CANADA Canada - Jack, 4 & Lilly Sullivan, 6, Vulnerable, wandered from home 10am, Gairloch Rd, Landsdowne Station, Pictou County, NS, 2 May 2025 #2

[AIGT]

Because kids that age are rarely entirely quiet, even when they are trying to. Complete radio silence is a red flag for all the parents as it usually means the little ones left the building or are very, VERY busy with something. And believe me, when they are that much busy you want to know immediately what occupies them so much. Jumping out of bed because there were no kid noises is one of the least concerning parts of that story, at least IMO.

I disagree. I’m looking at it in relation to his description of that whole morning. That claim doesn’t add up in my opinion.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I don't think it's that odd. Mine had one she brought everywhere for "treasures". It always had her Barbie and a bunch of rocks she liked in it.

I found nothing odd about it at all. As a mom to 6 girls, all of them had their favorite purse/bag/backpack that literally went everywhere with them.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I disagree. I’m looking at it in relation to his description of that whole morning. That claim doesn’t add up in my opinion.

If you have kids and they're suddenly far more quiet than they usually are, absolutely every parent I've ever known will say the exact same thing. That part of the morning as relayed by DM makes 100% sense to me.

 

[CityKid]

I’ve repeatedly read about the boots by the door. But the backpack is news to me.

It’s such an odd thing for a six year-old to grab to take out to the yard to play. I wonder if anyone bothered to check if she forgot her backpack on the bus ride home from school on Tuesday? Because it’s a given the kids would put their boots on to go outside and play. But attributing the “missing” backpack to what Lilly would be wearing is really odd, imo, because neither mom nor stepdad report seeing the kids leave the trailer/property.

“...Martell said Jack was wearing a pull-up diaper and Lilly was wearing a white backpack with red strawberries on it that should be highly visible. ..."

Missing children: Help the RCMP find Lily Sullivan and Jack Sullivan | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

I think "backpack" could cover a lot of definitions. As a kid I had a small drawstring bag I'd wear as a backpack that I carried my dolls in. It wasn't camping or schoolbook sized or heavy at all, just big enough for a couple of Barbies. MOO but I wish we had photos of the actual items the children were said to be wearing when they disappeared. I know the bus driver has talked about them; I wonder if he could speak to "Lily always had her little backpack with her" or something similar.

 

[MrsWatson]

Because kids that age are rarely entirely quiet, even when they are trying to. Complete radio silence is a red flag for all the parents as it usually means the little ones left the building or are very, VERY busy with something. And believe me, when they are that much busy you want to know immediately what occupies them so much. Jumping out of bed because there were no kid noises is one of the least concerning parts of that story, at least IMO.

Oh yes, the complete silence is when you know they are up to something they shouldn't be. For instance, the time my son stuffed all his Fisher Price people in the toilet while I was folding laundry ten feet away.

I don't find Lilly taking her backpack at all suspicious. My daughter had a little purse she took everywhere. She put all kinds of things she found interesting in it. A textbook behavior of children modeling what they see adults do; every time I left the house, I always had a bag with my important stuff in it.

moo

 

[AIGT]

If you have kids and they're suddenly far more quiet than they usually are, absolutely every parent I've ever known will say the exact same thing. That part of the morning as relayed by DM makes 100% sense to me.

Agreed in some situations.

100% disagree when it’s put in the full context of this situation. I hope I am wrong.

 

[dotr]

Assuming fingerprints/dna evidence was collected from the doors & windows just in case somebody quietly enticed the kids outside, then closed the exit way behind them? imo.

 

[AIGT]

Assuming fingerprints/dna evidence was collected from the doors & windows just in case somebody quietly enticed the kids outside, then closed the exit way behind them? imo.

Possibly, but maybe not considering RCMP’s strong stance against it being an abduction.

 

[Lucy6226]

Assuming fingerprints/dna evidence was collected from the doors & windows just in case somebody quietly enticed the kids outside, then closed the exit way behind them? imo.

Possibly, but maybe not considering RCMP’s strong stance against it being an abduction.

I would imagine that's one of the reasons they ruled out abduction. However, the families fingerprints would be all over the door and therefore not prove that the children opened or shut the door themselves. Moo

 

[Andromeda]

I found nothing odd about it at all. As a mom to 6 girls, all of them had their favorite purse/bag/backpack that literally went everywhere with them.

I’m viewing it from the perspective of age and purpose. At that age, the school bag is more a vehicle for ‘homework’, ‘art’ to transport safely home, lunches, classroom school supplies contribution, and the ‘Agenda’ used to communicate between teacher and parent. The parent typically packs it. The child “unpacks” upon arrival to school and passes along the Agenda to the teacher for response, etc. and puts their lunch box in their cubbie. The teacher will pack back the Agenda and i.e., birthday invites. The ownership is different. There is an unspoken ‘boundary’ of importance. Until the child gets a new backpack and the old one is repurposed for i.e., going to the pool in the summertime. From the first day when it is shopped for and chosen, the child understands it’s for school. That’s how it rolled when my kids were growing up.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I’m viewing it from the perspective of age and purpose. At that age, the school bag is more a vehicle for ‘homework’, ‘art’ to transport safely home, lunches, classroom school supplies contribution, and the ‘Agenda’ used to communicate between teacher and parent. The parent typically packs it. The child “unpacks” upon arrival to school and passes along the Agenda to the teacher for response, etc. and puts their lunch box in their cubbie. The teacher will pack back the Agenda and i.e., birthday invites. The ownership is different. There is an unspoken ‘boundary’ of importance. Until the child gets a new backpack and the old one is repurposed for i.e., going to the pool in the summertime. From the first day when it is shopped for and chosen, the child understands it’s for school. That’s how it rolled when my kids were growing up.

Since DM presumes Lily has her backpack with her, and no one has refuted that statement and LE haven't located it (that the public is aware of), my best guess is that while it might also be used the way you describe, she also uses it for her own personal little treasure holder, the way many little girls do.

 

[iamafiusny]

I’m viewing it from the perspective of age and purpose. At that age, the school bag is more a vehicle for ‘homework’, ‘art’ to transport safely home, lunches, classroom school supplies contribution, and the ‘Agenda’ used to communicate between teacher and parent. The parent typically packs it. The child “unpacks” upon arrival to school and passes along the Agenda to the teacher for response, etc. and puts their lunch box in their cubbie. The teacher will pack back the Agenda and i.e., birthday invites. The ownership is different. There is an unspoken ‘boundary’ of importance. Until the child gets a new backpack and the old one is repurposed for i.e., going to the pool in the summertime. From the first day when it is shopped for and chosen, the child understands it’s for school. That’s how it rolled when my kids were growing up.

I wonder if something actually happened Tuesday, the last day she went to school.

Moo

 

[AIGT]

Since DM presumes Lily has her backpack with her, and no one has refuted that statement and LE haven't located it (that the public is aware of), my best guess is that while it might also be used the way you describe, she also uses it for her own personal little treasure holder, the way many little girls do.

This is true but that only IF the kids just walked away.

 

[AIGT]

I wonder if something actually happened Tuesday, the last day she went to school.

Moo

In my opinion the timeline is very different than them going missing on Friday.
Tuesday afternoon is the last publicly verified sighting by someone other than Martell/MBM.

 

[TMich6811]

I’m viewing it from the perspective of age and purpose. At that age, the school bag is more a vehicle for ‘homework’, ‘art’ to transport safely home, lunches, classroom school supplies contribution, and the ‘Agenda’ used to communicate between teacher and parent. The parent typically packs it. The child “unpacks” upon arrival to school and passes along the Agenda to the teacher for response, etc. and puts their lunch box in their cubbie. The teacher will pack back the Agenda and i.e., birthday invites. The ownership is different. There is an unspoken ‘boundary’ of importance. Until the child gets a new backpack and the old one is repurposed for i.e., going to the pool in the summertime. From the first day when it is shopped for and chosen, the child understands it’s for school. That’s how it rolled when my kids were growing up.

Did I miss where it was stated this was a school only backpack?

 

[AIGT]

I wonder if something actually happened Tuesday, the last day she went to school.

Moo

I’ve been a part of many wilderness searches.
So many factors play in but I really think if they went missing Friday by walking away and were alive for at least 48 hours then the first K-9 unit would’ve likely got them.

We had a successful K9 track of two missing teens in a much more dense wilderness setting than this. 5 days missing and K9 tracked to them alive. The dogs are so good. In my opinion I think we will learn RCMP was already leaning a certain way when they decided to involve non RCMP personnel in the search ( not that those volunteers aren’t great at what they do).

 

[Ontario Mom]

Did I miss where it was stated this was a school only backpack?

No, it's never been stated as a school only backpack.

 

[iamafiusny]

In my opinion I think we will learn RCMP was already leaning a certain way when they decided to involve non RCMP personnel in the search

Sbm

I am of the same mind

Moo

 

[Andromeda]

Did I miss where it was stated this was a school only backpack?

No, I was responding to another member who described their personal experience around their kids’ use of bags, purses, etc. I contributed mine.

 

[MistyWaters]

I would imagine that's one of the reasons they ruled out abduction. However, the families fingerprints would be all over the door and therefore not prove that the children opened or shut the door themselves. Mooked

Did I miss where an abduction was ‘ruled out’ by police?