CANADA - Lucas Fowler & Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #6

[otto]

It doesn't seem likely to me that he moved the registration from BC to Alberta, though. That can be a costly process on an older vehicle. And I don't think you can insure an out of province vehicle for an extended period of time.

How do we know he bought the vehicle in BC?

It was published early on by several news outlets.

"The footage shows the young couple pulling in at a service station in Fort Nelson, British Columbia at 7.30pm on July 13. Mr Fowler is driving the blue Chevrolet van he bought from a cattle ranch where he had been working. He had fixed it up especially for the road trip he had been planning with Ms Deese."​

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...-australian-lucas-fowler-20190723-p529qe.html

 

[steelybird]

I went back and watched the video again of the van fill up, it may have been posted earlier but is there any footage of the guy in black who enters the store when they first arrive at the gas station? It appears to me that there is a bit of an issue at the beginning with either a pin number or the card used to pay at the pump, lucas then goes to front of van and is discussing something with chynna as the guy in black exits the store.. im wondering if its at all possible that she told lucas her pin number the guy in black (possibly Kam) heard and they figured easy cash hit..

Yeah I noticed him having an issue at first as well.

 

[Estrojane]

As much as I pity Alan S. and his mental health problems; he seems to be going a bit haywire from stress at the moment. I have to wonder where Bryer got the idea, as per the article in the Globe and Mail(I think!), that harassing gaming opponents until they quit, using personal information he gleened on them, was an okay strategy to implement? Did he learn this by observing his father, since harrassment was one of his father's strategies used against the boy's mother ?

"The father of one of the teenagers at the centre of a nationwide manhunt was charged with harassing his estranged wife, according to court documents."

Or is it some genetic aberration in normal thinking that got passed down from father to son?

 

[copkid]

!! $80 million for the loss of his father when he was an adult? Is that how he lured his wife into thinking he was rich?

Something about this Father does not feel right to me?? JMO

 

[Gina20]

I just notice that there is not one word from either mother. I could try to speculate why, but the silence is deafening, IMO.

I think with young men this age, in distress, that at some point one or both of them would want their mother, especially after an injury. This could be the key to bringing them out of the bush. Drop leaflets with a mother's message, go in with a recorded message and blare it in the woods? I don't know how this would work, but maybe it would have, if done sooner.

Not a critique of anyone, just a statement of how young men's minds normally work in normal situations. Which these are not. MOO. No more to say on this element.

 

[Kubirai]

I have searched high and low for a confimation that Leonard Dyck was in fact killed by a firearm. One mention in Australian media but I cannot find any confirmatiin from a Canadian source. So at this point I am not certain if a firearm could be the connection? Can you provide a Canadian source that indicates LD was in fact shot?

WS rules ... but we can assume that ballistic match linked all 3 victims, and possession of the RAV4 of victim #3 linked to the 2 suspects.

 

[SnooperDuper]

!! $80 million for the loss of his father when he was an adult? Is that how he lured his wife into thinking he was rich?

Pretty stunning since the max payouts under the tainted blood class action were about $250,000.

Victims of Canada’s tainted blood scandal to share $207M compensation fund surplus

I don't know that the wife actually thought he was rich or was to become rich. I think the guy is a little on the paranoid side and he might not be the most accurate story teller. He still has an axe to grind against his wife.

 

[otto]

I do not see this as an unusual decision. Maybe it got dark and they felt it was safer to stay put. Maybe they just wanted to cuddle together under the stars and start their journey in the morning. Likely no cell service where they were, a tow truck would cost a fortune when that far away from any major centre. As the parent of a young world traveller, I see absolutely nothing unusual about this decision.

A question for Australians : when stranded with a disabled vehicle on the side of a highway 4 hours from the nearest populated area, is it common for people from New South Wales to stay where they are for 8 hours and then decide to camp out at that location?
(see: New South Wales: Belanglo)

 

[scrappinkat]

WS member 'mtnstream' has noted that BS followed a YouTuber called "pewdiepie" and this is noteworthy for being mentioned by MSM in relation to the mass shooter in New Zealand recently. It's only a connection and who knows, probably nothing.

Pewdiepie has over 95 million subscribers. I think it’s nothing.

 

[SiciC]

Every morning when I wake up for the last few days I check the news thinking, they had to have found something new by now.. And nope! Then I come here and have 40 new pages to catch up on, lol. How can these guys elude such a massive search. I said it before but I think someone is possibly aiding them in hiding. If they're out in the woods without fresh water and food, exposed to the elements, they're probably deceased by now... Anyways, still catching up on the last few pages.

 

[minorone]

I thought the same thing until I looked closer, then I realized it’s a full fibreglass shell (not cheap) I did some searching on classified sites and even a mid 1980s still sells for about 3500 cad or 2500 usd.

I think most people would be suspicious of purchasing a camper from an 18 and 19 year old in a remote location. If you purchase something from someone other than the registered owner, you would need to return the item to the rightful owner and you could only recover the funds from the person you paid the $$$ to. The camper would need its own comprehensive and collision coverage or an endorsement adding it on the vehicle insurance. I would want to have ownership and registration verified independently.

 

[Gardenista]

Melissa Tait
@meltait
On Sunday the RCMP will continue to focus the search from the air, with the CF aircraft and a helicopter, a few ATVs on the ground. The weather is getting dark and stormy today.
12:33 PM · Jul 28, 2019

 

[Kubirai]

Yes, they would need to continue south on Highway 37 down to Highway 16 and then head east.

In an earlier post, I mentioned a twisted route that takes them from Chetwynd to Hudson's Hope, to check out the ranch of the victims.

But they probably headed to Alberta from Chetwynd. Anyway, they didn't go north to Liard River again, based on sighting in Cold Lake.

 

[missy1974]

If the vehicle was stranded at 3:30PM and still stranded at 11:30PM, then the problem was not a flooded engine. I don't understand why a couple in a broken down vehicle, 4 hours from the nearest populated area, did not act with more urgency. Sure, they were on vacation and it was nice scenery, but was that a tourist decision or something they would do at home?

I get the impression, from what little I know about the 2, that they were in no rush. If they had food and water and a place to sleep, they were probably more than content to wait until the next day and either call for help or wait for someone to stop. I recall that someone saw them sitting in lawn chairs by the van, seems like they were relaxed and not really worried about it. Not everyone is in a rush to get where they are going, especially at this time of year in my experience, and especially in BC. JMO

 

[Peace777]

Last night, comments were open on the DM article about the book. This morning, they are closed. Interesting.

Father of teen Canadian murder fugitive tries to hijack media frenzy to publicize his new book | Daily Mail Online

Comments were open on CBC articles about this case before and now they too are closed up. At least on the last few that I've read. I even came and pointed out on here to go and look at some of them now you can't?

 

[afitzy]

From July 25th update from Australian reporter (News9Sydney) on the scene in Gillam. The footage (taken between Gillam and Fox Lake) clearly shows the challenges of the terrain both for LE and the 2 suspects. Also the reporter makes clear that the location of the RAV4 fire is between 2 key roads out of the area (to Gillam and to Winnipeg).

Nine News Sydney on Twitter

 

[Deleted member 248860]

@meltait The weather is getting dark and stormy today.

Gillam weather, 12 minutes ago, more thunderstorms...

 

[Herat]

I think most people would be suspicious of purchasing a camper from an 18 and 19 year old in a remote location. If you purchase something from someone other than the registered owner, you would need to return the item to the rightful owner and you could only recover the funds from the person you paid the $$$ to. The camper would need its own comprehensive and collision coverage or an endorsement adding it on the vehicle insurance. I would want to have ownership and registration verified independently.

Speaking of the camper....

Have we ever heard who the legal owner was?

Did a family member give it to them?

It seems to be too expensive for them to have purchased with their meager Walmart wages.

 

[Elley Mae]

I think "empty" means abandoned.

Probably right, I was remembering the ex cop (dorner)(california) entered an empty home and it caught fire with him inside.

 

[Gardenista]

Comments were open on CBC articles about this case before and now they too are closed up. At least on the last few that I've read. I even came and pointed out on here to go and look at some of them now you can't?

Somebody posted an article last night about the government warning workers not to talk. The reporter tweeted she is also having trouble getting non-government workers to talk. She said, in her experience, this his highly unusual. I'm not sure WTH is going on with this.