CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #10

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How on earth did I miss this years ago:

One less suspect in Gleave murder mystery - CHCH

One man has been ruled out as a suspect in Audrey Gleave’s murder. He’s the one neighbours say did odd jobs around the retired schoolteacher’s house. He’s also the same person who found the 73 year old on Thursday morning. As Amanda Blitz reports, police now seem to be targeting their...

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He’s the one neighbours say did odd jobs around the retired schoolteacher’s house. He’s also the same person who found the 73 year old on Thursday morning. As Amanda Blitz reports, police now seem to be targeting their investigation at a homeless man who was spotted in the area. (OK, we all knew this part).



There is an all too familiar scenario here. In the last four months, three women have been viciously attacked in their own homes drawing striking similarities.

 

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At this time, I'm still leaning towards it being the same person. Why? It's someone who is capable of getting away with three vicious assaults on women and NOT getting caught. Unless he committed suicide right after Audrey's murder. JMO

Have LE investigated all male suicides in the area around that timeframe? Or, is he just one lucky guy?

 

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One phrase here caught my attention:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/nurse-s-rare-murder-pored-over-at-summit-1.890183

"Anybody who enters somebody's house where you should be safe and kills you, in my view is cold-blooded," Pritchard said.

Audrey = garage and Sonia = house.

 

[2soccermom]

And Shelley Loder was attacked in her photography studio on her home property. 3 women all in fairly close temporal and geographical proximity. Shelley survived her attack, but her injuries by all accounts were severe.
If DNA linked these crimes, I expect LE would be compelled to tell us (even as I'm sure they have holdback info of other kinds). But still I have this persistent thought that these cases are connected.....

All these years later, I may be misremembering, but I have in my mind that Shelley's husband was a nurse (or training to be one -?); I barely recall wondering on threads and in my own mind if there may have been some nursing connection between Shelley and Sonia's cases (like a disgruntled patient-type scenario; what if Glenn rather than Shelley was the target for harm, etc.). Were Shelley and Glenn acquainted in any way with Sonia?
But, again, I have forgotten many of the old details and this could be one of them. I also often believe Audrey's case is connected to Sonia's and Shelley's, so the nursing question doesn't really seem to apply there......
IS there anything more substantive that connects these 3 women/cases together?
It's devestating that none of these 3 is solved.
Bumping for justice for Audrey -- and for Shelley and Sonia also.

 

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@2soccermom Yes, Shelley's husband was studying to be a nurse somewhere in Mississauga.

 

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I've wondered for all of these years if the Loder's were friends with/acquaintances of Sonia. But now I'm thinking NO because that leaves Audrey out of the picture. I don't believe in coincidences and these three women being brutally attacked/murdered in the space of a few months in Southern Ontario is farfetched. To think that there are three individuals who have gotten away with these crimes, apparently unscathed and never found is beyond belief. JMO

 

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Have we ever had a full description of Shelley's crime scene? I'm wondering how bloody it might have been given that the attack was deemed "brutal" as Audrey's and Sonia's were.

We have seen photos of just how much blood was spilled in Sonia's home and surroundings. We also were told that Audrey's crime scene was one of the worst a seasoned police officer had ever seen.

I'm wondering if we actually do have the full picture of Audrey's crime scene. Could it be worse than we've been led to believe? And Shelley's as well.

Adding Shelley's thread from WS:

CANADA Thread 'Canada - Shelley Loder, 44, Mono, 7 Dec 2010'

Dec 20, 2010

12-15-2010, 09:53 AM
An update on Shelley's condition was posted Monday night on her FB page. As per the TOS I cannot copy and paste the post here. Apparently she had a medical procedure done (no mention of when) to decrease the pressure on her brain, and taken out of induced coma. By the time of that post, she hadn't woken up

No further updates since then; everyone is praying for her speedy and full recovery.

Prayers for Shelley and her family.

GOOD NEWS!!
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What connects these three women:
- Southern Ontario
- brutal attacks
- on home property
- no forced entry ( do we know this of Shelley's attack?)
- nothing stolen
- cars involved or near the victim (I'm assuming Shelley had a car as she lived way out in Mono)
- death was intended (Shelley's attacker was stopped by someone arriving home)
- easy to get way from the scene on highways to his home town
- there's a Mark's Work Warehouse in every town in Ontario
- two attacks in the month of December 2010
- NO ONE HAS BEEN CAUGHT

 

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More similarities:
- he knew they would be at home, alone
- he must have known their daily routines
- LE is tight-lipped

 

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Dear Audrey, I am still here and I continue to look for justice in your case. We will not give up. Your killer will slip up one way or another.

 

[dotr]

If a perp is not identified, does this mean the 2010 warning is still valid? speculation, imo.
December 31, 2010

Police warn public after ‘horrific’ killing of woman, 73

— Hamilton police are cautioning Lynden-area residents to be vigilant of anything unusual in their community after a retired teacher was found murdered in her home.

www.guelphmercury.com

''HAMILTON — Hamilton police are cautioning Lynden-area residents to be vigilant of anything unusual in their community after a retired teacher was found murdered in her home.
Audrey Gleave, 73, was found by a friend in her home at 3401 Indian Trail Thursday morning at about 11 a.m. Staff Sergeant Steve Hrab said Gleave “was the obvious victim of a homicide” and also said the motive behind her killing may include “a sexual component.”
“This crime is particularly vicious,” Hrab said. “In the last 10 years, I can’t think of one that’s more horrific.”
Jan. 1, 2011

Hamilton police warn public after ‘horrific’ killing of woman

A veteran homicide detective described the murder of Audrey Gleave as horrendous, vicious and savage.

www.thestar.com

 

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I'm trying to think of a way to get this case put out there in the open again. Such as a TV News add-on near the date of her murder. Come hell or high water, I'll think of something.

Copied from the post above:

“This crime is particularly vicious,” Hrab said. “In the last 10 years, I can’t think of one that’s more horrific.”
Jan. 1, 2011

 

[Catmommy]

The Oxygen TV series "Cold Justice" comes to mind, but I think they have to have cooperation, if not an invitation, by Law Enforcement. We're still trying, Audrey. You are not and will never be forgotten.

 

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Do we even know if LE are still thinking of this case? When was the last time this case was spoken of in public by LE or others?

 

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I'm going to contact ( just short of harass ) these TV shows. If anyone else wants to contact them as well, please do:

• Crime Beat: A true crime documentary series that delves into Canada's most infamous criminal cases, exploring how they were solved or remain unsolved.
• Crime Beat: Most Wanted: A spin-off series that tracks Canada's most wanted criminals and the detectives dedicated to bringing them to justice.