CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Andromeda]

I am thinking that you might be on to something here, timing-wise. I just cannot understand why neither the infrared, nor the dogs picked up anything. And absolutely no artifacts belonging to these two children has been found, near or far. They could have been abducted, but that is less likely than it might seem, given the remoteness of the area.

A kind member linked a very detailed article why infrared would not have captured the children. In further reading, the kids were off on the Wednesday (Truth and Reconciliation/national holiday) and apparently the mom called Lilly in sick because of a cough. (Only mention of Lilly, not Jack.) I did read an earlier report that said Jack was enrolled in pre-primary (which is jr. Kindergarten in i.e., Ontario). So the parents elected to keep both children home from school, which I would have, too.

 

[appleatcha]

I've only heard them say "the children are believed to have wandered away from their family home on Gairloch Road in Lansdowne Station, N.S., about 20 kilometres southwest of New Glasgow."

Which doesn't necessarily mean that's what they believe. Moo.

They have stated they don't believe an abduction took place and they have not ruled out that the case is suspicious.

Is there a specific statement that makes you confident?

Personally, I don't believe the kids are still in the trailer, but we really only have the parents word. With no security footage, witnesses, etc. nothing can really be certain at this point (based on what's been released to the public).

Jmo

Sure, here's one example:

“It has been an all-hands-on-deck effort, using every available resource and tool,” said Staff Sgt. Curtis MacKinnon, district commander for Pictou County District RCMP. [link]

That leads me to believe they thoroughly searched the trailer and that they're confident the children aren't there.

 

[MistyWaters]

Article mentions Martells mother lives on the property in an RV with a dog and several cats. I have paraphrased it before.

This will be removed because it’s from a paywalled article but the posts that say there is no dog on the property will be left up.

Okay but even if his mother had a dog, that’s not enough information to conclude anything. It might’ve been a small house dog. For anyone (not necessarily you) to assume the children couldn’t have wandered off without the dog following them is a giant reach given neither the mother nor step father mentioned anything about a dog.

 

[AIGT]

Okay but even if his mother had a dog, that’s not enough information to conclude anything. It might’ve been a small house dog. For anyone (not necessarily you) to assume the children couldn’t have wandered off without the dog following them is a giant reach given neither the mother nor step father mentioned anything about a dog.

I would never suggest the dog followed them. I think the opposite. Anything I’ve said in regard to dogs is try to stop people from saying there was no dog.

It is more important for RCMP to use the dog for investigative reason - did his mom hear the dog bark at a certain time indicating a time the kids were out? Does the dog bark at that kind of stuff? Could the dog have done something and they are covering up for it? Lots of dog factors they would’ve looked in to.

Interestingly enough in regards to following - there is a video out there that was taken on their road the past couple days of a man (they say it’s Martells dad but I don’t know if that’s true) confronting someone who’s taking a video and when he walks away you can see a cat following him.

 

[AIGT]

Sure, here's one example:

“It has been an all-hands-on-deck effort, using every available resource and tool,” said Staff Sgt. Curtis MacKinnon, district commander for Pictou County District RCMP. [link]

That leads me to believe they thoroughly searched the trailer and that they're confident the children aren't there.

The dispatch log has RCMP indicating they had searched the property and residence at least twice on the 2nd.

 

[Ontario Mom]

With all due respect, this is none of anyone's business right now. As pointed out up thread there are no POIs and we should not be sleuthing the family

Thank you.

 

[Ontario Mom]

No reports of dogs, no lost dogs, no dogs have never been mentioned, IMO equals no dogs.

Not accurate information. It has been stated in one of the MSM articles posted that DM's mother lives on the property with her dog, and several cats.

 

[Andromeda]

Might have been new to them, but not “new”. What do we know about the car?

Sometimes parents hand off their used car to their struggling offspring when purchasing a new one for themselves.

 

[iamafiusny]

It's reported that Jack was in just a pull-up and blue boots.

That makes it even more unlikely, imo, they could get very far with the way the woods are being described. That would be very painful, especially for 4 year-old skin.

Seems like they would turn back or sit down and cry pretty quickly.

Jmo

 

[appleatcha]

The dispatch log has RCMP indicating they had searched the property and residence at least twice on the 2nd.

I knew I'd seen that, but I couldn't find it again. Thank you!

 

[Peanut0927]

Households in rural areas usually do have dogs as pets. I was hoping that the dog, if there was one, followed them. JMO

I did read in an article that DM’s mother has cats and a dog in the camper she lives in behind the home. I can try to locate the source but it might take a while as I’ve scrolled through a whole lot

 

[MistyWaters]

I did read in an article that DM’s mother has cats and a dog in the camper she lives in behind the home. I can try to locate the source but it might take a while as I’ve scrolled through a whole lot

That’s okay, a couple of other people recall reading it. However it’s purely speculation the mother’s dog typically followed the children or barked if they were outside. We cannot create facts built upon assumptions.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Yes. I posted a link later in this thread from either CBC or MSN saying the kids are part of the Sipekne’katik community via their maternal grandfather. But I there were no maps linked and I personally couldn’t tell whether the home falls within the community. All that to say, the RCMP has been on this case since dot and, the Sipekne’katik community have responded via their social media.

I posted this information earlier. I think the confusion is that most of Nova Scotia is the unceded traditional lands of the Mi'kmaq First Nations which Sipekne'katik First Nation is part of. However, DM’s home is not on reserve land.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/americas/missing-siblings-canada-nova-scotia-intl-hnk

 

[Warden23]

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Can you read this? https://archive.ph/n0LUn

This I can read, thank you.

 

[Warden23]

No no they don’t live on a Rez.
Daniel Martell is not native at all and this is his familial home. Not on a reservation at all.

It’s just very rural. But the RCMP detachment in Stellarton is only about a 20 minute drive away so they are NOT that isolated where emergency services would take hours to arrive.

I have property in Guysborough County which is just southeast of this area and is actually even more rural than this area. Like we actually have to drive up to Antigonish for the big store shopping and services and sometimes stop for pizza and donairs in Stellarton or Pictou County pizza for a treat

Communities like this are very small and insular but neighbours will gather and help in situations like this

You may have property here, but have you ever had to call for help? I have, and it has taken forever and a half. Heck, even back when I lived in downtown Halifax, it took 45 minutes.

 

[Warden23]

It appears a debrief video I was watching late last night catching up on the case was probably an investigative team used by the RCMP, like ground search, saying their efforts were drawing to a close and were handing back to the RCMP.

However, the Sipekne’katik community can call the Emergency Management Office in case of emergency. The children are part of the Sipekne’katik tribe via their maternal grandfather per the CBC link below. It doesn’t appear this was the case as the mom said she called 911.
Emergency Management Office — Sipekne'katik

Not sure if that specific area has their own regional police since it appears the RCMP has been on this case since the beginning and the spokes person for the Municipality was the wardon.

CBC reports the RCMP did say they received a call around 10am. So that has been confirmed.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...en-pictou-county-lily-jack-sullivan-1.7527613

It doesn't matter if you're on reserve or not, you still call 911 regardless in this situation. Also, they weren't on the reserve anyway, so this doesn't matter one way or the other.

 

[Andromeda]

MAY 3 above BBM
As usual, the actual happenings are puzzling. Why did MBM leave to go sit in the back of the ambulance midway through the update???. Was her mother in there (she departs with her mother) and the ambulance drove off? Where was baby M?

I was under the impression that 1) the ambulance was onsite incase they found the kids and they needed to be swiftly transported to the hospital. 2) The mom was beside herself and needed i.e., oxygen? If the children’s mom left with her mom/grandmother, I would interpret that to mean she did not leave in the ambulance to hospital, but instead via her mother’s vehicle to her family home. jmo

 

[Warden23]

MAY 3 above BBM
As usual, the actual happenings are puzzling. Why did MBM leave to go sit in the back of the ambulance midway through the update???. Was her mother in there (she departs with her mother) and the ambulance drove off? Where was baby M?

If you had police talking about how your children were probably dead, do you not think you'd have to seek medical assistance and family support?

 

[Warden23]

Yes, thank you. It’s the source of something I recall reading earlier (pasted below). So if in fact LE is attempting to identify cellphones that can be traced to the yard, would that not be indicative of investigating the possibility of an abduction?

“RCMP search the dense forest behind the home in a helicopter. Plainclothes investigators arrive again to speak with Mr. Martell. “Basically at this point they just want to look at any tech that could help match up any phones that came into the yard,” he said.”

It's a possibility of anything. They don't think it's an abduction, they think it could be anything. So, they're looking at everything.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Snipped by me

However, the Sipekne’katik community can call the Emergency Management Office in case of emergency. The children are part of the Sipekne’katik tribe via their maternal grandfather per the CBC link below. It doesn’t appear this was the case as the mom said she called 911. Management Office — Sipekne'katik

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...en-pictou-county-lily-jack-sullivan-1.7527613

Lily and Jack’s mom phoned the appropriate number (911) to report her missing children. Emergency management on the reserve deals more with hazards etc.

National On-reserve All Hazards Emergency Management Plan

The purpose of the AANDC National Emergency Management Plan is to provide a national framework for the roles and responsibilities of emergency management: mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery activities in First Nations communities across Canada.

www.sac-isc.gc.ca