CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[Andreee]

I have doubts also.

As a Canadian who follows this case, IMO it is discouraging to see how little progress is being made on this case, at least from what we in the public have seen. Behind the scenes, sure would like to know what is being done these days by investigators to further the case, if anything substantial!

 

[Deleted member 364183]

As a Canadian who follows this case, IMO it is discouraging to see how little progress is being made on this case, at least from what we in the public have seen. Behind the scenes, sure would like to know what is being done these days by investigators to further the case, if anything substantial!

I mean 35 million dollars is a massive amount of reward money.

 

[fadedglitter]

Canadian police are typically tight-lipped during an investigation. You can go into any courthouse and watch as family members hear details from the police for the very first time as the Crown presents evidence to the judge or jury.

They provide updates when they think it will help the investigation, like their call for the “night walker” to come forward if he had a good reason for walking up to the Sherman house before the murders and walking away afterwards. That came only after they felt they’d exhausted their efforts to identify him without public help.

I wouldn’t assume the investigation isn’t progressing.

 

[WINDSOR]

For all of you who lack patience and perseverance, there have been many cases that have taken decades to bring the criminals to justice. [modsnip]

 

[MerlinFalcon]

I just saw this on Facebook. Tomorrow night in East York.

 

[fadedglitter]

I’m nowhere near Toronto or I’d definitely attend. Any locals here? I’d be very interested in any new details about the crime scene, less interested in Donovan’s theories about who killed them and ideas about which actions constitute police mistakes.

 

[WINDSOR]

I just saw this on Facebook. Tomorrow night in East York.


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Did anybody attend this event? Anything new presented? Did Kevin Donovan comment on the current status of the case?

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Did anybody attend this event? Anything new presented? Did Kevin Donovan comment on the current status of the case?

I didn’t go. Haven’t seen anything on FB.

 

[Kerry Winter]

I didn’t go. Haven’t seen anything on FB.

No milk left in the cow.

 

[dotr]

June 11, 2025

Toronto police turn to AI tool to investigate the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman

The Toronto police have turned to an off-the-shelf program with AI capabilities to try and solve the double murder of billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman.

www.thestar.com

''More than seven years into the investigation, with dozens of people still considered “persons of interest,” the lone detective working the case says he got the idea last month after attending a seminar at police headquarters by the Toronto police intelligence unit.
While artificial intelligence is routinely used these days by police investigators in some jurisdictions, this is the first time it has been applied as an investigative tool in the Sherman case. ''

 

[ldlager]

June 11, 2025

Toronto police turn to AI tool to investigate the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman

The Toronto police have turned to an off-the-shelf program with AI capabilities to try and solve the double murder of billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman.

www.thestar.com

''More than seven years into the investigation, with dozens of people still considered “persons of interest,” the lone detective working the case says he got the idea last month after attending a seminar at police headquarters by the Toronto police intelligence unit.
While artificial intelligence is routinely used these days by police investigators in some jurisdictions, this is the first time it has been applied as an investigative tool in the Sherman case. ''

Thanks Dotr.
I really don’t know what to say after reading this…..

 

[fadedglitter]

I can’t believe this is the first time they’ve applied AI tools to the mass of data. It seems like an obvious approach.

 

[ldlager]

I can’t believe this is the first time they’ve applied AI tools to the mass of data. It seems like an obvious approach.

And what use is using AI tools when you dont get around to looking at the results?

 

[dotr]

2024 Fwiw..

Artificial Intelligence Use in Criminal Investigations Gains Traction

Law enforcement is ramping up use of artificial intelligence to help solve crimes, but experts warn the technology is still in its infancy and should only be used to augment traditional investigative methods.

www.aetv.com

''In the United Kingdom, police departments are testing out an artificial intelligence (AI) tool to analyze evidence in cold cases—including the unsolved stabbing murder of a 30-year-old man in 1994—in the hopes of catching any missed clues. The software can sift through video footage, financial transactions, social media, emails and other documents simultaneously. Authorities claim the tool was able to review evidentiary material in 27 cases in just 30 hours.''

 

[FPoulet]

If this is where the investigation is at — an AI review of all random evidence — I’d say I’m more pessimistic than I’ve ever been about the state of this investigation. This suggests they do not have a working theory of the case.

 

[ldlager]

If this is where the investigation is at — an AI review of all random evidence — I’d say I’m more pessimistic than I’ve ever been about the state of this investigation. This suggests they do not have a working theory of the case.

Plus LE says there are still dozens of POI’s. And only one suspect, who they cannot identify. Yikes.

 

[Alice Ramnit]

Hard to believe that Yim hasn't even READ the report yet! He appears to be in completely over his head!

 

[Snoop Sister]

If this is where the investigation is at — an AI review of all random evidence — I’d say I’m more pessimistic than I’ve ever been about the state of this investigation. This suggests they do not have a working theory of the case.

Agreed. Smh

 

[WINDSOR]

For me, this was the most significant statement made by Detective Yim.

To maintain the existing sealing orders, Yim provided Justice David Porter of the Ontario Court of Justice with his reasoning. First, he is concerned that revealing the identities of “persons of interest” (one rung below a “suspect” in police jargon) would alert those individuals that the police were on to them. Yim has repeatedly said that Toronto police have not cleared anyone in the case, so anyone who was a person of interest at the start — investigative sources say there are “dozens” — is still a person of interest.

Some people may have believed that certain individuals, because they have not been charged, had been cleared. Now we know nobody has been cleared. To me that is most interesting.

Secondly;
Yim said he is also hoping to get information from “entities” in three countries outside of Canada. Yim would not identify the countries or describe the type of information. He said only one “entity” has responded, but he has not received any information.

This to me is very concerning for a case seven years old. The TPS has contacted 'entities' in three countries. We do not know how many entities could be involved, maybe four in each country, maybe more. However "only one entity has responded". To me this is totally unacceptable that the TPS, who felt it was important to ask for assistance from foreign entities years ago, one can assume, now stands passively by when the lead detective has "not received any information".

The leadership at the TPS has told Yim to spend less time on the case. If I were the head of the TPS, and I was aware that 'entities' were not responding, to me it would make sense for more police effort to get the answers to the requests from entities that were made years ago. If those entities refuse to cooperate, they should not be shielded from media.

Who at the TPS is 'Driving the Bus' obviously it is not Detective Yim.

 

[Ssschu]

This is infuriating! It seems like they're only doing the bare minimum so they can keep the records sealed. It is clear to me that TPS has no interest in solving this. The question is why?? And why isn't the Sherman family raising h*ll about it? I firmly believe this would have been completely swept under the rug if it weren't for Kevin Donovan.