CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Andromeda]

A few things
- one smaller window is covered with plastic
- the woodpile suggests the mobile home is heated by a wood stove. But as long and narrow is not conducive to heat distribution, it must get very cold at the back on winter/chilly days.
- there’s a newer Nissan parked to the right. No licence plates indicates it’s unregistered. Just odd, if the couple couldn’t afford to repair the furnace or fix the window why not sell the Nissan that’s not being driven?
All in all, it’s not surprising that Lily might’ve had a cough

Source Two Nova Scotia children are missing. Here’s a timeline of key events since the siblings vanished (sorry this link has become locked again)
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Re registration. Must be done within 30 days. Also, license plate is attached to applicant not car. So if for example they were getting rid of the first vehicle, they can simply switch the plate to the new car when registering it. If this is going to be a second vehicle, applicant must have a valid driver’s license, inspection certificate and insurance to register. Given the allowable time frame and slow work schedule, they might have had to wait for a pay cheque before being able to afford the insurance premium so they could register it?

 

[Ontario Mom]

the first thing I would have done was ask grandma and uncle if kids were with them after looking through my own house.

We don't even know if either of them were there that morning.
We also don't know if they were, and if they were asked.
Just because it hasn't been mentioned in the media doesn't mean it didn't (or did) happen.

 

[kritafo]

I feel like everything we have is speculation - how sad

 

[Allabouttrial]

True. The link to DM saying this is gone. It definitely wasn’t from a news source. So moderators probably felt it wasn’t a legit link/quote. That said, here in Canada, if a parent suddenly has no way of getting in touch with their partner/wants to see their baby and is being denied access by the other parent, typically you hire a family lawyer.

It was from a legit MSM but you can only read it if you pay for a subscription.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Does immediately racing out to check culverts strike anyone else as odd? I don't think that would even occur to me until long after I'd been searching through the woods, asking the neighbors, etc.

Kids like to play/crawl in culverts imo. And, because maybe the culvert was close to the house.

 

[Snoop Sister]

the first thing I would have done was ask grandma and uncle if kids were with them after looking through my own house.

How do we know that he didn’t do that? He just might not have mentioned it in his statement to the press.

 

[mickey2942]

It's quite probable that none of us have any idea of what we would say in such a traumatic situation. Regardless of how we word it, there will be people who will pick apart our words and say they would have phrased it better.

Agreed. Good grief, I attended a training this week, we were instructed to not say, "I am so sorry" to someone who is grieving, because then, it makes the person who has lost someone say, "it is okay" or something similar.

Analysis of every single word we say....no matter what you say, someone will pick it apart and make a negative connotation.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Agreed. Good grief, I attended a training this week, we were instructed to not say, "I am so sorry" to someone who is grieving, because then, it makes the person who has lost someone say, "it is okay" or something similar.

Analysis of every single word we say....no matter what you say, someone will pick it apart and make a negative connotation.

Good points!

 

[ASipowicz]

Does anyone else find it odd that on that Friday the mother began her statements by saying, "What happened was ....." and then launches into detail of the morning happenings? The details seems to have been thought out beforehand. Just MOO. I would have too flustered to give provide all of that detail.

 

[MistyWaters]

We don’t know the entirety of their situation.

No we don’t know but I’m not noticing any bright spots in their situation. By chance, if a fairy godmother has wisked away the children out of concern for their wellbeing and CPS is actively invested in ensuring baby M is raised in a safe and healthy environment, that’s about as best as it can possibly get. But that’s probably all wishful thinking. IMO

 

[otto]

Wasn't it Marc Klaas who said that when a child goes missing, do everything possible to cooperate and clear your name to ensure that investigators can rule out family members and focus on the facts?

That seems to be what the stepfather has been doing since the children were reported missing. He is grief-stricken, abandoned by his partner, and he is trying to answer every question that is posed by RCMP, journalists, and social media. Gotta give him credit.

 

[Warden23]

I read something in one of the posted articles upthread, which said there was no cell phone service in much of that area. I wonder if that is true or not?

I don't know about this particular spot, but it is common for there not to be cell service in many areas of Atlantic Canada. I do know that there's often none through the Cobequid Pass, which is a major highway nearby, as well as the 106, which is another nearby highway. If it's not available on those main roads, it wouldn't be shocking for it to not be available on the outskirts.

 

[Warden23]

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I’ve spent more than a couple of minutes trying to figure out why someone would use the word “instinct” when calling 911 after looking everywhere but failing to find one’s children. Any idea?

‘We just want them home’: Mother of missing children in Nova Scotia’s Pictou County pleads for safe return

The mother of two missing children in Nova Scotia’s Pictou County is pleading for their safe return.

www.ctvnews.ca

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“We get up and look outside. We’re looking everywhere, yelling for them, and I instantly just called 911. I just had the instinct I needed to call.”

It's important to remember that living out here, it might take hours for the RCMP to arrive. If they never leave the property, uncharacteristically shut the door, took a backpack, and you can't find them, it's better to call sooner than later, you can always call back and call them off. But if you can't find them, you gotta start asap out here.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I can't even begin to imagine what it must feel like to be the parent/step-parent of a missing child(ren) and see random strangers online bashing, trashing and flat out calling me and my partner a liar.
Good thing this forum is victim friendly and grieving parents never have to see that here.

 

[iamafiusny]

Wasn't it Marc Klaas who said that when a child goes missing, do everything possible to cooperate and clear your name to ensure that investigators can rule out family members and focus on the facts?

That seems to be what the stepfather has been doing since the children were reported missing. He is grief-stricken, abandoned by his partner, and he is trying to answer every question that is posed by RCMP, journalists, and social media. Gotta give him credit.

He says he's fully cooperating, but just like we don't know things like if they first checked grandmother's trailer, we also don't know if he's actually being cooperative behind the scenes. Some people have said they feel like his comments are trying to control the narrative. Jmo.

Imo, two missing kids increases the odds of everything:

One kid not wanting to wander or getting an adult for help.

A passerby noticing unattended kids on a school day, or strange cars in the area.

A child crying or screaming loud enough to be heard.

A found pull-up, shoe, etc.

Two kids vanishing without any trace is odd, imo.

Then again, maybe they have found a boot or something and just haven't said.

Moo

 

[Warden23]

I know how quickly kids can "dissappear". It happened to me when my son was three years old. He left the house, went across the street, to the neighbors house to play. I had no clue he could open the door, leave the house and go across the street.

I wasn't sure whether to hug him or smack him when I found him. I had gone crazy for over 15 minutes looking for him.

They go from "being a baby" to independently leaving the house, in a nanosecond. I pray for this family. There for the grace of God, this could have easily been me. Or any other family.

This happened to me, too. She was still in a crib, even. Apparently she climbed out, let her self out, and went on an adventure "like Dora". The worst hour and a half of my life.

 

[Andromeda]

I don't know about this particular spot, but it is common for there not to be cell service in many areas of Atlantic Canada. I do know that there's often none through the Cobequid Pass, which is a major highway nearby, as well as the 106, which is another nearby highway. If it's not available on those main roads, it wouldn't be shocking for it to not be available on the outskirts.

Very true. But “find my phone”, if on, always tracks a phone's movements. it’s part of the ‘memory’. RCMP can literally access these files and confirm the movement of stepdad/phone during the period in question. Cell tower pings will also stamp phones/numbers within its vicinity. They can easily obtain numbers of the comings and goings of anyone in that vicinity and follow those leads.

 

[Warden23]

Very true. But “find my phone”, if on, always tracks a phone's movements. it’s part of the ‘memory’. RCMP can literally access these files and confirm the movement of stepdad/phone during the period in question. Cell tower pings will also stamp phones/numbers within its vicinity. They can easily obtain numbers of the comings and goings of anyone in that vicinity and follow those leads.

Not if you don't have "find my phone" turned on.

 

[MrsWatson]

Could someone please post the link showing that the stepfather and mother have been named as people of interest?

 

[Warden23]

Does immediately racing out to check culverts strike anyone else as odd? I don't think that would even occur to me until long after I'd been searching through the woods, asking the neighbors, etc.

If I don't see them in the yard, I'd definitely check nearby water first. Drowning is quick, distance covered in the bush is slow.