CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #1

[Missizzy]

I wonder if the media is making more of Ms. Gleave's unconventionality than necessary? I've never seen a description of a person be repeated so many times. I'm glad that the vet is weighing in. Vets often know more about their human patients/clients than most would think. I wonder if she's always had shepherds?


http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/309093--police-finished-with-murder-scene

Police finished with murder scene


"Wednesday’s memorial service for murdered Ancaster woman Audrey Gleave will be unconventional — the way friends say she would have wanted.

“She wouldn’t let anybody close enough to know all sides of her,” said friend LV.

So instead of having a detailed eulogy, a few people will make brief comments, before opening up the service to a reception. That is where Gleave’s friends can share stories with each other...."

and

"....Gleave’s two German Shepherds, Togi and Schatzen, were in a different area of the house than where Gleave’s body was found. They were originally taken to animal control, but have been taken to a kennel where German Shepherds are bred. After being assessed, they will be adopted out.

“They won’t be euthanized,” said Gleave’s veterinarian, DC, who knew her for 30 years and last saw her a couple of days before Christmas. Dogs were very important in Gleave’s life, he said. She would visit the graves of former pets at the Ancaster Pet Cemetery every two or three weeks....."

more at link

 

[Missizzy]

Here's some photos of the Ancaster Pet Cemetery, where Ms. Gleave visited:

http://hamiltonparanormal.com/apc.html

The first page just has photos of the cemetery and directions to it. There are then 11 pages you can click on to see paranormal photos taken there. Not sure what to think.

It does look as if a good deal of care goes into keeping the cemetery looking nice. I wonder how many pets she had buried there.

 

[flipflop]

I wonder if the media is making more of Ms. Gleave's unconventionality than necessary? I've never seen a description of a person be repeated so many times


I wonder too about this Missizzy, after all we have learned that she played golf and bridge regulary a few years ago, she went out and met with her coffee group, she shopped at the always busy Costco, she went to a friends house for the holidays...all of this does not make her the hermit that the media is painting the picture of. She was 73, most that age have aches and pains and only leave the house when necessary, as AG did, but this does not make them a hermit. I also see nothing wrong with AG not having people visit in her home, I have a few friends that always meet you outside when I go visit, one is because her house is a pig sty and the other is a neat freak/germaphob and does not like people to carry germs or dirt into her home...thats just the way they are,
I think the media needs to focus on something else about AG, as this repitition about how she lived is way over done.

 

[LilyMacBloom]

since it's agains websleuths rules to repost from other site I reposted the article. Please read the 'COMMENTS' there is one who seems to know of the man who was arrested.



http://brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2913418

 

[greenthumb]

According to this article, Brantford police charged the homeless person who lived in the abandoned barn with breaching probation and carrying a concealed weapon - a hunting knife. And, it confirms some of the information in the 'comments' section of the Expositor article that LilyMacBloom posted above.

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/309093--friends-remember-audrey-gleave

 

[dotr]

(From LilyMacBloom's link) I think AG may not have encouraged home visits due to her dogs behaviour around visitors.The "eccentric" label may be because of AG visiting a dog cemetery so frequently.
http://brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2913418
"She loved her dogs but I never really trusted them," Vanstone said. "They were always kind of roaming around when I was there and when we sat and talked I didn't dare get up suddenly or make any quick movements."
(From greenthumb's link)http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/309093--friends-remember-audrey-gleave
Dogs were very important in Gleave’s life, he said. She would visit the graves of former pets at the Ancaster Pet Cemetery every two or three weeks.

 

[greenthumb]

Ms Gleave's memorial service is this morning at 11 a.m. and according to the obit in the Expositor, will be podcast from this website -

http://www.beckettglaves.com/

I'm unable to watch it, but wish I could, as a way of paying my respects to this lady... from all the tributes I've read, I think she was a very positive force in the lives of many of her students. And more than one has referred to her in 'motherly' terms... that tells me that she was a very, very special teacher. RIP, Ms. Gleave.

 

[dairydog]

This poor soul was certainly an enigma. I did a little research with regards to her maiden name and it appears that it could be Latvian or Lithuanian. Like other posters, I too am wondering about her mother's disappearance. We don't know if she was born overseas or if her parents came to this country and she was born in Canada. We know nothing of her mother's disappearance and whether it was voluntary or involved foul play. This disappearance may have been a tragic and traumatic episode in AG's life and thus perhaps one reason for her excessively private side. It is possible that whatever happened greatly influenced her behaviour to the point that she was unable to speak about it. We know that Latvia and Lithuania suffered greatly during WW2 and she would have been born just prior to the war. Nevertheless may this poor soul now rest in peace. What a horrific and unspeakable crime. Let's hope for swift justice in this case.

 

[Missizzy]

Another one of the posts at the site LilyMacBloom linked to, is interesting:

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/309093--friends-remember-audrey-gleave

Posted by jessie2327:

"...this barn is a place i used to go until this man chased me with an axe...."

Can I ask why someone would go to an abandoned barn?


Also another comment from Ms. Gleave's vet:

http://www.ancasternews.com/news/article/227090

"....Veterinarian DC [EBM] cared for Gleave’s pets for over 30 years. Just days before her death, Gleave visited Collins’ home to pick up some medications for her two German Shepherd dogs, Togi and Schatzen.

“They were her life, those dogs,” said DC.

DC, who retired as a vet from Mountain Animal Hospital in 1994, is also the founder of the Ancaster Pet Cemetery on Book Road West. Gleave had three or four pets buried at the cemetery and often visited the site to pay her respects.

“She was just an all-around good friend,” said DC. “I never heard her say a bad word about anyone...."



I'm confused, if the vet retired in 1994, how was Ms. Gleave able to pick up her animal medications? Is it permissible in Canada to purchase veterinary meds from a retired vet--at his home? It surely isn't in the states. He cared for her pets for 30 years but he's been retired for 16? Just wondering.

 

[Hazel]

a few snips from video clip:

• on the 01:05 mark : The day before her body was found, police arrested a 50-year-old homeless man nearby on unrelated charges ...
  Police are not saying if he is a suspect or not, and they are advising people in this secluded area to continue to be cautious.
  
  
• on the 01:45 mark : The Hamilton Police Service would like to hear from anyone who had contact with G in the days febore her death.
  
  
• on the 01:55 mark : She had 2 dogs. They were found locked in a room ...

CTV article and VIDEO clip : http://swo.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110105/gleave-memorial-murder-110105/20110105/?hub=SWOHome

 

[Missizzy]

FWIW:

http://www.biblio.com/books/212792828.html

And an article concerning the expansion of the animal cemetery:

http://www.ancasternews.com/news/article/184364

"...Founded by retired Hamilton veterinarian DC, the Ancaster Pet Cemetery has operated for nearly 40 years. Dr. C retired as a veterinarian from Mountain Animal Hospital in 1994.

Mr. C said the cemetery conducts about 50 or 60 burials each year. Over the last four decades more than 2,200 pets have been laid to rest. Mr. C recently transferred ownership of the cemetery to his two sons...."

 

[Missizzy]

The good vet must be quite a well known character. There's also another book about him:

http://www.leonardshoup.com/?page=s...89&CLSN_1813=12942809121813409e2bcfa2d43833d5

"Sow's Ear to a Silk Purse: Anecdotes from the Life of a Veterinarian"

 

[Valleyboy]

Another one of the posts at the site LilyMacBloom linked to, is interesting:

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/309093--friends-remember-audrey-gleave

Posted by jessie2327:

"...this barn is a place i used to go until this man chased me with an axe...."

Can I ask why someone would go to an abandoned barn?


Also another comment from Ms. Gleave's vet:

http://www.ancasternews.com/news/article/227090

"....Veterinarian DC [EBM] cared for Gleave’s pets for over 30 years. Just days before her death, Gleave visited Collins’ home to pick up some medications for her two German Shepherd dogs, Togi and Schatzen.

“They were her life, those dogs,” said DC.

DC, who retired as a vet from Mountain Animal Hospital in 1994, is also the founder of the Ancaster Pet Cemetery on Book Road West. Gleave had three or four pets buried at the cemetery and often visited the site to pay her respects.

“She was just an all-around good friend,” said DC. “I never heard her say a bad word about anyone...."



I'm confused, if the vet retired in 1994, how was Ms. Gleave able to pick up her animal medications? Is it permissible in Canada to purchase veterinary meds from a retired vet--at his home? It surely isn't in the states. He cared for her pets for 30 years but he's been retired for 16? Just wondering.

He may have retired from the hospital but could still have his vet licence
and run a small practice from his home.

 

[Hazel]

A Candlelight Vigil was held Tuesday evening at the Lynden United Church for murder victim, Audrey Gleave, 73

Retired veterinarian Dudley Collins of Ancaster said Gleave was at his house just days before her body was found Dec. 30.

"She was a super quiet girl. Never heard her say anything bad about anybody. She loved her pets."

Collins looked after Gleave's animals for decades and Gleave bought her German shepherds from a kennel owned by Collins's son.

"He's going to make sure they get good homes," Collins said about Gleave's two dogs.

Like others at the church, Collins disputed that Gleave was a recluse.

video and pictures at link : http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2915258

 

[Hazel]

I am a bit confused as to who was the last person to see Audrey alive. I thought it was the friend who brought her soup Monday, Dec. 27.

Do we know when Audrey took her dogs to see the vet?
Caption under a pic of the pet vet, says:

Dudley Collins, the last person the see Audrey Gleave before her death, attended the Lynden United Church vigil in memory of her on Tuesday night.
TAE McINTOSH for the Expositor.
Image 5 of 6

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2915258#

 

[flipflop]

The handyman who made the discovery is in this interview
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Ar...86&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

 

[Missizzy]

I'm confused too. The one article says that Audrey spent Boxing Day (Dec. 26th) at her friend's house and that the friend took soup over to Audrey because she wasn't feeling well on the 27th. I read that she went to Dr. Collins' house to pick up pet meds a "few days before her death.

 

[Missizzy]

Many many people remember Ms. Gleave with fondness:

http://beckettglaves.frontrunnerpro...ondolenceView&viewOpt=dpaneOnly&ItemId=619536

 

[Missizzy]

I don't think that Ms. Gleave "took her dogs to the vet" on the last day she saw DC. I understood that she stopped by the former vet/friend's home to pick up some pet medications. The vet initially said that he saw Ms. Gleave "a few days before Christmas" but it is now being reported that he was the last person to see her alive. We know that she spent Boxing Day at her friend's home and that the friend dropped off soup for her on the 27th because she wasn't feeling well.

Something isn't adding up, IMO.

 

[Missizzy]

This must be where the dogs were taken. DC's two sons have also taken over the ownership of the pet cemetery. Hopefully, the animals will find loving homes.

http://aglensaxonkennels.supersites.ca/germanshepards/

There seems to be another company affiliated with this kennel, Koala Enterprises. Says they offer pet-sitting and other services.