GUILTY Canada - Loretta Saunders, 26, Halifax, NS, 13 February 2014 #1

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He is not sure if she met the renters on Kijiji, an online advertising site, or was introduced to them by her boyfriend.(Loretta's brother Edmund)http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...ssing-aboriginal-women-disappears-in-halifax/

Do we know for sure that Loretta met VH and BL on Kijiji?
What attempts did Loretta's boyfriend of 2 and a half years make to contact her once he received the strange text on the 13th? Was he trying to phone her continuously with concern when that happened?....and a very long time to be reported missing.
Welcome, Margah! :greetings:

Thanks for the link.

I don't believe we have that confirmed 100%, but I could be wrong.
 
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...uld-open-canada-s-eyes-native-group-1.2553267

"The slaying of Loretta Saunders should shake the misconceptions many Canadians have about missing aboriginal women, says the president of the Nova Scotia Native Women’s Association.

“I think what society believes is a typical woman at risk is somebody working in the sex-trade industry, on drugs, mental illness, those types of things. But the fact is our women are disappearing and they’re not typically in the sex trade,” Cheryl Maloney told CBC’s Maritime Noon.

Police found Saunders's body on the edge of a highway west of Salisbury, N.B., on Wednesday afternoon, almost a week after she disappeared. Police are treating the 26-year-old's death as a homicide.

“She’s smart, she's beautiful, she’s bright. Her community was the university community. Canadians should be alarmed overall,” said Maloney.

“We shouldn't be growing up in a country where we are at risk to be missing and murdered more than anyone else.”


World News People fell in love with Loretta Saunders - YouTube
 
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This is the first mention I have seen of the amount of the back rent.

My apologies if it has been posted previously.
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Quote: The St. Mary’s University student was last seen on February 13 as she set off to collect $700 from a young couple living in her apartment, which she had rented out to pay bills after moving in with Mr Surkultay.
http://www.news.com.au/world/missin...canadian-highway/story-fndir2ev-1226840941577
 
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Thanks for the updates everyone.

Is it wrong that I'm happy someone yelled at BL in court? :)
 
  • #931
Thanks for the updates everyone.

Is it wrong that I'm happy someone yelled at BL in court? :)

No it is not wrong it does p#ss me off that she did not have to appear
 
  • #932
It's fantastic that the Canadian Government has contributed 25 million dollars towards reducing the number of missing or deceased aboriginal women in Canada. Obviously, it is working because although Loretta's disappearance was not reported for four days (Feb 13-17), once it was reported, it became a national story.

Loretta's disappearance was solved quickly and professionally. I can't see any fault finding in terms of the investigation. Police said that there was video surveillance of Loretta leaving the apartment, but only police and the murderers knew that the footage was her body leaving the apartment.

I mean absolutely no disrespect to Loretta or any missing women, aboriginal or not...

Victoria's case differs in a huge way from most aboriginal missing women cases, I don't believe they are even in the same class of missing person cases... Differences:
Loretta appears white, although she is Inuit
Loretta was a University student
Loretta was missing from Haifax, NS. Not a reserve
Loretta had family and friends looking for her, pushing the message out

Average missing aboriginal case in Canada:
Women is described as Native looking, dark hair / eyes
Women is missing from reserve area or rural area
No education or employment known
Family (in some cases) are not actively involved

So yes - my hope is that things change for all the missing aboriginal women in canada, however it is my opinion that Loretta can not be used as a true example.

I hope I don't get a ton of backlash for this post. :please:
 
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...uld-open-canada-s-eyes-native-group-1.2553267

"The slaying of Loretta Saunders should shake the misconceptions many Canadians have about missing aboriginal women, says the president of the Nova Scotia Native Women’s Association.

“I think what society believes is a typical woman at risk is somebody working in the sex-trade industry, on drugs, mental illness, those types of things. But the fact is our women are disappearing and they’re not typically in the sex trade,” Cheryl Maloney told CBC’s Maritime Noon.

Police found Saunders's body on the edge of a highway west of Salisbury, N.B., on Wednesday afternoon, almost a week after she disappeared. Police are treating the 26-year-old's death as a homicide.

“She’s smart, she's beautiful, she’s bright. Her community was the university community. Canadians should be alarmed overall,” said Maloney.

“We shouldn't be growing up in a country where we are at risk to be missing and murdered more than anyone else.”


World News People fell in love with Loretta Saunders - YouTube

While I agree with this statement... I believe that there are just as many women of all races that are going missing.

I think that the point that needs to be made is that no one is looking for the ones that are aboriginal. And that should change.

I am a Caucasian woman. There needs to be just as much fear for myself and my children. The difference I have noted is the way that they are searched for. I think that a community wraps itself around certain people and doesn't look for others.

I am from the same city as Noelle Paquette. There is a reserve very close by. This is not an issue that they are facing there.

This country is a mess. The tag team efforts of sick couples and groups of people is concerning.
 
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I mean absolutely no disrespect to Loretta or any missing women, aboriginal or not...

Victoria's case differs in a huge way from most aboriginal missing women cases, I don't believe they are even in the same class of missing person cases... Differences:
Loretta appears white, although she is Inuit
Loretta was a University student
Loretta was missing from Haifax, NS. Not a reserve
Loretta had family and friends looking for her, pushing the message out

Average missing aboriginal case in Canada:
Women is described as Native looking, dark hair / eyes
Women is missing from reserve area or rural area
No education or employment known
Family (in some cases) are not actively involved

So yes - my hope is that things change for all the missing aboriginal women in canada, however it is my opinion that Loretta can not be used as a true example.

I hope I don't get a ton of backlash for this post. :please:

I agree. She is not the norm. She is also a recovered addict. No one had lost hope on her yet.
 
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While I agree with this statement... I believe that there are just as many women of all races that are going missing.

I think that the point that needs to be made is that no one is looking for the ones that are aboriginal. And that should change.

I am a Caucasian woman. There needs to be just as much fear for myself and my children. The difference I have noted is the way that they are searched for. I think that a community wraps itself around certain people and doesn't look for others.

I am from the same city as Noelle Paquette. There is a reserve very close by. This is not an issue that they are facing there.

This country is a mess. The tag team efforts of sick couples and groups of people is concerning.

BBM - This! Exactly...
 
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I mean absolutely no disrespect to Loretta or any missing women, aboriginal or not...

Victoria's case differs in a huge way from most aboriginal missing women cases, I don't believe they are even in the same class of missing person cases... Differences:
Loretta appears white, although she is Inuit
Loretta was a University student
Loretta was missing from Haifax, NS. Not a reserve
Loretta had family and friends looking for her, pushing the message out

Average missing aboriginal case in Canada:
Women is described as Native looking, dark hair / eyes
Women is missing from reserve area or rural area
No education or employment known
Family (in some cases) are not actively involved

So yes - my hope is that things change for all the missing aboriginal women in canada, however it is my opinion that Loretta can not be used as a true example.

I hope I don't get a ton of backlash for this post. :please:

No backlash. My hope is that other families of missing aboriginal women use Loretta's case as an example of how to get out the message effectively. Loretta was an Inuit therefore an aborignal regardless of skin tone/hair color/etc. Her hair could have been green and a purple skin tone but she was still Inuit.

The missing/murdered aboriginal women in Canada need a voice and a very strong voice. The Friendship centre in Halifax (Ms. Maloney) gets a round of applause from me for all that she did to help get the word out about Loretta. We need to see more of that across Canada.
 
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No backlash. My hope is that other families of missing aboriginal women use Loretta's case as an example of how to get out the message effectively. Loretta was an Inuit therefore an aborignal regardless of skin tone/hair color/etc. Her hair could have been green and a purple skin tone but she was still Inuit.

The missing/murdered aboriginal women in Canada need a voice and a very strong voice. The Friendship centre in Halifax (Ms. Maloney) gets a round of applause from me for all that she did to help get the word out about Loretta. We need to see more of that across Canada.

yes... she is absolutely inuit.

Just not the stereotype.

Again, also a problem in Canada. But I think that the fact that she is not the stereotype has helped her. I am glad for that even though all the missing people should be looked for. With the same ferocity.

Her friends and family and inuit community helped so much to bring this to the forefront.

While I hope that we don't see a missing person for a while, I hope that people are taking notes about this case and the case of Noelle Paquette to show how to keep a loved one in the news and keep a search alive.
 
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...uld-open-canada-s-eyes-native-group-1.2553267

"The slaying of Loretta Saunders should shake the misconceptions many Canadians have about missing aboriginal women, says the president of the Nova Scotia Native Women’s Association.

“I think what society believes is a typical woman at risk is somebody working in the sex-trade industry, on drugs, mental illness, those types of things. But the fact is our women are disappearing and they’re not typically in the sex trade,” Cheryl Maloney told CBC’s Maritime Noon.

Police found Saunders's body on the edge of a highway west of Salisbury, N.B., on Wednesday afternoon, almost a week after she disappeared. Police are treating the 26-year-old's death as a homicide.

“She’s smart, she's beautiful, she’s bright. Her community was the university community. Canadians should be alarmed overall,” said Maloney.

“We shouldn't be growing up in a country where we are at risk to be missing and murdered more than anyone else.”


World News People fell in love with Loretta Saunders - YouTube

What this organization is saying now about aboriginal women is true about women from all walks of life. The women that Loretta wanted to research were murdered by aboriginal men within family and community.
 
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I mean absolutely no disrespect to Loretta or any missing women, aboriginal or not...

Victoria's case differs in a huge way from most aboriginal missing women cases, I don't believe they are even in the same class of missing person cases... Differences:
Loretta appears white, although she is Inuit
Loretta was a University student
Loretta was missing from Haifax, NS. Not a reserve
Loretta had family and friends looking for her, pushing the message out

Average missing aboriginal case in Canada:
Women is described as Native looking, dark hair / eyes
Women is missing from reserve area or rural area
No education or employment known
Family (in some cases) are not actively involved

So yes - my hope is that things change for all the missing aboriginal women in canada, however it is my opinion that Loretta can not be used as a true example.

I hope I don't get a ton of backlash for this post. :please:

I completely agree and I suspect that anyone that is aware of the history agrees too. Loretta's research was related to the murder of three aboriginal activists, two of whom were murdered by aboriginals and the third unsolved - although there is an "acquantance" suspect.
 
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Something occurred to me last night which I don't think I've seen mentioned on this thread. I'm sure it is a huge coincidence, but it gave me the chills when I remembered it.

Feb 14th marks the Global Day for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women (#MMIW). More info here.

tcg
 
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