about her I won't soon forget.


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  • #585
I think what drew my eye out to that Garden Highway area, it that Baseline-Riego heads west to there from Roseville, and crosses 99/Golden St Hiway, and it looks like it could be used to head south to catch the 5...like maybe an alternate way to 5 that people know about...

Yes Nik, that second turn off, stuff like that, that doesn't lead to a private residence.

These locations may not make any sense....but neither does Susan missing, she IS somewhere. And my personal opinion is she did not make it to that shopping center. I think of dear Hailey Dunn, her remains being found off a dirt road leading to a lake, people going by for days and days....

I must admit I was wondering how you came up with the locations - though they are good ones! And you're right, Susan missing doesn't make sense... so it makes sense to look just about everywhere at this point, heartbreaking as it is.

From personal experience only, Riego to Garden Highway and then to a boat launch is a fairly popular route from the Roseville area. We have one friend who goes that way at least weekly in the summer. I also know of people who use it as a way to get to the airport if traffic is bad. Riego is also (or was anyway.. it's been awhile since I've been out there) fairly well known for illegal street/drag racing, although I think that has decreased some as more housing developments have come in. IMO it wouldn't be a completely unfamiliar road to most people who've lived around here for awhile.

Yes, that second turnoff I posted a pic of is the one that gave me the creeps. There are a ton of spots like that...even more as you get further north or south. I wish I could do more physically speaking, but reality is I can't climb up and down levees in the brush - however, I can definitely drive down there, walk around the flat areas, and see if there's anything to see.

As an aside, oh my gosh it's hard to think of an area I've always loved for being beautiful as also a spot to (owww this hurts to type) hide a person.
 
  • #586
nik I just stare at maps and think where would I put someone...if I were a horrid person..the sad thing is she could be any where. I need to go back to the vicinity of the shopping center and work my way out, looking at all those roads. I don't really think those golf courses ...but then again...depending on the when..I guess someone could carry her to a place ...sigh
Bless her heart she is so tiny.
I sure wish someone had come out and said the last time they saw her or spoke to her personally- like a neighbor or clerk or sister(s) Anyone! (can't recall how many sibs right off hand)
 
  • #587
places can still be beautiful no matter, maybe even more so if a missing person should be found there- at least finding them answers the question of where their earthly body is...its a place and evil doesn't have to linger after, kwim?
Good can triumph evil.
 
  • #588
Ugh I was unfortunately too sick today to go out as I'd planned. :( I'm still committed to going later this week though. It's supposed to start raining later tonight and through tomorrow. Doesn't look like a ton of rain, but I always wonder how that might change things when it comes to the creeks, rivers, etc.

You know, you're right, it can still be a beautiful place even if something sad happened there. I remember being in something between shock and awe when Linnea Lomax's Mom described finding her in a "very pretty place." I mean she just found her daughter deceased and hanging from a tree! But she saw the beauty in it. I like to think I learned something from that.

I hope I can get out later this week and see if there's anything I can do.
 
  • #589
nik I just stare at maps and think where would I put someone...if I were a horrid person..the sad thing is she could be any where. I need to go back to the vicinity of the shopping center and work my way out, looking at all those roads. I don't really think those golf courses ...but then again...depending on the when..I guess someone could carry her to a place ...sigh
Bless her heart she is so tiny.
I sure wish someone had come out and said the last time they saw her or spoke to her personally- like a neighbor or clerk or sister(s) Anyone! (can't recall how many sibs right off hand)

I've thought along the same lines that you have, sreshowtime. I guess it's trying to put ourselves in the other person's shoes... Some of those same locations you've identified have also crossed my mind, particularly the Dry Creek area. Since I live right in the area, I pass these locations every day. There is way more open space west of Roseville/Sun City area than anyone would think.

For me, it is all about when the last time anyone - other than the husband - had contact with Susan. Was it the previous evening, or was it the previous day, or was it two or more days prior to the report of her "missing"?

If there was a limited time to put a plan in action, then I could see the Dry Creek area or west of Roseville being legitimate search locations due to time constraints.

However, if the previous day or even longer was the last time somebody can confirm an independent contact with her, then it's a completely different story, right? Just a five-hour drive in any direction from Roseville (10-11 hours total trip), and you could be in southern Oregon, up the northern California coast, in the middle of Nevada, down in the Central Coast area of California, past Bakersfield/grape vine area, well into the foothill mountain ranges in central California near Yosemite. Seriously - every area is a possible search area until the possibilities can be more defined by identifying the last time she was known to be alive by anyone other than the husband.

That's what saddens me. It's so surreal to be near the area so often - I'm with my kids playing baseball and softball right there at Mahany Park, just across the street from the shopping center... She crosses my mind every single time I'm there.

My soapbox issue in this relates to the Roseville PD. I think they've done a miserable job of keeping attention on this...they need to let people know that either this is a voluntary disappearance and no worries to the community, or we have a possible kidnapper/killer somewhere in the Roseville area. People need to know whether extra precautions are in order - especially senior citizens in the area from Sun City.

Anyway...just my opinions...sorry for the rambling.
 
  • #590
I agree, imvho it would be very important if LE could elaborate on the status of the case thus far...whether they are thinking a voluntary or a more nefarious reason...right now my opinion is they dunno apparently.....or do they? You aren't rambling Think Blue, just doing the best you can , as we all are in this particular situation.

Roseville...where is Susan?
 
  • #591
Slowly creeping down the pages... so sad! Susan is on Page 4 of the forum.
Bumping for Miss Susan! Where are you dear?
 
  • #592
Page 4? Wow that makes me sad.

I haven't been able to make my trek yet... I want to go to the Roseville/Rocklin area to check out anything there might be to check out re: Susan, and also Bryce Laspisa and Stephen Pease. It frustrates me so much that I can't search for them more vigorously due to physical limitations, but I want to at least do what little I can. Unfortunately my plans keep going awry, but I'm hoping I can do this in the next week or so.

I really hoped Susan would be home in time for Thanksgiving with her new grandbaby.

ThinkBlue I know what you mean! As you know the area Susan went missing from is not generally considered an unsafe area. I'm so upset that there's not more attention on her situation. Is it voluntary or not? Is there a suspect? Or is someone randomly preying on strangers who appear vulnerable?
 
  • #593
I don't think Susan is discarded along any highway. I think whoever is responsible for her disappearance made careful plans to make sure she is never found. I too am sad that she is just "gone" and that seems to not bother anyone except us. :(
 
  • #594
I see there is no news on Susan.
I have read every single post on both threads and have to say that this is no usual missing persons case. It seems to have been a staged kidnapping, IMO. There was no all out effort to find her in the beginning and there is still no DNA on file even after all this time. There are no dental records on file even though I will bet anything that dental records do exist. What is going on here? Can Susan's sister not give a DNA sample to extract Mitochondrial DNA from? IF a body were to be found, DNA should already be on file. Maybe the sister can ask the family for dental records. Very, very few people Susan's age has not been to a dentist.

There are many threads on WS where family members may not be comfortable reading. There is a family support thread.

How would any LE be able to look at Susan's information and not be suspicious of the circumstances? It simply does not make sense, IMO. Of course there are questions. No credit or debit cards have been used, and the car could not be stolen because the keys were not in it. I doubt anyone would try to hotwire a vehicle on a store parking lot either in broad daylight.

Susan has no voice right now and no family or friends are speaking for her. (this is a point of fact) WHY aren't people still looking for her and why wasn't a MAJOR ongoing effort made to find her? She did not vaporize into thin air. While I am not accusing anyone of anything, LE hasn't ruled anyone or anything out.

I am so frustrated that almost nothing is known about this tiny mother and wife. She has become a grandmother and no woman I know would miss the birth of her first grandchild. Or any grandchild for that matter.

Please forgive me for saying so, but I do not believe Susan is alive. I sincerely hope and pray that she is found and that whoever is responsible will pay.

MOO
 
  • #595
I see there is no news on Susan.
I have read every single post on both threads and have to say that this is no usual missing persons case. It seems to have been a staged kidnapping, IMO. There was no all out effort to find her in the beginning and there is still no DNA on file even after all this time. There are no dental records on file even though I will bet anything that dental records do exist. What is going on here? Can Susan's sister not give a DNA sample to extract Mitochondrial DNA from? IF a body were to be found, DNA should already be on file. Maybe the sister can ask the family for dental records. Very, very few people Susan's age has not been to a dentist.

There are many threads on WS where family members may not be comfortable reading. There is a family support thread.

How would any LE be able to look at Susan's information and not be suspicious of the circumstances? It simply does not make sense, IMO. Of course there are questions. No credit or debit cards have been used, and the car could not be stolen because the keys were not in it. I doubt anyone would try to hotwire a vehicle on a store parking lot either in broad daylight.

Susan has no voice right now and no family or friends are speaking for her. (this is a point of fact) WHY aren't people still looking for her and why wasn't a MAJOR ongoing effort made to find her? She did not vaporize into thin air. While I am not accusing anyone of anything, LE hasn't ruled anyone or anything out.

I am so frustrated that almost nothing is known about this tiny mother and wife. She has become a grandmother and no woman I know would miss the birth of her first grandchild. Or any grandchild for that matter.

Please forgive me for saying so, but I do not believe Susan is alive. I sincerely hope and pray that she is found and that whoever is responsible will pay.

MOO

Thank You for your post and bringing Susan back to Page One.
I have also wondered about the dental records.
If Susan is deceased, it could prove to be helpful in identifying her remains if she were found. The same with DNA.
I have wondered if Susan has all her teeth, or did she wear dentures, or have dental implants? This information could also be helpful.
There have been MANY QUESTIONS ASKED, but FEW ANSWERED.
Therein lies the frustration of people WANTING TO HELP FIND SUSAN.
With questions being asked and not answered, that could actually HINDER the investigation in finding Susan.
I understand privacy for the family, but answering questions specifically about Susan could possibly help locate her, or if a UID was found, it could possibly identify Susan as that decedent.
IMOO.
 
  • #596
You're both right. She could already be found but without the DNA or dental, we wouldn't know. Poor Susan. Who is in her corner besides us?
 
  • #597
I have a feeling LE pretty much knows Susan's fate but
The need evidence to arrest who they believe responsible
Jmo
 
  • #598
I have a feeling LE pretty much knows Susan's fate but
The need evidence to arrest who they believe responsible
Jmo

I have a feeling you are correct, Eileen...

And I wonder just what it is that LE needs to make that arrest?

Wish I could help!

:sigh:
 
  • #599
I see there is no news on Susan.
I have read every single post on both threads and have to say that this is no usual missing persons case. It seems to have been a staged kidnapping, IMO. There was no all out effort to find her in the beginning and there is still no DNA on file even after all this time. There are no dental records on file even though I will bet anything that dental records do exist. What is going on here? Can Susan's sister not give a DNA sample to extract Mitochondrial DNA from? IF a body were to be found, DNA should already be on file. Maybe the sister can ask the family for dental records. Very, very few people Susan's age has not been to a dentist.

There are many threads on WS where family members may not be comfortable reading. There is a family support thread.

How would any LE be able to look at Susan's information and not be suspicious of the circumstances? It simply does not make sense, IMO. Of course there are questions. No credit or debit cards have been used, and the car could not be stolen because the keys were not in it. I doubt anyone would try to hotwire a vehicle on a store parking lot either in broad daylight.

Susan has no voice right now and no family or friends are speaking for her. (this is a point of fact) WHY aren't people still looking for her and why wasn't a MAJOR ongoing effort made to find her? She did not vaporize into thin air. While I am not accusing anyone of anything, LE hasn't ruled anyone or anything out.

I am so frustrated that almost nothing is known about this tiny mother and wife. She has become a grandmother and no woman I know would miss the birth of her first grandchild. Or any grandchild for that matter.

Please forgive me for saying so, but I do not believe Susan is alive. I sincerely hope and pray that she is found and that whoever is responsible will pay.

MOO
You have put my thoughts so well onto this post!

This IS an unusual missing persons case... For all those items presented above...

And... From what I can tell... WS is Susan's only voice now...


JMO
 
  • #600
I have a feeling you are correct, Eileen...

And I wonder just what it is that LE needs to make that arrest?

Wish I could help!




:sigh:


Me too! The silence in this tragedy screams loudly
 
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