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CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24
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''But for big-ticket items, she told her close friends she had to ask Barry.
Murdered billionaire Barry Sherman planned to give away or invest much of his fortune, sources say
In the year before he was murdered, Barry Sherman was working on plans to give large amounts of money to charity and his wife, Honey, who was also killed, as well as expand his company Apotex, people close to the late couple say.www.thestar.com
That was all about to change, according to people close to Barry and Honey. Barry was contemplating making a major gift to Honey that she could spend as she pleased.
The amount was to be between $100 million and $500 million, according to friends who say they heard this from Honey. One use for the funds, friends say, would be for the numerous real-estate ventures Honey had on the go with her sister Mary Shechtman, who was also her closest friend and who acted as a sort of consultant to Honey on real-estate issues.''
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If we are seriously considering that a planned gift to Mary via Honey was the motive for the murders, why cut out the middleman? Why not just murder Mary?
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I think it was there were a multitude of motives, depending on which potential POI we might be thinking of.
I think JS would have been furious with the thought that Honey was about to possibly receive up to $500 million and part of it might go to Mary. Especially as he was being asked to pay Barry back the money he borrowed.
^^ just one example, and I think there were additional motives if you focus on JS. My opinion only.
The building of the new home and Honey being gifted money (really, it was hers as well, imo), may have upset anyone who was being cut off financially at that time.
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This is a small detail—
Early on, Detective Yim said there were people who were not willing to speak to the police about the case.
(From page 247 of my version of KD’s eBook).
In one of KD’s last articles, he mentioned the SUVs at #46 Old Colony on the night of the murders. He said he reached out to the former owners, but they didn’t respond. He believes they were in Florida at the time of the murders and their home in Toronto was unoccupied.
That rang a bell. I checked the section about the neighbourhood police canvass in one ITO. I was looking to see if #46 was mentioned.
(From police affidavit #7).
It’s about 19 spaces between the purple lines. ‘46 Old Colony Road.’ fits. (‘- - Forest Heights Blvd’ —the street that backs onto Old Colony doesn’t fit, neither do a few other relevant streets that I checked).
The household is mentioned in a warrant for cell transmission and tracking data for several phone numbers.
Early on, Detective Yim said there were people who were not willing to speak to the police about the case.
(From page 247 of my version of KD’s eBook).
In one of KD’s last articles, he mentioned the SUVs at #46 Old Colony on the night of the murders. He said he reached out to the former owners, but they didn’t respond. He believes they were in Florida at the time of the murders and their home in Toronto was unoccupied.
That rang a bell. I checked the section about the neighbourhood police canvass in one ITO. I was looking to see if #46 was mentioned.
(From police affidavit #7).
It’s about 19 spaces between the purple lines. ‘46 Old Colony Road.’ fits. (‘- - Forest Heights Blvd’ —the street that backs onto Old Colony doesn’t fit, neither do a few other relevant streets that I checked).
The household is mentioned in a warrant for cell transmission and tracking data for several phone numbers.
Any idea who owned 46 Old Colony at the time? Was it owner occupied?
It sold 2 years after the murders.
Date
Sold (MLS) (Sold)
TREB #C4618029
$4,350,000
Price
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Date
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TREB #C4618029
$4,695,000
Price
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TREB #C4476070
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Price
Aug 1, 2019
Date
Price Changed
TREB #C4476070
$4,950,000
Price
Jun 6, 2019
Date
Listed (Active)
TREB #C4476070
$5,188,000
Price
It sold 2 years after the murders.
Sale history for 46 Old Colony Rd
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TREB #C4618029
$4,350,000
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TREB #C4618029
$4,695,000
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TREB #C4476070
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$4,950,000
Price
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$5,188,000
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Is that the home where the camera across the street was pointing to part of the driveway?
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It’s the home next door to the Shermans’, incidentally caught on a camera from across the street. Donovan has video from that camera showing four people in two vehicles on the property between 6:17 and 7:09pm on the night of the murders. The video ends after one of those vehicles drives away at 7:09pm.
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www.thestar.com
''A grainy security video seized by police in the early days of the Barry and Honey Sherman investigation shows “suspicious activity” in the driveway beside the Sherman home just before the billionaire couple was murdered.
Two SUVs pull into the driveway, four individuals get out, they move around the neighbour’s property for at least an hour. At one point, one of the mysterious figures can be seen running from one part of the property to another. At times, due to the coverage area of the video cameras, they move out of the frame, then reappear.''
Video reveals ‘suspicious activity’ beside Barry and Honey Sherman’s home just before billionaires’ 2017 murders
Two SUVs pull into the next-door neighbours’ driveway. Four people get out and are seen moving around for at least an hour. Soon after, Barry and Honey Sherman are murdered.
Two SUVs pull into the driveway, four individuals get out, they move around the neighbour’s property for at least an hour. At one point, one of the mysterious figures can be seen running from one part of the property to another. At times, due to the coverage area of the video cameras, they move out of the frame, then reappear.''
June 2025
''A grainy security video seized by police in the early days of the Barry and Honey Sherman investigation shows “suspicious activity” in the driveway beside the Sherman home just before the billionaire couple was murdered.Video reveals ‘suspicious activity’ beside Barry and Honey Sherman’s home just before billionaires’ 2017 murders
Two SUVs pull into the next-door neighbours’ driveway. Four people get out and are seen moving around for at least an hour. Soon after, Barry and Honey Sherman are murdered.
Two SUVs pull into the driveway, four individuals get out, they move around the neighbour’s property for at least an hour. At one point, one of the mysterious figures can be seen running from one part of the property to another. At times, due to the coverage area of the video cameras, they move out of the frame, then reappear.''
Who is he quoting when he calls it suspicious?
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An “investigative source familiar with the video”. Nobody in a position to know. Just a person who provided a quote anonymously.
He also considers the video “chilling”. Presumably he would say the same about any other video showing the street that evening. Based only on his description, it strikes me as neither suspicious nor chilling.
Nobody yet, has posted anything about owners/residents of 46 Old Colony at the time of the murders.
I also find the video recorded appearance, of two SUVs with several occupants at 46 Old Colony most unusual and a cause for further investigation.
If the TPS has fully investigated this activity and concluded it has nothing to do with the Sherman's demise, they should at least say so. If only to prevent speculation and conspiracy theories.
Her is an excerpt from the Toronto Star:
Two SUVs pull into the next-door neighbours’ driveway. Four people get out and are seen moving around for at least an hour. Soon after, Barry and Honey Sherman are murdered.
A grainy security video seized by police in the early days of the Barry and Honey Sherman investigation shows “suspicious activity” in the driveway beside the Sherman home just before the billionaire couple was murdered.
Two SUVs pull into the driveway, four individuals get out, they move around the neighbour’s property for at least an hour. At one point, one of the mysterious figures can be seen running from one part of the property to another. At times, due to the coverage area of the video cameras, they move out of the frame, then reappear.
Toronto police have refused to comment on the significance of the video, portions of which the Star recently viewed. The Star asked if they had identified the occupants of the vehicle; if they are suspects or persons of interest in the investigation, or if the SUV occupants had been interviewed to see if they had any information that would help with the murder investigation. Spokesperson Stephanie Sayer did not respond to any of the Star’s specific questions.
“This is an active and ongoing investigation,” Stephanie Sayer said in an emailed statement. “While we can’t share specific details at this time, TPS remains fully committed to resolving this case.”
Barry was the founder of Apotex, a generic pharmaceutical company. His wife, Honey, was like Barry, a philanthropist. Together, they gave away hundreds of millions of dollars to charity over their lifetime. The couple was murdered on the evening of Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2017. Their bodies — posed in a seated position on the deck of their basement swimming pool — were not discovered until Friday morning, two days after they died. Toronto Police have said both Honey and Barry were victims of a “targeted” homicide.
The case has stymied the Toronto Police for more than seven years. Toronto police say they have multiple “persons of interest” and appear no closer to laying charges as each year passes.
This story details what is on the security video, which an investigative source familiar with the video described to the Star as “suspicious activity.”
The Star does not have a copy of the video, but a reporter has taken detailed notes of what’s seen in the footage. This story is based on those notes.
First, here’s an explainer to understand the street geography referenced in this story:
The Shermans lived on the north side of Old Colony Road, in the Bayview Ave and Highway 401 area of Toronto. Old Colony Road runs east off Bayview. Few homeowners on this section of the street had security cameras in 2017. The Shermans had no cameras. Barry was dead set against them or any type of security. Just the week before the murders, at dinner before attending a Toronto Maple Leaf hockey game, a friend suggested Barry get a security system and a bodyguard/driver. Barry replied it was a waste of time, and told the friend: “If they are going to get you they are going to get you.”
But a house on the south side of Old Colony did have two video cameras. That house is across from and slightly west of the Sherman home. Those cameras were pointed at the homeowner’s own driveway and lawn, but they also picked up a sliver of the west side of the Sherman property, 50 Old Colony Rd. The cameras also pick up a full view of the next-door neighbours’ house to the west.
The neighbours’ security cameras
The approximate location of the two security cameras that captured the ‘suspicious activity’ of four people the night of the Shermans’ murders.
The timeline of the billionaire murders
On the Wednesday they were murdered, Honey rendezvoused with Barry for a 5 p.m. meeting at Apotex after an afternoon of shopping. It was the second day of Hanukkah and Honey was purchasing gifts for grandchildren. Barry had been at his office all day. The late afternoon meeting in a small Apotex boardroom was to discuss building plans for a $30 million mansion in Forest Hill, the Toronto neighbourhood where Barry grew up and where their daughter Alexandra, her husband and two grandchildren lived. Barry never wanted to move but Honey had her heart set on the plan. The Shermans had listed the Old Colony Rd. home at $6.9 million two weeks earlier; they had an offer for $1 million below asking, which Barry thought was “ridiculous.”
Barry was a workaholic, normally staying at his office until 10 or 11 p.m. The Shermans’ home life wasn’t great, and they’d recently had an argument by email. But at the Wednesday meeting at Apotex, Barry mentioned that he had to go home early that night. (The builder told police this but said he could not recall Barry’s reason.)
At 6:15 p.m., the meeting with the builders ended. Honey walked out of Apotex, got into her Lexus SUV, and drove off. The builders left at the same time. Barry stayed at work for a bit. He was a well-known micromanager and though his role was now chairman, he was still the owner and kept a close watch on his multibillion-dollar company. His emails that evening reveal he was dealing with issues in England with a pharmaceutical regulator, and problems with one of Apotex’s plants in India.
After leaving Apotex, Honey drove to Bayview Village mall, did some shopping and arrived home at approximately 8 p.m. (police will not say exactly when she arrived home).
The portion of the video seem by the Star shows activity on Old Colony Road and at the neighbour’s house beginning almost exactly the time Honey left Apotex — 6:15 p.m. It’s dark out and Old Colony is not well-lit, so the video is grainy. It’s nevertheless chilling, given what is about to happen.
Like many of the houses in the area, including the Shermans’, the next-door neighbours to the west had a crescent-shaped driveway with two entrances, one on each side of the property.
In the video, the lights inside the neighbours’ home are off; a single bulb over the garage on the east side of the home is on.
At 6:17 p.m., a white SUV comes into view, approaching from the east. The SUV — let’s call it “Vehicle A” — passes the Sherman home, then slows and turns into the neighbours’ driveway. Vehicle A drives around the crescent and passes the front door of the house before it comes to a stop on the west side of the property, facing west. Vehicle A’s lights then go off.
Thirty seconds later, a second SUV — “Vehicle B” — pulls into the same driveway entrance as the first. This SUV appears to be light-coloured, but not white. It parks on the east part of the house, facing north, just in front of the home’s garage, which is adjacent to the Sherman property.
Soon, four people get out of the parked vehicles. First, Person 1 gets out of Vehicle A and walks towards the neighbours’ front door. At the same time, Person 2 exits Vehicle B and also walks towards the entrance, appearing to meet Person 1 returning from the door.
Twenty-five seconds later, Person 3 gets out of Vehicle B and again moves toward the front door; a few seconds later, Person 4 also gets out of Vehicle B and runs across the driveway towards the entrance.
Due to trees and bushes that obscure the security camera’s view of the property, it’s impossible to tell if anyone enters the front door. No lights go on inside the house.
The activity — people going back and forth between cars and the door — continues for two minutes, followed by no movement for about 30 minutes.
At 6:58 p.m., a person walks from the front door to Vehicle A, then back to the front entrance, back to Vehicle A, back to the house, and finally back to Vehicle A.
At 7:05 p.m., a person walks from the front of the house to Vehicle B. The lights go on in Vehicle B and the car pulls out of the driveway. It heads west onto Old Colony Road at 7:09 p.m.
The video seen by the Star viewed ends there and the Star has been unable to obtain a video record of what comes next. The video viewed by the Star does not show the departure of Vehicle A, nor does it show Honey or Barry’s arrival home. As the Star has reported, Honey was at Bayview Village Mall after leaving Apotex, and to get home she most likely drove south on Bayview before turning onto Old Colony Road — which means she would approach her home from the west, passing in front of her neighbours’ home. It’s likely that the next section of the security video shows Honey coming home and records her exact time of arrival.
I also find the video recorded appearance, of two SUVs with several occupants at 46 Old Colony most unusual and a cause for further investigation.
If the TPS has fully investigated this activity and concluded it has nothing to do with the Sherman's demise, they should at least say so. If only to prevent speculation and conspiracy theories.
Her is an excerpt from the Toronto Star:
Two SUVs pull into the next-door neighbours’ driveway. Four people get out and are seen moving around for at least an hour. Soon after, Barry and Honey Sherman are murdered.
A grainy security video seized by police in the early days of the Barry and Honey Sherman investigation shows “suspicious activity” in the driveway beside the Sherman home just before the billionaire couple was murdered.
Two SUVs pull into the driveway, four individuals get out, they move around the neighbour’s property for at least an hour. At one point, one of the mysterious figures can be seen running from one part of the property to another. At times, due to the coverage area of the video cameras, they move out of the frame, then reappear.
Toronto police have refused to comment on the significance of the video, portions of which the Star recently viewed. The Star asked if they had identified the occupants of the vehicle; if they are suspects or persons of interest in the investigation, or if the SUV occupants had been interviewed to see if they had any information that would help with the murder investigation. Spokesperson Stephanie Sayer did not respond to any of the Star’s specific questions.
“This is an active and ongoing investigation,” Stephanie Sayer said in an emailed statement. “While we can’t share specific details at this time, TPS remains fully committed to resolving this case.”
Barry was the founder of Apotex, a generic pharmaceutical company. His wife, Honey, was like Barry, a philanthropist. Together, they gave away hundreds of millions of dollars to charity over their lifetime. The couple was murdered on the evening of Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2017. Their bodies — posed in a seated position on the deck of their basement swimming pool — were not discovered until Friday morning, two days after they died. Toronto Police have said both Honey and Barry were victims of a “targeted” homicide.
The case has stymied the Toronto Police for more than seven years. Toronto police say they have multiple “persons of interest” and appear no closer to laying charges as each year passes.
This story details what is on the security video, which an investigative source familiar with the video described to the Star as “suspicious activity.”
The Star does not have a copy of the video, but a reporter has taken detailed notes of what’s seen in the footage. This story is based on those notes.
First, here’s an explainer to understand the street geography referenced in this story:
The Shermans lived on the north side of Old Colony Road, in the Bayview Ave and Highway 401 area of Toronto. Old Colony Road runs east off Bayview. Few homeowners on this section of the street had security cameras in 2017. The Shermans had no cameras. Barry was dead set against them or any type of security. Just the week before the murders, at dinner before attending a Toronto Maple Leaf hockey game, a friend suggested Barry get a security system and a bodyguard/driver. Barry replied it was a waste of time, and told the friend: “If they are going to get you they are going to get you.”
But a house on the south side of Old Colony did have two video cameras. That house is across from and slightly west of the Sherman home. Those cameras were pointed at the homeowner’s own driveway and lawn, but they also picked up a sliver of the west side of the Sherman property, 50 Old Colony Rd. The cameras also pick up a full view of the next-door neighbours’ house to the west.
The neighbours’ security cameras
The approximate location of the two security cameras that captured the ‘suspicious activity’ of four people the night of the Shermans’ murders.
The timeline of the billionaire murders
On the Wednesday they were murdered, Honey rendezvoused with Barry for a 5 p.m. meeting at Apotex after an afternoon of shopping. It was the second day of Hanukkah and Honey was purchasing gifts for grandchildren. Barry had been at his office all day. The late afternoon meeting in a small Apotex boardroom was to discuss building plans for a $30 million mansion in Forest Hill, the Toronto neighbourhood where Barry grew up and where their daughter Alexandra, her husband and two grandchildren lived. Barry never wanted to move but Honey had her heart set on the plan. The Shermans had listed the Old Colony Rd. home at $6.9 million two weeks earlier; they had an offer for $1 million below asking, which Barry thought was “ridiculous.”
Barry was a workaholic, normally staying at his office until 10 or 11 p.m. The Shermans’ home life wasn’t great, and they’d recently had an argument by email. But at the Wednesday meeting at Apotex, Barry mentioned that he had to go home early that night. (The builder told police this but said he could not recall Barry’s reason.)
At 6:15 p.m., the meeting with the builders ended. Honey walked out of Apotex, got into her Lexus SUV, and drove off. The builders left at the same time. Barry stayed at work for a bit. He was a well-known micromanager and though his role was now chairman, he was still the owner and kept a close watch on his multibillion-dollar company. His emails that evening reveal he was dealing with issues in England with a pharmaceutical regulator, and problems with one of Apotex’s plants in India.
After leaving Apotex, Honey drove to Bayview Village mall, did some shopping and arrived home at approximately 8 p.m. (police will not say exactly when she arrived home).
The portion of the video seem by the Star shows activity on Old Colony Road and at the neighbour’s house beginning almost exactly the time Honey left Apotex — 6:15 p.m. It’s dark out and Old Colony is not well-lit, so the video is grainy. It’s nevertheless chilling, given what is about to happen.
Like many of the houses in the area, including the Shermans’, the next-door neighbours to the west had a crescent-shaped driveway with two entrances, one on each side of the property.
In the video, the lights inside the neighbours’ home are off; a single bulb over the garage on the east side of the home is on.
At 6:17 p.m., a white SUV comes into view, approaching from the east. The SUV — let’s call it “Vehicle A” — passes the Sherman home, then slows and turns into the neighbours’ driveway. Vehicle A drives around the crescent and passes the front door of the house before it comes to a stop on the west side of the property, facing west. Vehicle A’s lights then go off.
Thirty seconds later, a second SUV — “Vehicle B” — pulls into the same driveway entrance as the first. This SUV appears to be light-coloured, but not white. It parks on the east part of the house, facing north, just in front of the home’s garage, which is adjacent to the Sherman property.
Soon, four people get out of the parked vehicles. First, Person 1 gets out of Vehicle A and walks towards the neighbours’ front door. At the same time, Person 2 exits Vehicle B and also walks towards the entrance, appearing to meet Person 1 returning from the door.
Twenty-five seconds later, Person 3 gets out of Vehicle B and again moves toward the front door; a few seconds later, Person 4 also gets out of Vehicle B and runs across the driveway towards the entrance.
Due to trees and bushes that obscure the security camera’s view of the property, it’s impossible to tell if anyone enters the front door. No lights go on inside the house.
The activity — people going back and forth between cars and the door — continues for two minutes, followed by no movement for about 30 minutes.
At 6:58 p.m., a person walks from the front door to Vehicle A, then back to the front entrance, back to Vehicle A, back to the house, and finally back to Vehicle A.
At 7:05 p.m., a person walks from the front of the house to Vehicle B. The lights go on in Vehicle B and the car pulls out of the driveway. It heads west onto Old Colony Road at 7:09 p.m.
The video seen by the Star viewed ends there and the Star has been unable to obtain a video record of what comes next. The video viewed by the Star does not show the departure of Vehicle A, nor does it show Honey or Barry’s arrival home. As the Star has reported, Honey was at Bayview Village Mall after leaving Apotex, and to get home she most likely drove south on Bayview before turning onto Old Colony Road — which means she would approach her home from the west, passing in front of her neighbours’ home. It’s likely that the next section of the security video shows Honey coming home and records her exact time of arrival.
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It would be "nice" to know, which cars the builders were driving ...... How many builders did have the meeting: two or three?
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Canadian cops are notorious for not talking to the media. I’m not surprised we haven’t heard a thing.
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Video reveals ‘suspicious activity’ beside Barry and Honey Sherman’s home just before billionaires’ 2017 murders
Two SUVs pull into the next-door neighbours’ driveway. Four people get out and are seen moving around for at least an hour. Soon after, Barry and Honey Sherman are murdered.
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'They suggest the last people to see the Shermans alive were a custom home builder, architect and subcontractor who met with the couple around 5 p.m. ET on Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2017, to go over some details of the new $20 million home they planned to build.
''Toronto police seized this security camera image of three home builders arriving at Barry Sherman's offices at Apotex in Toronto for a meeting on Dec. 13, 2017. It was the last day the couple was seen alive. (Ontario Court of Justice)
Honey Sherman left the meeting at about 5:30 p.m. and headed home. Barry Sherman stayed at the office for a few more hours to finish some work.
At 6:21 pm, Honey Sherman used her mobile phone to make a five-minute call to a friend. It appears to be the last time family or friends heard from her.''
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From the summary of Daniel Greenglass’s statement to police:
The three of them [DANIEL, JOE, AND ROMAN] got into one car and they went down the 401 and then down Allen Road to Eglington where they dropped off Roman. Daniel and Joe then went to a party. Honey had left in her own car.
Roman told police it was Joe’s car.
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The police held a press conference where they explained that they had reviewed the videos from around the Sherman home and excluded everyone seen on the videos other than the night walker. They don’t need to say this again every time someone notices another camera angle.
Ah! Of course, and I deleted my last post as it was sloppy of me to not remember/check re. the next door neighbor situ!
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