CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[Warden23]

The children went missing on May 2. The RCMP did not say, nor suggest, that the children were deceased on May 3.

In fact, I have yet to hear any investigator declare that a missing person is deceased, as they cannot know that without a body.

On May 3, during a S&R briefing, the mother left the briefing, then left the property. There is no reason for her decision to leave.

I just don't get why it matters that she left. She's like 20 mins away at her mom's house. She needs support.

 

[iamafiusny]

What to know about search for 2 missing siblings in rural Nova Scotia | Globalnews.ca

Around 150 people have been searching daily in Pictou County for Lily and Jack Sullivan since they disappeared nearly a week ago. The search has now been scaled back.

globalnews.ca

Jack Sullivan has short, blond hair and is wearing blue dinosaur boots. Martell said he had not seen Jack on Friday morning, but believed he was wearing a brown shirt and pants with a pull-up diaper underneath.

Thank you! I had not read that anywhere.
Still hadn't seen Jack by 10 am

Moo

 

[FansBlowing]

She left a briefing about her children halfway through to go in the ambulance.

That medical info is all stuff they would’ve gotten the first day as soon as they were on scene if not over the phone during the first phone call.

Police might have gotten the info, but probably not these new paramedics. You always have to answer these questions several times it seems.

 

[tarabull]

YES "THICK" woods!!!!!!!

 

[Warden23]

Like I know it's shady, I'm on board with you there tbh, but we don't do *everybody needs to know every whisper and fart* like America does. Not knowing these things isn't indicative of wrongdoing here. It's just how we do things, okay?

 

[AIGT]

I just don't get why it matters that she left. She's like 20 mins away at her mom's house. She needs support.

She left, cut off contact with the step dad and told the globe and mail that she is no longer in a relationship with him. I think in the end we will see that all of that mattered but I’ve been wrong before.

 

[MistyWaters]

The mom was most probably giving the ambulance/paramedics the kids' medical history. Are they diabetic, do they have allergies, have they had any surgeries, are you giving them any medications on a regular basis, autisim spectrum hmmm are you giving any medications for that, Lily had a cough ... were you giving any medications for that. They were expecting that the searches might locate the children at any time and they need this type of information.

This mention of an ambulance occurred on Day 2. Wouldn’t it be typical that medical information would be obtained near the beginning of the search? It’s not as if the Command Centre was miles away from the home.

 

[Andromeda]

Nobody else is telling us anything. I would never expect the RCMP to announce specific details of their investigation but the fact Daniel has mentioned it is interesting. If anything it indicates the investigation is broadening in scope and IMO that’s positive information.

It also explains why they are onsite, incase news reporters are still around.

 

[iamafiusny]

I just don't get why it matters that she left. She's like 20 mins away at her mom's house. She needs support.

I don't think it's a big deal she left, I doubt she'd be allowed to search. She should be with family.


And since it's reported she left with her mom and the infant and later asked for the police to bring her some stuffed animals it's possible there's some truth to the rumors she was asked to take the baby and leave.

Jmo

 

[otto]

I just don't get why it matters that she left. She's like 20 mins away at her mom's house. She needs support.

We don't know the reason that she left the family home. We don't know anything about where she is now except that she is with family.

Typically with a missing child, parents want to be home and to keep the outside light on in case the children find their way home again. I think it's unusual for the parent of a missing child to move away from that home one day after their child disappears.

 

[MistyWaters]

Thank you! I had not read that anywhere.
Still hadn't seen Jack by 10 am

Moo

Nope, obviously the stepdad didn’t see him by 10am. But I’ll admit the brown shirt and pants was mainly reported in the early days of this disappearance, and seemed to be erased from later media reports. Perhaps it was discovered DM believed incorrectly because that clothing was found in the laundry, don’t know, the deletion was never clarified that I noticed.

 

[GinaSeikwa]

Does anyone know how old MBS and Daniel are?

 

[Alice Ramnit]

Maybe she had panic attack.

That was my immediate thought!

 

[MistyWaters]

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Otherwise we’ve been told she’s had a relationship with DM for 3 years. Her missing children are 6 and 4 years old and as both have the last name of *Sullivan, she was likely with Mr Sinclair for at least 6 and more years ago. That suggests she didn’t just leave home yesterday, that she’s been independent from her family and community for a number of years. And while we don’t know her age, she’s old enough to have been a mother to three. It’s just some of her actions that has drawn questions in the very same way as scrutiny of DM. No doubt most of us cannot begin to imagine her utter heartbreak.

* last name corrected, Sullivan not Sinclair

 

[seasideForest]

Her missing children are 6 and 4 years old and as both have the last name of Sinclair, she was likely with Mr Sinclair

I presume you made a typo, but the children's name seems to be Sullivan, not Sinclair.

 

[Jw192]

Just caught up reading up and mannn

I can't see a good outcome here anyway I spin it. Either the kids have, as stated, done a wander and managed to evade every search effort - They're very likely gone due to the elements, length of time etc...
The kids done a wander and some creepo just so happened to be passing by that remote as heck area at that exact time and nabbed them - We all know how that likely ends up.
The kids didn't do a wander and they never left that house alive - I hate it.

I hate it. That when something like this happens and we hear the lines "off school sick" "I was sleeping"... It almost always ends up in court with either blubbering or stone faced parents and a forensic pathologist having to tell a jury details that will haunt their sleep for the rest of ever. I just hate it. I know we're victim friendly here until we're told differently by LE, but we've all heard it too many times now for our hinkey alarm to not go wootwoot.

I'm praying to the gods that they find these two bubs asap, miraculously alive (although I'm a realist) or so they can be put at rest.

Man

 

[MistyWaters]

I presume you made a typo, but the children's name seems to be Sullivan, not Sinclair.

Yes, my memory grabbed a name that started with a ‘S’, thank you for the correction. Sullivan it is

 

[mickey2942]

Agree yes I had a terrifying experience when my daughter was around 3 years. We were in a huge park with a friend and her boy and my son age 5 was also with me.
They were playing hide and seek but picture this is a huge park with a pond, road running through bar and restaurant huge oak trees everywhere. We were shouting and shouting her name but she thought she was brilliant at this game by keeping so quiet.
I was a complete mess there were so many hazards cars, strangers, dog walkers. I couldn’t think straight. Thank goodness my friend found her hiding inside a tree stump but was the worst 10 minutes of my life.
It only takes a second blink of an eye

Very true. This case, sadly reminded me of "Jaycee Dugard" who was kidnapped in California. The last person to see her was her stepfather. That man went through so much suspicion.

Jaycee Dugard's Stepfather Had "No Idea...We'd Find Her Alive"

Carl Probyn Saw His Stepdaughter Jaycee Lee Dugard Get Kidnapped, Now He is Speaking Out

www.cbsnews.com

 

[musicaljoke]

CBC has a good interview with an expert on why it is so difficult to find children in the woods.
From the article:
When a person that's being searched for is never found, what are usually the causes? Or can you ever know the causes of why they weren't found?

[...]

Another reason is while they're conducting the search, a split occurs in the area, so they didn't cover that particular chunk of territory. And the final reason is it can just be darn hard to spot people out in the woods sometimes. So all it can take is a second or two of looking to your left when you needed to be looking to your right to spot the subject. Especially with children, they can crawl into small tight places that are obscured from view, so they can be very difficult to find.

What does your app and your research … tell searchers to pay attention to when it's kids? What's different when you're looking for kids?

Probably that the hallmark with kids is even if you're shouting their name, they may not shout back because maybe they've been told not to speak to strangers, or they're just afraid of you, or they have an active imagination and they've turned you into Bigfoot or something.

They may think they're in trouble. So they may actively hide from searchers. And certainly we point out the fact that kids will crawl into thick underbrush. It may look impenetrable to you as the adult searcher standing up at five feet. But if you're down at between one and three feet, you may see a way to scramble underneath the brush and crawl into that. And that thick brush may provide … a certain amount of shelter to the child. So all those places needs to be searched. And that's a very difficult, time-consuming search.

more at: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/missing-person-expert-lansdowne-station-search-1.7531338

 

[iamafiusny]

They may think they're in trouble. So they may actively hide from searchers. And certainly we point out the fact that kids will crawl into thick underbrush. It may look impenetrable to you as the adult searcher standing up at five feet. But if you're down at between one and three feet, you may see a way to scramble underneath the brush and crawl into that. And that thick brush may provide … a certain amount of shelter to the child. So all those places needs to be searched. And that's a very difficult, time-consuming search.

more at: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/missing-person-expert-lansdowne-station-search-1.7531338
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Sbm


Scrambling under brush naked would be harder, which Jack most certainly would be. A pull-up will eventually fall right off.

And both kids would have to be too scared to ask for help, both would have to be in places they weren't visible to searchers.

We actually don't even know if they wandered off together. Maybe they went different directions.

Moo