Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #10

[CanadianMade]

I need proof from the school or the government. Why would you trust an article in this case?

I don't.
I don't trust anything I have read in the media and I have stated that on numerous occasions now. I was asked for the link which why I posted it.

 

[MistyWaters]

Well, if someone else drove by after the silly boys committed three murders, they would just happen to come across three murdered people...

Yes those silly boys indeed! You’ve reminded me of this Maclean’s article, the writer’s opinion that society has a tendency of infantilizing young white men who commit murder. Word of the day - infantilizing!

Who gets to be a 'teen' and a 'good kid'? - Macleans.ca

 

[otto]

If not, then it gives the impression that Canada is filled with crazy lawbreakers, which is not the case. At all.

But my desire to see a bit more information (carefully managed) is precisely to avoid these impressions, which don't help. For example, RCMP could say, "we have some information from cameras to show who might be on the Alaskan Highway at those times and we continue to use that information to identify suspects. K&B are still suspects." That would be if there is, in fact, one camera at the south end of the route. If there's not a camera at the south end of the route (as some here have said there is), then the public can react by asking for more cameras (as happened in the Kenzie Lueck murder).

The public cannot ask the police to do its job better, if the police pretend that everything is as good as it gets.

Everyone knows that the USA wants and gets all the juicy details before trial while everyone in Canada is patient because the process is more important than rubber necking. There has been a lot of information because this is a manhunt. As soon as there is an arrest, additional charges will be added and then silence until preliminary hearings and trial.

 

[gitana1]

I work in VA Hospitals, where those without this "strength of mind" end up. So I beg to differ. The mental health issues of military recruits are far higher than those of the general population (and data for that goes back for a century). So the military ejects people that don't fit its "strength of mind" rubric, but no one in the public is required to use the same rubric.

The military is not evil, but neither is it a model of strong mental health qualities. MOO.

I agree that 18-19 year olds with military pretensions are a hazard. I deal with them daily.

Listen. Let me make it as clear as possible. Over and over we see young killers and mass murderers who fancy themselves to be cops or military but they don't even have the ability or stability to enlist or join or if they can manage that, to stay in long.

Again, they fancy themselves entitled to an authority and respect they don't deserve and haven't worked for. They tend to feel entitled to it but in reality they tend to be sociopathic, cowardly and disturbed wanna be's. Deep down they know this and they're enraged by it.

Finally, there is a huge difference between someone broken from the ravages of war and someone too cowardly, inept and weak to even try to enlist or to be able to get through basic training.

And I never said that 18-19 year olds with military pretensions are a hazard. I said those who are wanna' be's who didn't even have what it takes to enlist can be, when they feel they're entitled to the honors without doing the work. Please don't put words in my mouth in order to start an ideological debate about the military. I'm not getting sucked into that.

 

[gitana1]

That's in the US. What is Canada's version of the Miranda decision? Or do they have a law?


Not "to win an acquittal." Yes, people get convicted late. But in this case and this case only, it could become a sticking point. Maybe I'm jaded by O.J., but minor issues involving police became major ones, due to the general attitude that "the public" developed during the trial. People can also develop attitudes during manhunts.

Reasonable doubt can be deposited in many ways. If there really is scant evidence (and there may be - there may be no DNA, there may be no traceable weapon, only the fact that the pair were on the same highway and later committed a crime - a crime with an apparently different MO) and then, on top of that, the RCMP has not shown that there's enough on them for charges, it will mean a more drawn out trial.

And at some point, drawn out trials can be an issue. BTW, I don't know anything about Canadian juries. Do they have to be unanimous?

What makes this case and this case only substantially different from the thousand and thousands of cases where charges are somewhat delayed or incredibly delayed?

I don't see anything unique enough to cause a problem.

LE in general in North America tends to be tight lipped before an arrest and in Canada continually until trial. That means nothing about the strength of the case or the possible outcome, IMO. It's the smart way to go.

 

[MistyWaters]

Sorry, I missed this reply.
I posted a link to an article stating that the last time someone saw B and his father together was at his graduation.
I can find it again if you haven't seen it?

All grade 12 students are invited to graduation ceremonies and often they’re held well before the end of the school year. That the father attended ceremonies isn’t proof B successfully completed grade 12. Nobody is excluded from the ceremonies or otherwise identified an outcast, unless they choose to be. It’s the proof of the diploma that proves one graduated, not the ceremonies.

Whether B graduated or not, as somebody already mentioned, only the school and the Province of BC know for sure because they hold the records.

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is closed until tomorrow or UNLESS there is breaking news in this case.

Media, Maps, Timeline *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[Sillybilly]

This thread is closed and Thread #11 is open for discussion.