Call me confused, re the FAX

[Bobbisangel]

I think that Jason arranged to have a fax or something sent and then he contacted his sister-in-law asking her to go pick it up, etc, etc. He wanted to make sure that Michelle's body was found while he was supposed to be out of town so that it would put him in the clear...he thought. Maybe the baby was an after thought and he knew that the sister-in-law would take the baby home with her and take care of her. Seems he didn't mind killing the baby's mother and leaving the baby there alone with her to wander around for how ever long it was. Guys like this should get the death penalty.

I can't remember what state this took place in but...will he get charged for killing the baby (fetus) too? I sure hope so.

 

[raisincharlie]

I think that Jason arranged to have a fax or something sent and then he contacted his sister-in-law asking her to go pick it up, etc, etc. He wanted to make sure that Michelle's body was found while he was supposed to be out of town so that it would put him in the clear...he thought. Maybe the baby was an after thought and he knew that the sister-in-law would take the baby home with her and take care of her. Seems he didn't mind killing the baby's mother and leaving the baby there alone with her to wander around for how ever long it was. Guys like this should get the death penalty.

I can't remember what state this took place in but...will he get charged for killing the baby (fetus) too? I sure hope so.

Bobbisangel,

Near As I remember in all the discussions here, NC does not have a fetal homicide law. As such, the perp will be charged with the murder of Michelle but not the baby she was carrying.

 

[raisincharlie]

Precisely...

Another scenario I've been working on.....

Also have to wonder if MM didn't have a hissy fit and send it across to inform Chelle of what had been happening behind her back though....specially if she ran out of patience waiting for Jason to leave Chelle....or Jason told her in no uncertain terms that he will not leave his wife for her or that she's just a 'piece of fluff'...or it may have been a one off and MM is one of those 'he shagged me once, he totally loves me and will leave her for me' kind of women. She may have been blackmailing him and threatening to tell Chelle for the past month or more.

In that case, MM would've sent the fax/email/printout on Thursday night during her hissy fit and Chelle may have picked it up, read it and put it on the printer to discuss with her 'loving husband' when he returned after she rang him at around 11pm and abused him.

That would give him a good reason to backtrack and kill her because by the time he got back he would've been fuming at both Michelle's. If step daddy is adamant about him having a lawyer, imagine what he would've been like with the 'scandal' of what had been going on for the past 3 months between Jason and MM. If they (mom and stepdad) are prominant members of their community in Brevard, that could been seen to be damaging to their reputation of 'fine church going citizens' and imagine stepdad's fury at Jason over such a scandal.

Anyway, just a thought that was in here :behindbar

Samiya,

Something just absolutely slapped me in the face. From the search warrants and searching out the Denver information - JY was not at home on their anniversary - he was in Denver. This I think pretty much eliminates all speculation about the purse being an anniversary present because I would think MY would let it be known to him before he left for Denver that their anniversary was while he was gone. I think this excuse provided by the insiders can be ruled - hogwash.

 

[scandi]

Hi Sami,

If MM sent that faxed print out, she did it only hours before the body was found, as stated in that warrant. It was plan B for the killer I think, since he had no calls about her being found yet and Cassie was there running loose.

I've been thinking about your post though. I can't see JY driving 2-3 hours to set up an alibi if he planned to drive back to the house and kill her. The alibi would only hold for the time of day that he checked in, as after that he could have driven anywhere.

I think he called her at 11 to see if she had any reservations about his leaving baggage and all, didn't she miss him? LOL And that is when she read him out and said things he didn't want to hear that would be a big threat to his future lifestyle.

I learned that in the SP case. Killers most often strike at the person who stands in their way of what they perceive as their happiness. If Michelle threatened to expose something about him that might cause his co to let him go, turn his family or friends against him and keep him from the playboy lifestyle, he could figure this woman is a danger and she isn't going to keep me from anything I want.

Scandi

 

[Bobbisangel]

Bobbisangel,

Near As I remember in all the discussions here, NC does not have a fetal homicide law. As such, the perp will be charged with the murder of Michelle but not the baby she was carrying.

I don't understand this. I remember when Laci's mom Sharon really pushed for this law and President Bush signing it. It was on the news and showed Sharon and some others there while he signed the bill. Well beings the president signed the bill shouldn't that mean that it covers every state now? I know that when Sharon R was pushing for this bill California already had this law so I just assumed that when the President signs then that means every state now has it.

 

[Samiya]

Samiya,

Something just absolutely slapped me in the face. From the search warrants and searching out the Denver information - JY was not at home on their anniversary - he was in Denver. This I think pretty much eliminates all speculation about the purse being an anniversary present because I would think MY would let it be known to him before he left for Denver that their anniversary was while he was gone. I think this excuse provided by the insiders can be ruled - hogwash.

Lol I just found this post and Scandi's below :bang:

(BTW, my above scenario lasted two and a half pages before it caved in on itself. I think MM would be the kind of person to either speak to Chelle on the phone if she was going to tell her anything or do it in person in private. But I doubt she would ever have told Chelle at all,so another scenario bit the dust, except it took a bit longer. I just couldn't remember where I posted it so I could add that in).

RE your post: I have to agree there. And that's a big hog to wash hon, lol.

Scandi, sorry I missed your post too hon

In setting up alibi's, people with an intent of murder will go to amazing lengths to cover their own backsides, as you've seen already with the SP case.

I have files on men who have driven over thousand mile 'round trips' to murder a spouse/ex spouse when they're supposed to be on 'business trips', which is why some of my scenarios seem way off in regards to travelling and murders. It depends on the amount premeditation involved and if Jason is guilty he may have been planning it for weeks or months prior (one of my files is on a man who planned for over a year to kill his wife and children) and just waited for 'the perfect opportunity'. Or it can be a last minute rage....head off and double back as soon as 'the coast is clear'....which in this case could be after an 11pm phone call. We don't know as yet how far away he was 'if' he rang Chelle at that time...but I'm sure interested in those cell phone records.

Did Cassidy hear the printer? The office/den is located upstairs in the house so chances are she may have heard it, not that the poor honey could tell anyone what time it was .....Heard it and went into the office to see what the noise was (one possible cause of some of the bloody footprints, so I'm interested in whether there were some in the office belonging to her) or heard it but was preoccupied with mom on the floor.

Another question I'd like to know the answer to is "Did MM know that Jason was away on a business trip if she was the one who sent the document"

If she knew he was away and if he asked her to send that document, did she wonder why he wanted it sent to the house? Or was she supposed to send it Thursday before he left?

I'm posting a separate post about the printer

Hugs for any chilly peoples!
Sami

 

[raisincharlie]

Lol I just found this post and Scandi's below :bang:

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Another question I'd like to know the answer to is "Did MM know that Jason was away on a business trip if she was the one who sent the document"

If she knew he was away and if he asked her to send that document, did she wonder why he wanted it sent to the house? Or was she supposed to send it Thursday before he left?

I'm posting a separate post about the printer

Hugs for any chilly peoples!
Sami

Sami

Of course I have to say something...as to the fax/printout, in my mind there are only two people who could have sent it if it turns out to be what the insiders are claiming it to be -about a purse. If so, JY could have sent it himself either via a lap top or from the browser on his phone. MM could have sent it if he spoke with her that morning and told her MY was at work and he would be home before her. I'm not sure JY has an actual place of business to go to work at every day - I think he works more from home so I doubt MM would even give it a second thought. She could have sent it on her own without any prompting but that seems doubtful IMO.

Depending on the outcome of how and why she sent it may have been one more reason for LE to put another check next to JY's name as a suspect. If he told her to do this -and LE knows he didn't go home but to Brevard instead, well the check mark is red. If she did it on her own, and it is obvious JY knew it was sent since he sent MF to get it, it doesn't look quite so bad and maybe he only gets a black check. If JY sent it himself, knowing he was going to Brevard, he still gets a red check. The thing MM should be asking herself is how the heck it got printed out and did she know it would be printed out when she sent it. I suspect not, and the forensic analysis of Jy's hard drive will tell when :

the computer was set to auto print - if it was
the computer was keyed by remote initiation to print - if it was
the computer was keyed to print at the computer direct - if it was

The only one that gets a black check is if the computer was set to auto print during a time period before JY left for his trip Thursday night. If after or either of the remaining two - JY gets a big red check. If MM sent it, her hard drive will serve to back up and support the answers obtained concerning the above or define it if the above cannot be ascertained. JY is not as smart as he has lead himself to beleive IMO.

Then again the thing could be related to something to do with business - but if so - another big red check for JY - no reason for MF to get it so MY would not see it. Pure bs - huge red check.

 

[Samiya]

Of course you have to say something ....and of course I love hearing from ya, lol I don't feel so lonely now drats on the time differences!

Thanks for that, you've saved some of my braincells lol

I've still got another thing to check up on so I'm off back to reading the warrants for a moment or 10.

Thanks hon, my brain cells love ya!

Sami

 

[strach304]

Sami, another thing to take into account with this particular case, if it was premeditated he very well may have had a timeframe in mind because she was pregnant.