Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #16

[Tinkerbel1]

I wonder if DG had access to one of these machines? It's a Washer/Shredder used in Chemical Manufacturing/Process plants. This one in particular is in a plastics plant in Ireland. It's not that big a unit and would easily fit in a small shed...maybe 220 V power? I'm wondering about Figures 4 and 5 of the attached document (sorry, I couldn't extricate the photos). Someone had said they thought they saw an "incinerator" from above (I think it may have been a news reporter at DG's last court appearance, Cherchri may be able to confirm). It would likely not have turned out to be that messy a venture, IMO.


View attachment Washer-Shredder used in Chemical Manufacturing.pdf

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Just a little time out here.. struck me funny this morning..
I have many dogs, very small dogs that if combined, would make up one medium sized dog, but the youngest one in particular, is just a tiny little thing who is spoiled beyond rotten.. she has to be coddled when she is fed because she is so tiny, it takes her so long to chew with that tiny little mouth and teeth that we have to keep her away from the others or her food would be gone before she had a chance to eat her first morsel. One of the family usually brings her to wherever they are, and sits there with her while she eats.. this morning it was me, and I brought her onto my desk.. and she didn't quite finish, there were a few morsels left in the bowl..
Then a few minutes later, I left my desk for a minute.. I forgot to push my chair all the way in so that no dogs could jump up in my absence.. and when I got back to my desk, I see this little 1" piece of a skinny blade of grass.. and I thought, hmm, where did that come from, and then I realized.. that is the evidence left behind by the dog thief who jumped up on my chair to eat the few morsels of remaining dog food left in the bowl on my desk, which were of course now gone. I am becoming quite the sleuther (and I have some very disobedient dogs).

LOL...sounds like my bunch! They're adorable, and yes, they're little bandits!

 

[deugirtni]

Haha re the typical hockey bag scent being pretty vicious.. our family has one that we use as a great big duffle bag/suitcase (never used for hockey equipment of course), and I do believe it is actually big enough for our entire family to fit into.. not necessarily big enough for all of the stuff we like to lug with us when we go away though. But still.. I think the bag would be somewhat floppy and not transported very well on a dolly or appliance mover thingy.

:hills::hills::hills:

Wow, I didn't know they were THAT big. I do know the smell would probably blend in, if not cover up remains (and that was just a little guy's bag)! :hills:

 

[kaley]

I don't believe the crime map is anything more than a public service. In the past a crime map of a community would appear in the newspaper, to show residents what the police have been up to, what areas are safer than others... I don't think we need to look to it for clues.
To me it doesn't seem feasible that LE would make that information public before the bodies are even cold, so to speak. It hasn't even gone to court, and disclosure has only recently been delivered.
JMO.

Perhaps but then why not put 3 murders instead of 2?

 

[deugirtni]

Look to the far left of the bottom bar below each post, which has the 'thanks', 'reply', 'reply with quote', etc. on the right side. It's hard to see, but I think it is an excalamation mark within that black triangle.

But I can't see a little black triangle.

 

[deugirtni]

Just another one of those things that is contradictory/doesn't add up, which leads to speculation.

Perhaps but then why not put 3 murders instead of 2?

 

[Wondergirl]

I don't think DG did anything "chemically" to their bodies.

He may have dismembered them, but, I am leaning towards the KISS theory.

Where are they?

 

[deugirtni]

If the guy was seething inside for 7 years and dreaming about exacting his vengeance about his name failing to be included on a patent which apparently failed anyway, and he dreamt of brutalizing the offender, but he takes the bodies with him.. why not wait until you've taken them to a private, secluded location where you aren't going to necessarily run out of time, before performing the butality part. Also, a poster recently mentioned that he seems to be rather particular/neat, as seen by his truck and the Airdrie property; injections would have been so much neater, and I would think perhaps even more satisfying to think that perhaps LE might come up with a blank when trying to determine what happened. IDK either, just wondering.......

Maybe because it would have been too humane and not so scentational. IDK

 

[Tinkerbel1]

Perhaps but then why not put 3 murders instead of 2?

There must not have been any DNA for Nathan at the Liknes house maybe?

 

[Lalalacasbah]

there are some huge hockey duffle bags with wheels -- can hold a lot -- 2 bodies no problem brrrrr -- I hate typing that

Thanks for the info newone, I had no idea hockey bags with wheels existed!

Big hockey bags in the back of pick up driving down the road wouldn't look suspicious either. The suspect might've brought something like that with him quite easily.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Oooooh...Catherine Deneuve! Nice! And that's one whopping bottle of Chanel No. 5!!

And Catherine D in her prime, with awesome 80s makeup lol! I seriously like the 80s make-up look and Chanel perfume never hurt anyone Sorry, off topic again oops!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Haha re the typical hockey bag scent being pretty vicious.. our family has one that we use as a great big duffle bag/suitcase (never used for hockey equipment of course), and I do believe it is actually big enough for our entire family to fit into.. not necessarily big enough for all of the stuff we like to lug with us when we go away though. But still.. I think the bag would be somewhat floppy and not transported very well on a dolly or appliance mover thingy.

I actually thought no dolly with a bag like this, I thought he could easily carry or drag and then heave and swing (not sure the right word) into the truck. Then it's weight lifting and not as awkward, but maybe harder than it sounds.

 

[Tinkerbel1]

And Catherine D in her prime, with awesome 80s makeup lol! I seriously like the 80s make-up look and Chanel perfume never hurt anyone Sorry, off topic again oops!

Exactly! I love the 80's make-up and hair too!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I don't think DG did anything "chemically" to their bodies.

He may have dismembered them, but, I am leaning towards the KISS theory.

Where are they?

Me too...the more I think about it, he's parents could've came home early at *any* time it weather got bad, one of them sick, want to just come home early, etc.

I doubt they'de phone him on a cell to give him notice. He could've been interrupted at any time, there was no guarantee no one would pop by the acreage. IMOO.

I thinks it's possible the victims were there briefly, but not for a long process of anything. But now, if there was an unknown secondary place with privacy is another thought. But too much moving, still think it might be KISS method.

 

[stan laurel]

But still.. I think the bag would be somewhat floppy and not transported very well on a dolly or appliance mover thingy.

cut out a piece of 1/2" plywood, put in bag and bag ceases being unmanageable and floppy. screw into the plywood 4 industrial casters and that bag has now become an easily moved bag when over loaded. sew two belts into it and floppy contents can be more lengthwise for even easier transportation.

 

[stan laurel]

And Catherine D in her prime, with awesome 80s makeup lol! I seriously like the 80s make-up look and Chanel perfume never hurt anyone Sorry, off topic again oops!

She was really good in Polanski's Repulsion. And you do know that she's a boozer and the Chanel 5 bottle is filled with cheap whiskey.

 

[Salem]

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[kaley]

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EVERYONES' opinion is allowed as long as it is within TOS.

Also - please note that rumors from Facebook are not allowed for discussion.

Salem

Then I heard it from a friend.....

 

[LoriMcA]

I'd have to go back & look...WAY back...when we were all first examining the marks on the sidewalk beside the house....It was mentioned IIRC...that among those 'drag marks' ...it looked like little wobbly wheel marks *like an office chair*....As I said I'd have to go back and look...
WELL...take a large hockey bag with wheels *there are HUGE ones for goalies*....I tell ya...you can pack a house in there *not really but tons of stuff*....would explain the 'drag marks' and the wheel marks someone thought they could see....hmm JMOO

 

[LoisLane]

I'd have to go back & look...WAY back...when we were all first examining the marks on the sidewalk beside the house....It was mentioned IIRC...that among those 'drag marks' ...it looked like little wobbly wheel marks *like an office chair*....As I said I'd have to go back and look...
WELL...take a large hockey bag with wheels *there are HUGE ones for goalies*....I tell ya...you can pack a house in there *not really but tons of stuff*....would explain the 'drag marks' and the wheel marks someone thought they could see....hmm JMOO

I personally think it was leaky garbage, if they were moving maybe they had to clean out refrigerators and freezers. I took a pick of my friends driveway pad after the fresh leaky garbage leaked all over her driveway and it was still showing 2 days after.