Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #11

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I can't quote what people who live in FSJ are saying because SM. Not everyone is feeling safe.
 
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Not to belabour the book thing but do regular people just up and write a book about their lives to be published for the whole world to read? I can see a bit of a biography to pass down to your future generations at some point might be a valid reason. I guess its not the fact that he wrote the book but the timing of its release was terrible and I question his motives. Someone should have advised him not to do that.
Yes, they do! Self-publishing has really opened up who writes books. A lot of talented writers who don't have marketable books use it, but a lot of people who have no real writing skills and no real story to tell use it too. If you're willing to pay, the self-publishing world is willing to play! It doesn't surprise me that he thought he had a story to tell, long before his son was a suspect, and decided to put it down on paper. But, yes, someone should have told him to delay the release indefinitely. If he had a traditional publisher, they likely would have done so. But since it is self-published, all decision-making is ultimately up to him.
 
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From the MB RCMP Facebook page:

Aug 6/19 15 min ago

As the search for Kam Mcleod and Bryer Schmelgsky continues, we are able to provide the following update.

On August 3, 2019, RCMP located several items on the shoreline, approximately 9 km from where the burnt vehicle was located. RCMP have confirmed that these items are directly linked to the suspects. That same day, a damaged boat was also found along the Nelson River.

Based on this information, RCMP Underwater Recovery Team (URT) were immediately deployed. On August 4, 2019, URT conducted a thorough underwater search approximately 29 metres around the location where the boat was found. The search did not uncover any additional items linked to the suspects.

The roadblock on PR 290 has been removed, but officers remain in the Gillam area.

To ensure the integrity of the investigation, no further information about the items will be provided at this time.

ETA: date/time of post

Austin Grabish‏Verified account @AustinGrabish

Breaking: The Manitoba RCMP say they have found several items on a shoreline in northern Manitoba linked to B.C. homicide suspects Kam Mcleod and Bryer Schmelgsky. More to come. #cbcmb

12:31 PM - 6 Aug 2019 pst
I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I hope this means they're on their trail! Would love to know if this is stuff that looks like it has been out in the elements for a couple of weeks or if it is new.
 
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From the MB RCMP Facebook page:

Aug 6/19 15 min ago

As the search for Kam Mcleod and Bryer Schmelgsky continues, we are able to provide the following update.

On August 3, 2019, RCMP located several items on the shoreline, approximately 9 km from where the burnt vehicle was located. RCMP have confirmed that these items are directly linked to the suspects. That same day, a damaged boat was also found along the Nelson River.

Based on this information, RCMP Underwater Recovery Team (URT) were immediately deployed. On August 4, 2019, URT conducted a thorough underwater search approximately 29 metres around the location where the boat was found. The search did not uncover any additional items linked to the suspects.

The roadblock on PR 290 has been removed, but officers remain in the Gillam area.

To ensure the integrity of the investigation, no further information about the items will be provided at this time.

ETA: date/time of post

Very interesting! That tells us that after burning the vehicle, they maybe wandered around a bit and ended up on the shore of the river. That makes it far more likely that they stole a boat and flipped in the rapids - could be in the Hudson Bay by now.
 
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RCMP Manitoba‏Verified account @rcmpmb
On Aug 3, several items directly linked to the suspects were found on shoreline, 9km along the Nelson River. RCMP Underwater Recovery Team did not find additional items. Roadblock on PR 290 has been removed, but officers remain in the Gillam area. #rcmpmb http://rcmp-grc.ca/57147

12:30 PM - 6 Aug 2019 pst
Finally a break for them. I was wishing this morning they would at least find something the Roadblocks going up were interesting and glad all the mass media is out of there except our 2 females from Globe & Mail.
 
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I wonder if police are looking at the possibility that they returned to the site of the burned vehicle after RCMP were in the area.
 
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Yes, they do! Self-publishing has really opened up who writes books. A lot of talented writers who don't have marketable books use it, but a lot of people who have no real writing skills and no real story to tell use it too. If you're willing to pay, the self-publishing world is willing to play! It doesn't surprise me that he thought he had a story to tell, long before his son was a suspect, and decided to put it down on paper. But, yes, someone should have told him to delay the release indefinitely. If he had a traditional publisher, they likely would have done so. But since it is self-published, all decision-making is ultimately up to him.
Thanks for the clarification :-)
 
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I wonder if police are looking at the possibility that they returned to the site of the burned vehicle after RCMP were in the area.
I bet they did! And then ate half of that pork chop!
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
 
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Very interesting! That tells us that after burning the vehicle, they maybe wandered around a bit and ended up on the shore of the river. That makes it far more likely that they stole a boat and flipped in the rapids - could be in the Hudson Bay by now.
It's possible that both occurred: they were on the shore of the river (leaving evidence behind), and also stole a boat and flipped in the rapids.
 
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Melissa Tait‏Verified account @meltait
A bear ambled across the road beyond the roadblock on PR 290 in Northern Manitoba, where the police continue their search for B.C. triple murder suspects Bryer Schmegelsky and Kam McLeod. I'm here with @RenataDAliesio + our news colleagues + bears #canadamanhunt #canadianmanhunt

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9:30 AM - 6 Aug 2019 pst
 
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For anyone who wasn't here yesterday, we crowd sourced these locations for the car and boat.

Red star is car, yellow star is boat
I obviously found a different creek crossing the road, far away from the real Sundance Creek.
 
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I bet they did! And then ate half of that pork chop!
(Sorry, couldn't resist)

I bet they did return to the vehicle to collect food or something that would help them survive in the area.
 
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wow, so they only made it 9km by boat?
 
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Map of their quite obvious escape route from Saskatchewan border to Split Lake and Gillam.
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Map of their quite obvious escape route from Saskatchewan border to Split Lake and Gillam.
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Creeps me out to know they drove right past my grandparents' place. There's one stretch of highway between Meadow Lake and the road to Manitoba that they had to have taken (quite literally the only route).
 
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Very interesting! That tells us that after burning the vehicle, they maybe wandered around a bit and ended up on the shore of the river. That makes it far more likely that they stole a boat and flipped in the rapids - could be in the Hudson Bay by now.
On Google Maps it looks like there is a big dam between that location and the Hudson Bay. From my (very limited!) experience of river searches, there is quite a bit of science to locating a person or thing in a river. They can analyse the conditions and make a pretty good guestimate of how far someone might have floated or swam or where a submerged body may resurface. I would assume the LE have someone doing this which is how they chose the location for the divers to do their thing.

I am revisiting my theory that they left Gillam before anyone knew they were there. That seems less likely in light of the new information. Let's hope this is the big break everyone has been waiting for.
 
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