Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #10

[Lexiintoronto]

Nipissing District OPP, EMS, and Highway Maintenance Live Audio Feed

Anyone listening to the police scanners? Is the Nipissing District OPP feed the correct one for the ‘Ford’ incident?

 

[LadyL]

They're prolly down in Acapulco smoking big fat cigars, drinking iced orange juice on the beach, and watching the muy simpatico senoritas. And chortling at all the huffing and puffing of the Mounties.

with what money?

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

I don't think you realize how rural that area is. It took police four hours to get to a double murder scene! Think about that. I'd hazard a guess that you could stand on that road for an hour in the middle of the night and not see a single vehicle. And there is likely a reason the couple decided to sleep in the van rather than attempt to get help when they broke down, there is no help.

That said, I wonder if the boys came across the broken down van and thought it was an easy mark for a quick robbery, not realizing the occupants were sleeping inside. When surprised by what looks to be a very fit Lucas Fowler, they opened fire. They fled and came up with a plan to disappear across country, which they couldn't do in their broken down old truck, so they found and killed Dyck simply for his vehicle.

I very much agree with the bottom part of what you’ve said but I am confident there would be semi trucks driving through at all hours of the night. I know this for sure. I’m sure they were aware of this-the only place “to go” at that point (we know it was for sure after 8:00 and most likely after 11:30 pm from witnesses), there is the Liard Hot Springs Lodge (you can look it up online). They have a small number of very overpriced rooms, the kitchen has the weirdest hours and would have been closed also. I am honest not even sure if at night there is anyone downstairs to check anyone in (that happens in their kitchen area). And the other place is directly across there and it’s the actual Liard Hot Springs. There are huge metal gates and giant boulders on each side so you can’t get around and they would 100% be closed so really they had nowhere to go that was any better (or so they thought) than where they were.

 

[Cdndadeh]

Completely out there thought of the day. I find it weird all three “confirmed” spottings end in LAKE

Cold lake
Meadow lake
Split lake


...

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

Can you show him this photo where you can see the keys better?

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A mysterious sighting in the Manitoba manhunt—and then the trail goes cold - Macleans.ca

Is that a leather man knife? And do you know where I can see the other key pictures. I googled but can’t find them.

 

[sprucetip]

I very much agree with the bottom part of what you’ve said but I am confident there would be semi trucks driving through at all hours of the night. I know this for sure. I’m sure they were aware of this-the only place “to go” at that point (we know it was for sure after 8:00 and most likely after 11:30 pm from witnesses), there is the Liard Hot Springs Lodge (you can look it up online). They have a small number of very overpriced rooms, the kitchen has the weirdest hours and would have been closed also. I am honest not even sure if at night there is anyone downstairs to check anyone in (that happens in their kitchen area). And the other place is directly across there and it’s the actual Liard Hot Springs. There are huge metal gates and giant boulders on each side so you can’t get around and they would 100% be closed so really they had nowhere to go that was any better (or so they thought) than where they were.

Plus -weren't they 20km away from the hot springs? They're not likely to walk that. And may not have even know how much further it was ahead (unless there are signs nearby stating distance?). I concur about trucks all night, I live further north on the Alaska highway and the daytime traffic is CRAZY (ok, for northern standards, cars every few minutes!) and doesn't stop overnight. It slows but doesn't stop. Many people driving are on a mission - Alaskans going south, southerners moving to Alaska or Yukon, Yukoners going south shopping. This large group of travelers does not stop at 6pm.

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

Is that a leather man knife? And do you know where I can see the other key pictures. I googled but can’t find them.

Never mind-I asked my mechanic friend off the pict you posted and didn’t say why I was asking or what they’re from and he instantly said a Toyota.

 

[Xyzzia]

Yeah I do agree that dad is probably a bit hyperbolic. He also may be projecting. And I truly dislike the term "Blaze of glory" in this context.

There's nothing glorious about murder, suicide or attempted murder. But dad seems to think there is. It almost seems like a suggestion from him.

Is this something he's felt like doing in the past?

I've gotten to the point now where I don't even pay attention to anything that Bryers father says. Especially after the whole book thing.
I think his 'situation & chatterings'
is iall about him and not about his son at all.

 

[Gardenista]

Never mind-I asked my mechanic friend off the pict you posted and didn’t say why I was asking or what they’re from and he instantly said a Toyota.

TY. Re: your other post, yes, it is a Leatherman.

 

[Gina20]

Completely out there thought of the day. I find it weird all three “confirmed” spottings end in LAKE

Cold lake
Meadow lake
Split lake


...

There are lakes all over up north.

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

Plus -weren't they 20km away from the hot springs? They're not likely to walk that. And may not have even know how much further it was ahead (unless there are signs nearby stating distance?). I concur about trucks all night, I live further north on the Alaska highway and the daytime traffic is CRAZY (ok, for northern standards, cars every few minutes!) and doesn't stop overnight. It slows but doesn't stop. Many people driving are on a mission - Alaskans going south, southerners moving to Alaska or Yukon, Yukoners going south shopping. This large group of travelers does not stop at 6pm.

Absolutely! Just IMO I would believe they were killed in the very early morning hours of July 15 and were found within a few hours. And of course it was a trucker that spotted them. There is no way you wouldn’t have seen the crime scene while driving by in any direction. It’s like a darn spotlight when you come around from the south corner.
I do love hearing all these theories and ideas. A lot of smart people on here with good intentions!!! Keep them coming!

 

[afitzy]

Someone asked the question about how its possible to travel for long distances without been seen. Its interesting if the 2 suspects made it to No. Ontario after their prior cross country trek. I am trying to figure out how these 2 (if not dead of course) could have possibly done another long trek with no confirmed reports.

Don't know the gas bar/station situation in remote areas so have a question.

Do stations keep their pumps on 24/7 even if the station might not be staffed? I know policies on this vary by location and some countries permit it and other don't allow it, so wondered if it would be possible to schedule gas stops when people simply weren't around and stations were unstaffed? I know this wouldn't avoid the camera issue but unless someone is looking at the overnight footage then who is to say who was at the station overnight?

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

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TY. Re: your other post, yes, it is a Leatherman.

This just more bizarre by the minute. Why would they leave a leather man? The keys, I can see wanting to get rid of those so you’re not found with them on you (even though at this point it wouldn’t much matter). Honestly this whole thing boggles my mind. I think they’ve had nothing but lucky which people are confusing with skill/experience. I think their scared to death and that’s whats keeping them hanging on. Like running on Adrenalin almost. That can’t last forever but I think they’re still alive in the bush and aren’t moving much anymore. They’ll come out soon. IMO

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

Someone asked the question about how its possible to travel for long distances without been seen. Its interesting if the 2 suspects made it to No. Ontario after their prior cross country trek. I am trying to figure out how these 2 (if not dead of course) could have possibly done another long trek with no confirmed reports.

Don't know the gas bar/station situation in remote areas so have a question.

Do stations keep their pumps on 24/7 even if the station might not be staffed? I know policies on this vary by location and some countries permit it and other don't allow it, so wondered if it would be possible to schedule gas stops when people simply weren't around and stations were unstaffed? I know this wouldn't avoid the camera issue but unless someone is looking at the overnight footage then who is to say who was at the station overnight?

I thought you could only fill up after hours if you use a credit card which they wouldn’t be able to. I think they’re out of money and weapons and food.

 

[LadyL]

what's a leatherman?

 

[Sheila Terranova]

I'm of the same mind set. I think that Kam and Bryer did leave looking for work, things didn't go as they wanted and they veered off path. Seriously off path.QUOTE)

Moo..
..i realize it's not exact but it still sounds like the game of Rust to me. Go forth into the wilderness, make your own off the grid tools etc, kill your opponents for gain.[

 

[Diezelmonster]

Went to work today, I live in Ontario as I've stated before, not one single co-worker had heard of this case even though it's a full on multi-province manhunt and all over national news.

Anyhow lots of local chatter now even though I am many hundred of kilometers away from the alleged sightings. (889km)

I really hope it's not a bunch of hoaxes and more of the LE time gets spent on these leads.

At this point it's not far fetched to think that they have not been in MB for a few days. They perhaps have been laying low and only traveling at night.

They may have multiple gas cans, we never saw video of them "filling up" at gas stations? All speculation.

 

[10ofRods]

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Someone asked the question about how its possible to travel for long distances without been seen. Its interesting if the 2 suspects made it to No. Ontario after their prior cross country trek. I am trying to figure out how these 2 (if not dead of course) could have possibly done another long trek with no confirmed reports.

Don't know the gas bar/station situation in remote areas so have a question.

Do stations keep their pumps on 24/7 even if the station might not be staffed? I know policies on this vary by location and some countries permit it and other don't allow it, so wondered if it would be possible to schedule gas stops when people simply weren't around and stations were unstaffed? I know this wouldn't avoid the camera issue but unless someone is looking at the overnight footage then who is to say who was at the station overnight?

Great points. And I keep wondering what kinds of cameras these places have. If they have them. Some send dozens and dozens of motion-activated .mov files per day - who looks at those? Even if there are fugitives, some workers are just not going to look. Others just record the files and no one ever even gets a notification. Then they re-record in 48 hours.

Someone would have to be really dedicated to viewing all that CCTV footage daily, I"d think. Gas station attendants don't really do that.

 

[Allgoodusernamestaken]

Went to work today, I live in Ontario as I've stated before, not one single co-worker had heard of this case even though it's a full on multi-province manhunt and all over national news.

Anyhow lots of local chatter now even though I am many hundred of kilometers away from the alleged sightings.

I really hope it's not a bunch of hoaxes and more of the LE time gets spent on these leads.

At this point it's not far fetched to think that they have not been in MB for a few days. They perhaps have been laying low and only traveling at night.

They may have multiple gas cans, we never saw video of them "filling up" at gas stations? All speculation.

It’s shocking to me how anyone in Canada could not have heard about this by now! But I don’t usually watch the news either so I can’t really say much

 

[BearCatSafari]

Someone asked the question about how its possible to travel for long distances without been seen. Its interesting if the 2 suspects made it to No. Ontario after their prior cross country trek. I am trying to figure out how these 2 (if not dead of course) could have possibly done another long trek with no confirmed reports.

Don't know the gas bar/station situation in remote areas so have a question.

Do stations keep their pumps on 24/7 even if the station might not be staffed? I know policies on this vary by location and some countries permit it and other don't allow it, so wondered if it would be possible to schedule gas stops when people simply weren't around and stations were unstaffed? I know this wouldn't avoid the camera issue but unless someone is looking at the overnight footage then who is to say who was at the station overnight?

Pumps get turned off at night. Otherwise we'd all be filling up in the middle of the night for free.