CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[Bobbi Pearl]

This is the entire summary:

(m) Allan CARUK, heating and air conditioning mechanic.
On January 17th, 2018 I reviewed a Statement Summary, for the statement of Allan CARUK, which he provided to DC WHALLEY and DC DE OLIVERIA on January 2nd, 2018. I have summarized the statement as follows:
i. Allan has been a Heating and Air conditioning Mechanic for the past 29 years.
ii. Allan receives service calls and on Friday December 15th he received a service
call through his tablet to attend 50 Old Colony Road, a house he has been taking
care of for approximately 20 years.
iii. Arrangements were made for a mechanic to attend 4 times a year. There are 4
HVAC systems in the house and he has not serviced the pool side of the house
for the last 10 years.
iv. On that day Allan arrived at 8:30 AM which was the same time the housekeeper
and the personal trainer arrived. When Allan left the house at 9:20 AM the
trainer was already gone and Allan thought that this was unusual because
Honey SHERMAN always does over an hour exercise program.
v. Allan walked through the kitchen, down the main stairs, to the basement and
went into the furnace room.(REDACTED)
vi. (REDACTED)
vii. (REDACTED)
viii. The house had a heated driveway an only half uncovered. Allan walked up the
middle of the driveway and there were footprints but they looked old and
frozen.

Big thanks! Too bad we have no clue what questions were asked, we have a summary transcript from a third person reading interview notes of other detectives. Makes me wonder did LE have a list of specific questions they asked every person they spoke to while investigating?

Gotta note: Jan 2nd, I am blown away that detectives took so long to interview someone who was onsite the Sherman residence and the only known person to be in the basement the day they were found and to boot he was gone before police arrived.

 

[FromGermany1]

To be honest I cannot figure out what door he came in? The statement that he “walked through the kitchen, down the main stairs” don’t describe enough for me. If he came in with the trainer and housekeeper he would be right at what I would consider the main stairs, no need to go to kitchen and then back to stairs?

The spiral staircase down to the basement, I would think?

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

The spiral staircase down to the basement, I would think?

Is the spiral staircase the main staircase? Could be yes, we are not sure who has declared “main” as a descriptive and all encompassing knowledge as that is true to everyone. This is a service person verbiage - was the spiral stairs in the aft of the home, the main stairs for hired help? If the service person had any tools etc with him would using a spiral staircase be safe to use, I think the wide straight stairwell would be easier to navigate with your hands full.

The maintenance man did not say he saw gloves on the floor or papers, unless those are the redacted comments, if so why redact them? This rules out the spiral staircase to me as the set he used.

One may think if you used a spiral staircase that you would add that detail, not use the word main to describe the set of stairs chosen to use?

 

[dotr]

An ‘urban explorer’ entered Barry and Honey Sherman’s home before demolition and saw papers that ‘looked like evidence’

One Saturday afternoon in May of 2019, when nobody was looking, a man slipped under the garage door of the late Barry and Honey Sherman’s home.

www.toronto.com

• Jul 27, 2023

''There was nothing to see in the garage so he left through a door that opened onto a spiral staircase heading up to the first and second floor. It’s one of two staircases it is believed the attacker or attackers used to take Honey Sherman (who was likely surprised on the first floor by an assailant) down to the basement.''

 

[ldlager]

Is the spiral staircase the main staircase? Could be yes, we are not sure who has declared “main” as a descriptive and all encompassing knowledge as that is true to everyone. This is a service person verbiage - was the spiral stairs in the aft of the home, the main stairs for hired help? If the service person had any tools etc with him would using a spiral staircase be safe to use, I think the wide straight stairwell would be easier to navigate with your hands full.

The maintenance man did not say he saw gloves on the floor or papers, unless those are the redacted comments, if so why redact them? This rules out the spiral staircase to me as the set he used.

One may think if you used a spiral staircase that you would add that detail, not use the word main to describe the set of stairs chosen to use?

You would have thought it would have been much easier for the repairman to just drive down the driveway and enter the basement through the garage, instead of hauling his tools through the kitchen and down the stairs. I wonder if he always went through the house? I can’t believe that HS would have preferred that.

 

[wibbleflea]

[…] The maintenance man did not say he saw gloves on the floor or papers, unless those are the redacted comments, if so why redact them?

In the podcast (link to the transcript in my previous message), he does say this:

“As soon as I walked downstairs, just something wasn't ... It didn't ... I'd been there for years and years. And she was always concerned about lights and doors and all that being kept closed and lights and doors were wide open and I just thought something was off.”

 

[wibbleflea]

In the podcast (link to the transcript in my previous message), he does say this:

“As soon as I walked downstairs, just something wasn't ... It didn't ... I'd been there for years and years. And she was always concerned about lights and doors and all that being kept closed and lights and doors were wide open and I just thought something was off.”

Also, later in the podcast, his reaction when his boss told him that the Shermans were found deceased later that day:

“Like I said, it just didn't feel right from the second I walked in the door. So I was like, wow, this ... pretty surprised.”

He mentions that weeks passed before the police even contacted him.

 

[dotr]

Also, later in the podcast, his reaction when his boss told him that the Shermans were found deceased later that day:

“Like I said, it just didn't feel right from the second I walked in the door. So I was like, wow, this ... pretty surprised.”

He mentions that weeks passed before the police even contacted him.

rbbm

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/the-no-good-terribly-kind-wonderful-lives-and-tragic-deaths-of-barry-and-honey-sherman-ep-1-transcript-1.6793318

KATHLEEN GOLDHAR: And how would you describe her?

ANONYMOUS: Interesting character.

KATHLEEN GOLDHAR: What does that mean?

ANONYMOUS: Well, she was demanding, and I knew I had to have my ducks in order when I talked to her. So she'd call me out if she didn't think something was right. Usually she yells down the stairs to me and screamed something at me. And then I just continue on my day.''

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

In the podcast (link to the transcript in my previous message), he does say this:

“As soon as I walked downstairs, just something wasn't ... It didn't ... I'd been there for years and years. And she was always concerned about lights and doors and all that being kept closed and lights and doors were wide open and I just thought something was off.”

I think all doors open and lights on is for the showings, not how HS liked the home to be. But again he is very observant, his interview must have a lot more info.

This also confuses me as most reports we have heard from the media never said lights were on. The pool room was dark all but the pool glowing, I wonder what lights were on, I think doors could be all open from previous showings.

IMO sadly the maintenance man could have read media reports and learned news of the investigation before he was interviewed 2 weeks later. It could easily play with his memory and statements.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

You would have thought it would have been much easier for the repairman to just drive down the driveway and enter the basement through the garage, instead of hauling his tools through the kitchen and down the stairs. I wonder if he always went through the house? I can’t believe that HS would have preferred that.

He would need a garage door opener

 

[ldlager]

He would need a garage door opener

Why not just have the repair person ring the doorbell when they arrive and have the homeowner open the garage door? I do this at my home all the time.

 

[acutename]

Big thanks! Too bad we have no clue what questions were asked, we have a summary transcript from a third person reading interview notes of other detectives. Makes me wonder did LE have a list of specific questions they asked every person they spoke to while investigating?

Gotta note: Jan 2nd, I am blown away that detectives took so long to interview someone who was onsite the Sherman residence and the only known person to be in the basement the day they were found and to boot he was gone before police arrived.

he goes to the house 4x a year but he knows HS's exercise schedule? maybe...

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Why not just have the repair person ring the doorbell when they arrive and have the homeowner open the garage door? I do this at my home all the time.

I work in the service industry and I’m in and out of peoples’ homes one after the other. I prefer grabbing a parking spot that allows a quick getaway.

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

He would need a garage door opener

Or a code to the garage door, it had a powered opener it could have a pad outside.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

January 21st appears to be the next court date. Ann B posted this elsewhere. I wish she posted here.

 

[newclues]

ii. Allan receives service calls and on Friday December 15th he received a service
call through his tablet to attend 50 Old Colony Road, a house he has been taking
care of for approximately 20 years.

Who made a service call to him on that day? It wasn't BS and HS since they were already dead in the pool room.
Also, wasn't the HVAC system the problem for which BS won a large settlement from the house builders originally several years earlier? Floor plans of the house's basement would help to determine from where access to the furnace room was possible from.

 

[FromGermany1]

ii. Allan receives service calls and on Friday December 15th he received a service
call through his tablet to attend 50 Old Colony Road, a house he has been taking
care of for approximately 20 years.

Who made a service call to him on that day? It wasn't BS and HS since they were already dead in the pool room.
Also, wasn't the HVAC system the problem for which BS won a large settlement from the house builders originally several years earlier? Floor plans of the house's basement would help to determine from where access to the furnace room was possible from.

bbm
Very interesting! Did the caller hope, the mechanic would find the victims?

 

[fadedglitter]

ii. Allan receives service calls and on Friday December 15th he received a service
call through his tablet to attend 50 Old Colony Road, a house he has been taking
care of for approximately 20 years.

Who made a service call to him on that day? It wasn't BS and HS since they were already dead in the pool room.
Also, wasn't the HVAC system the problem for which BS won a large settlement from the house builders originally several years earlier? Floor plans of the house's basement would help to determine from where access to the furnace room was possible from.

Speculation only: could be a regular automated alert for an appointment set up for the 15th day of every fourth month.

 

[FromGermany1]

Speculation only: could be a regular automated alert for an appointment set up for the 15th day of every fourth month.

Wouldn't that be an email then?

 

[ldlager]

Speculation only: could be a regular automated alert for an appointment set up for the 15th day of every fourth month.

Or the company dispatcher sent a message with appointments scheduled for him for the day. That’s what happens with my furnace repair person. It says that he receives “service call” on his tablet that may not mean a telephone call.