Canada - Gursimran Kaur, 19, Walmart worker found dead inside bakery oven - October 22, 2024

  • #201
But if it were someone else who put her in there, possibly after hurting or killing her, then that would mean that some person would have had to physically transport her to the bakery department and into the oven, all while the store was OPEN for business! With many customers and employees moving around everywhere all over the whole store at the same time!

Can't see how that would be possible.

Perhaps if the initial crime, if it happened, happened in the bakery department, so she at least wouldn't have had to be brought over from some other part of the store? Seems very unlikely IMO. But I could maybe see it if she and another person were both already in the bakery area, and someone shoved her into the oven, shut the door, and turned on oven, and then the person ran off. But all this while other employees must have been very nearby as well as customers right out front of the bakery who could have seen all this? And someone who doesn't belong in the employee part of the bakery would be easy to spot and report. Not to mention that I think the oven doors were supposedly openable from the inside?

But no other theory I can come up with makes any more sense, because nothing explains how she came to be inside, conscious or not, unable to exit, PLUS the oven being turned on at all. I assume the controls to turn the heat on in the oven are outside of the oven, right? Actually, I guess I don't know that, maybe they're on the inside, but I doubt it. But that's important; we need to know that. But how would it get turned on if they are on the outside, when no one had any reason to turn it on at all at that time (closing time on weekend)? Actually, it was way before closing time that she "disappeared", so we don't have any idea how long she was in there, neither with the oven on nor off. I mean she may have been in there for hours but the oven wasn't even on til much later. I don't know how long it would take for her to have the burns they said she did. Or she may have been somewhere else for those hours when no one knew where she was. But that would still mean someone would've had to get her over there and in the oven while store was open w/lots of people all over. Nope. And surely they know how long the oven was on for altogether. Wouldn't it have to be turned on hot with her inside for quite awhile for her to die in there? And I would imagine it's pretty obvious from the outside that the oven is on. I'd expect it to produce enough heat that people in the bakery department can tell it's on, and probably hear it too. And they said there was no reason for it to be on at all at that time, and bakery employees would know this. But does that mean they never use the oven for many hours before closing time on Saturday or whatever day it was? I guess that's possible.

Nothing so far explains this, imo.

Yet. Terrible, sad tragedy.
Good post.

The interviews with employees will be critical. I assume they will interview every one of them and I am uncertain how many that would be. Cell phone data will be big.
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There are two main theories on who did this but I'll leave that to your imagination(s).
 
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  • #202
I have one theory about who did this horrible thing. Enough said.
 
  • #203
I have one theory about who did this horrible thing. Enough said.
Probably the same as ours here... we had this more or less sorted the day or two after. But until you know... you don't know.
 
  • #204
Probably the same as ours here... we had this more or less sorted the day or two after. But until you know... you don't know.
Possibly. And I’m a few provinces over, in Ontario. :)
 
  • #205
I can’t tolerate the idea of her being put in the oven alive.
 
  • #206
I can’t tolerate the idea of her being put in the oven alive.
ITA !
Just cannot bear to think of it ... IF this is what happened, the perp needs to face the harshest penalty allowed by law... etc.
No more words that I will use here.
Ugh.
Omo.
 
  • #207
Is the family here from India yet?
 
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I think in this case someone was very clever and put her in there after murdering her to obfuscate any evidence of foul play1
Or she was drugged and placed on the oven floor. jmho
Sounds horrible... :(
My heart goes out for that poor girl and her family.
 
  • #210
I’m the one who brought up the idea of self-harm but I believe if that was the case that would have been communicated by now, albeit I don’t know how it’s done in Canada. In the US, they might just say, “No foul play is suspected and the family requests privacy.”

Since that hasn’t happened, now I’m firmly in the foul play camp. I have two pretty different theories as well but don’t want to speculate much as we have so little to go on. I will just say that if she went into that oven alive, she was lured there by someone she knew and trusted. I really hope she didn’t though, and that she was at least unconscious when she did.
 
  • #211
If the oven can be opened from inside, it would have to be more complex than “shove her in and run.” She’d have to be incapacitated or they’d have to block the door, which would be hard in an open store.
 
  • #212
And if it was foul play, the person couldn't have been some guy walking through the store and out of the blue he decided to do something horrible. JMO
and if it was, there will be video surveillance which I think the cops would've released by now if some random was wandering around in public after murdering someone
 
  • #213
I agree 100%. I just hope those employees are being compensated in some form, even if only EI, until it reopens.

pretty sure they already said that the employees were getting full pay while closed down
 
  • #214
If no one admits to seeing someone put her in there, they can’t arrest anyone.

yes they absolutely can
cops don't need eyewitnesses to make arrests
 
  • #215
yes they absolutely can
cops don't need eyewitnesses to make arrests
Yes the store cameras don’t lie! Unless they have been tampered with
 
  • #216
Sorry if this is a re-post. (October 30th). The only new information is that a stop
work order is automatically placed on equipment when an incident happens, and Walmart said on the 27th that they are staying closed for at least another week.
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  • #217
Thanks Lexi. It was new for me. :)
 
  • #218
Good post.

The interviews with employees will be critical. I assume they will interview every one of them and I am uncertain how many that would be. Cell phone data will be big.
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There are two main theories on who did this but I'll leave that to your imagination(s).

Perhaps it was just a terrible accident and no one ‘did’ anything.
 
  • #219
Perhaps it was just a terrible accident and no one ‘did’ anything.
crazier workplace accidents have happened before. im only ~30% on the accident theory, id be more willing to buy into that if it was known that she worked in the bakery department, had cleaned or done maintenance checks on the oven in the past, or the oven was supposed to be used that day.
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  • #220
Perhaps it was just a terrible accident and no one ‘did’ anything.
I’m having a hard time coming up with an accident scenario that makes any sense- door doesn’t auto shut, or auto lock and as best I can tell should not have been on at that time and no one should accidentally have been in the oven - I’m having trouble finding an accident scenario that fits what we know so far- I’m could be missing something obvious and all my own opinions-

do you have an accident theory that makes sense to you? I’m stumped-
 

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