CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[ldlager]

I assume you mean Jeffrey, who did the bulk of the sleuthing to figure out the details of the Empire deal. It turned out Barry willingly handed them over when asked, but Jeffrey hired a PI to research what had happened. He was suspicious of why Barry would give him and his brothers millions of dollars. Kerry has spoken openly of his concerns in late 2017 that his brother would murder Barry. When he heard of the murders he called Jeffrey and asked him if he had done it.

No one has been “ruled out” by TPS.

I agree with you that if JS had given the police his hit man etransfer confirmation crypto codes, he would have been in jail long ago. This is such a ridiculous suggestion I cannot believe it is so commonly held.

“No one has been “ruled out” by TPS.” That says everything,, doesn’t it?

 

[KSwizzle]

With the posting of a photo of JS hand displaying crypto codes it find it hard to believe that if JS was involved or indeed any perpetrator of the murders, that hey would then post crypto codes on social media for the world to see It would be like saying "this is how I paid for the killers using ctypto" . Any perpetrator with at least one brain cell would not do such a thing. That said, if JS was the perpetrator he may have paid his helpers through some other means and the crypto stuff might be completely innocent.

What you said regarding the nightwalker I totally agree with. So who paid knightwalket to do it? Or who had connections that did not inolve payment but had interest in order to carry out the act for some reason in regard to any of the following three main suspects

JS
FD
KW's brother.

For example, FD may not have wanted sherman dead but due to Barry's tightening of his purse may inadvertantly have triggered undesirable associates of FD.

As for KW's brother. Where was he when the shermans were murdered. We dont hear much about this suspect in KD's book or in any other source. We hear a lot about KW and KW's thoughts. How exactly has the brother of KW been ruled out by the TPS?

The answer to this case is probably a lot simpler than people think. Yes there are lots of variables in this case but usually the truth is much simpler. Yes follow the money Is a good lead but I do wonder if it's taking TPS down the wrong path.

Sometimes the simple explanations are the most plausible. Maybe that's why this hasn't been solved because we've been looking too deep when the answer lies in front of us before our very eyes.

I think it allegedly could very well be possible he shows a crypto wallet in a post and uses a different key/wallet to pay for a murder.

I also think that we can't just project on any alleged murderer or conspirator to a murder that they're intelligent and that intelligence would translate to being able to commit a perfect crime, perfect meaning they literally think of everything and plan for it. It is very possible and there are many cases you can see where a murderer posts incriminating or tangentially incriminating words/pictures on social media

My outside looking in opinion is JS had something to do with their murders, he was asked to repay loans, his relationship with at least one parent was fractured, seems he's still involved in these legal battles

As always MOO

 

[branmuffin]

But wasn’t it established that BS was to be home earlier than “normal” that day? Either HS or BS said it to the builders AFAIK that he had to get home “early” that night?

Maybe he thought the dinner was still on.

 

[fadedglitter]

Maybe he thought the dinner was still on.

Or maybe he was trying to get them to leave. Thanks for coming to the office, I need to get back to it, see you next time…

He did not leave early. He left at his normal time, just after 8pm.

 

[wibbleflea]

He did not leave early. He left at his normal time, just after 8pm.

This has come up previously. Jeremy Desai thought otherwise, saying it was normal for BS to work till 10:30 or 11 pm.

CANADA - Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

 

[fadedglitter]

This has come up previously. Jeremy Desai thought otherwise, saying it was normal for BS to work till 10:30 or 11 pm.

CANADA - Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

Barry did work very late, sending emails from his house at all hours. The head of Apotex security told police Barry’s routine was like clockwork: 9 or 10am to 8pm. He would drive home and continue to work from his house.

 

[wibbleflea]

Barry did work very late, sending emails from his house at all hours. The head of Apotex security told police Barry’s routine was like clockwork: 9 or 10am to 8pm. He would drive home and continue to work from his house.

The disagreement between the head of Apotex security and JD is potentially significant. Would be interesting to get a clearer idea, which LE presumable has.

If HS was the primary target and BS wasn’t expected back this early (by the killer), that changes a lot.

The killer’s apparent knowledge of other people (at Apotex and at home) being absent for the next couple of days is currently taken as a sign of deep knowledge and careful planning but in this scenario, would have been coincidental. (Counterproductive, if anything.) And, as mentioned previously, BS would have been the primary suspect, at least for a while, having (eventually) discovered HS by the pool with no sign of a break-in, no prints, etc.

 

[fadedglitter]

The disagreement between the head of Apotex security and JD is potentially significant. Would be interesting to get a clearer idea, which LE presumable has.

If HS was the primary target and BS wasn’t expected back this early (by the killer), that changes a lot.

The killer’s apparent knowledge of other people (at Apotex and at home) being absent for the next couple of days is currently taken as a sign of deep knowledge and careful planning but in this scenario, would have been coincidental. (Counterproductive, if anything.) And, as mentioned previously, BS would have been the primary suspect, at least for a while, having (eventually) discovered HS by the pool with no sign of a break-in, no prints, etc.

I have never seen this as a disagreement. They weren’t talking about the same thing. JD and other executives were talking about receiving work emails from Barry at all hours. The security head was talking about Barry’s on-site presence. There’s no contradiction there. Barry was a BlackBerry legend.

This is now my own personal speculation but I think your other observations are right on. If Honey was the target and the killer didn’t know Barry’s schedule but believed in error that “working late” meant Barry was physically at the office until close to midnight, the killer might believe he had all the time in the world to murder Honey, frame Barry, and escape. This killer might have been surprised when Barry arrived at the house sooner than he expected. The killer might then have needed to improvise.

 

[Charlot123]

With the posting of a photo of JS hand displaying crypto codes it find it hard to believe that if JS was involved or indeed any perpetrator of the murders, that hey would then post crypto codes on social media for the world to see It would be like saying "this is how I paid for the killers using ctypto" . Any perpetrator with at least one brain cell would not do such a thing. That said, if JS was the perpetrator he may have paid his helpers through some other means and the crypto stuff might be completely innocent.

What you said regarding the nightwalker I totally agree with. So who paid knightwalket to do it? Or who had connections that did not inolve payment but had interest in order to carry out the act for some reason in regard to any of the following three main suspects

JS
FD
KW's brother.

For example, FD may not have wanted sherman dead but due to Barry's tightening of his purse may inadvertantly have triggered undesirable associates of FD.

As for KW's brother. Where was he when the shermans were murdered. We dont hear much about this suspect in KD's book or in any other source. We hear a lot about KW and KW's thoughts. How exactly has the brother of KW been ruled out by the TPS?

The answer to this case is probably a lot simpler than people think. Yes there are lots of variables in this case but usually the truth is much simpler. Yes follow the money Is a good lead but I do wonder if it's taking TPS down the wrong path.

Sometimes the simple explanations are the most plausible. Maybe that's why this hasn't been solved because we've been looking too deep when the answer lies in front of us before our very eyes.

Looking at the Shechtman's lawsuit and the romp/fuss about the trust, it seems obvious that: 1) while Apotex is a big company, the murders of the Shermans didn't come from Teva or any other competitor company, nor was it the Mossad, the democrats of Canada or the Jewish philanthropies.

Not a single entity, no one but the people who either stood to or hoped to inherit the Shermans' money were involved.

And what money can do, you can see by the current fight. Heck, these people are relatives or relatives by marriage, and were probably in good relationship...

The longer they fight, the more obvious it becomes that the Shermans were killed for money and inheritance.

Were the Shermans the type of people who'd threaten to change insurance, cross someone out of their will when they'd get unhappy with the family?

 

[FromGermany1]

Were the Shermans the type of people who'd threaten to change insurance, cross someone out of their will when they'd get unhappy with the family?

I think: yes, they were these type of people. If not Barry, then probably Honey, insisting into Barry until his ears would have been ringing. MOO

IF (big IF) Barry murdered Honey and IF he had a best friend stage the crime scene for looking like a "double murder", would Barry have known, that all his greedy relatives would get under suspicion, and would he have approved (grinning inwardly)??

All MOO

 

[Charlot123]

I think: yes, they were these type of people. If not Barry, then probably Honey, insisting into Barry until his ears would have been ringing. MOO

IF (big IF) Barry murdered Honey and IF he had a best friend stage the crime scene for looking like a "double murder", would Barry have known, that all his greedy relatives would get under suspicion, and would he have approved (grinning inwardly)??

All MOO

I thought so.

They were both impulsive people.

Sometimes, you have a parent who becomes a great businessman because he is all that, impulsive, aggressive, ruthless, a workaholic, but also, darn bright. A "cutthroat-economical" way of thinking that most of us don't have. And then, the kids inherit most of these traits, but perhaps, not enough talent nor the obsessiveness. Barry was the unique businessman, see how many times he lost money but ended up winning again. The kids probably had certain insecurity in comparison to him, too.

Plus, their was probably an emotional house, with parents playing favoritism, and no one being sure what they'd finally inherit. All of it contributing into the tensions, no doubt.

What you said is a big IF. I think if he did it, he was not in the phase to ponder his kids' fate. But, had he known how the world would now be guessing, who? why?, he'd be amused.

 

[Charlot123]

Sorry posted in the wrong thread

 

[FromGermany1]

I thought so.

They were both impulsive people.

Sometimes, you have a parent who becomes a great businessman because he is all that, impulsive, aggressive, ruthless, a workaholic, but also, darn bright. A "cutthroat-economical" way of thinking that most of us don't have. And then, the kids inherit most of these traits, but perhaps, not enough talent nor the obsessiveness. Barry was the unique businessman, see how many times he lost money but ended up winning again. The kids probably had certain insecurity in comparison to him, too.

Plus, their was probably an emotional house, with parents playing favoritism, and no one being sure what they'd finally inherit. All of it contributing into the tensions, no doubt.

What you said is a big IF. I think if he did it, he was not in the phase to ponder his kids' fate. But, had he known how the world would now be guessing, who? why?, he'd be amused.

"Amused" - that's the term!
BS took most things very calmly, even when JS tried to declare his father legally incompetent. He should have been offended and outraged, one would think.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

"Amused" - that's the term!
BS took most things very calmly, even when JS tried to declare his father legally incompetent. He should have been offended and outraged, one would think.

I had totally forgotten about that!

 

[dotr]

Nov 25, 2025

Daughter of Barry and Honey Sherman buys property where her parents were murdered

Neighbours of the north Toronto property, where the Shermans’ house once stood, are worried about what it might become.

www.thestar.com

''The daughter of slain billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman has purchased the vacant lot in North York that held the house where her parents were murdered. A group of neighbours are concerned it will become a memorial park.
A spokesperson for Sherman daughter Alexandra Krawczyk said no decision has been made on what to do with the half-acre lot.
“It is (Krawczyk’s) desire to work collaboratively with neighbours on Old Colony Road to do something with the property that will be respectful of her parents’ legacy and be in keeping with the neighbourhood,” says a spokesperson for Krawczyk.''

''One neighbour contacted the Star, saying she is concerned that a park would bring unwanted attention. She said that over the years, since the Sherman murders, there have been many odd activities outside the vacant lot, including a young man who walked back and forth in front of the tall plywood construction fence holding a candle in the middle of the night.''

 

[Wilma_W]

Nov 25, 2025

Daughter of Barry and Honey Sherman buys property where her parents were murdered

Neighbours of the north Toronto property, where the Shermans’ house once stood, are worried about what it might become.

www.thestar.com

View attachment 626853
''The daughter of slain billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman has purchased the vacant lot in North York that held the house where her parents were murdered. A group of neighbours are concerned it will become a memorial park.
A spokesperson for Sherman daughter Alexandra Krawczyk said no decision has been made on what to do with the half-acre lot.
“It is (Krawczyk’s) desire to work collaboratively with neighbours on Old Colony Road to do something with the property that will be respectful of her parents’ legacy and be in keeping with the neighbourhood,” says a spokesperson for Krawczyk.''

''One neighbour contacted the Star, saying she is concerned that a park would bring unwanted attention. She said that over the years, since the Sherman murders, there have been many odd activities outside the vacant lot, including a young man who walked back and forth in front of the tall plywood construction fence holding a candle in the middle of the night.''

From the article:

"Thirty-two years later, just before they were murdered, Honey convinced Barry to sell Old Colony and build a $30 million mansion in Forest Hill, where Barry was born and where their daughter Alexandra and her family lived, as did Honey’s sister Mary. Barry, who had a streak of fatalism, complained to friends and colleagues about moving: “Why sell? I always thought I would die in this house,” he said to friends. Still, he agreed to list it, asking $6.9 million."

 

[dotr]

From the article:

"Thirty-two years later, just before they were murdered, Honey convinced Barry to sell Old Colony and build a $30 million mansion in Forest Hill, where Barry was born and where their daughter Alexandra and her family lived, as did Honey’s sister Mary. Barry, who had a streak of fatalism, complained to friends and colleagues about moving: “Why sell? I always thought I would die in this house,” he said to friends. Still, he agreed to list it, asking $6.9 million."

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[WINDSOR]

I have never seen this as a disagreement. They weren’t talking about the same thing. JD and other executives were talking about receiving work emails from Barry at all hours. The security head was talking about Barry’s on-site presence. There’s no contradiction there. Barry was a BlackBerry legend.

This is now my own personal speculation but I think your other observations are right on. If Honey was the target and the killer didn’t know Barry’s schedule but believed in error that “working late” meant Barry was physically at the office until close to midnight, the killer might believe he had all the time in the world to murder Honey, frame Barry, and escape. This killer might have been surprised when Barry arrived at the house sooner than he expected. The killer might then have needed to improvise.

If Honey was the target, (and Barry came home too early), what possible motive was there to have her killed? Who would benefit from her death?

 

[fadedglitter]

If Honey was the target, (and Barry came home too early), what possible motive was there to have her killed? Who would benefit from her death?

When you’re not laser-focused on inheritance as the only possible motive, many other motives come into view.

We could stick with the financial motives and note that Barry was calling loans, laying off staff and cutting non-family members off. Meanwhile he was telling everyone who would listen that Honey was insisting on spending millions on a new home. A person who heard this might believe that getting Honey out of the way would return Barry to his typical generosity.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Nov 25, 2025

Daughter of Barry and Honey Sherman buys property where her parents were murdered

Neighbours of the north Toronto property, where the Shermans’ house once stood, are worried about what it might become.

www.thestar.com

View attachment 626853
''The daughter of slain billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman has purchased the vacant lot in North York that held the house where her parents were murdered. A group of neighbours are concerned it will become a memorial park.
A spokesperson for Sherman daughter Alexandra Krawczyk said no decision has been made on what to do with the half-acre lot.
“It is (Krawczyk’s) desire to work collaboratively with neighbours on Old Colony Road to do something with the property that will be respectful of her parents’ legacy and be in keeping with the neighbourhood,” says a spokesperson for Krawczyk.''

''One neighbour contacted the Star, saying she is concerned that a park would bring unwanted attention. She said that over the years, since the Sherman murders, there have been many odd activities outside the vacant lot, including a young man who walked back and forth in front of the tall plywood construction fence holding a candle in the middle of the night.''

That’s really bizarre about the guy with the candle. I guess nobody wants to buy the property because of what happened.