Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

[stan laurel]

Could Shannon have bought non-expensive liquor at Lolita's Lounge in Inglewood until 2AM?

unlikely and wouldn't have to as she could pay normal prices at a liquor store. why pay double for booze?

 

[otto]

how did she get back from Edmonton? did she drive? did she bring someone down and drop them off to meet up later? did she even go to lolitas? yuk yuks? the shamrock?

Presumably she drove home from Edmonton ... what was the status of her car brakes at that time? She missed the Yuk Yuks evening (was she too late?), but she apparently did leave home without her phone at 12:30AM Nov26 2014 ... presumably to meet a friend in comedy, a friend from the casino, a friend from work (did she work outside of actor and comedy?), Lolita's or Yuk Yuks Comedy Club? No one saw her after she was at home, with her phone, keys, wallet, and ... "estranged" husband?

Something's wrong with this picture.

 

[otto]

unlikely and wouldn't have to as she could pay normal prices at a liquor store. why pay double for booze?

So she didn't walk to Lolita's at 12:30AM to buy off-sales ... if she went there, it was to either drink alone or hope to meet up with another regular.
... without a phone

 

[dennisfedak81]

Did her estranged husband see her exit the home? What did he do immediately upon her exit? How did they meet? Who was paying the bills?

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Just to play the devil's advocate........maybe her phone was dead (battery needed charging) and as such he wouldn't have ever heard it ringing. Going one step further, if phone dead and he never heard it ringing, maybe he didn't even know for some time that she had left it behind? If they're estranged and living in the same place, it's entirely possible they each had separate sleeping areas..eg) her the main bedroom, him the guest room or sofa...and as a result she kept her personal belongings such as phone in a place he didn't go/see. Lastly, many couples who are separated remain living in the home due to costs. Right now the rental vacancy rate is very very low in Calgary, and rental prices are crazy high. If they were merely sharing the same place for this reason, it's possible that each was "doing their own thing" and no longer letting each other know their plans/when or where they were going.....so her being gone for a few days maybe didn't seem to be out of the ordinary to him. Who knows, maybe their relationship/marriage was on the rocks because she'd met someone else? Or maybe it was common for her to spend as little time at their shared place just due to the awkwardness of them being estranged so it wasn't out of the norm for her to be gone for a few days at a time without telling him where she was going/when she'd be back.

Maybe the reason she went somewhere and didn't take her phone with her was because her battery was dead? I know my iPhone no longer holds a charge for very long and half the time I go to grab it when I leave the house and it's totally dead........which isn't a big deal if I'm driving somewhere (and can charge it in my vehicle)......but if someone was picking me up to go somewhere and I couldn't charge it, I wouldn't obviously take a dead phone with me, there'd be no point.

I see that the police cautiously proceeded from the beginning, doing their jobs and ruling out some possibilities prior to making a press statement with Shannon's sister as the family spokesperson. When they held a press conference, it seemed like police were asking the public if they saw anything in the area that night. It's clear that she was last seen at 12:30AM at home, after driving home from an audition in Edmonton. We know that her "estranged husband" with whom she may live, did not report that she was missing even though her cell phone was at home. He did not contact anyone about that fact. Instead, he went about business as usual, and did not even bother to answer concerned calls from Shannon's family on Monday until after he had left work. She had been missing since late Wednesday night ... five nights later she was reported missing.

When her phone rang for all those missed appointments, what did he do? Did he push her phone under a sofa pillow, did he scrutinize who was calling ... what did he do Thursday and Friday, and what did he do on the weekend?

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

My guess would be that family members of someone missing would be reluctant (or instructed not to divulge such info by LE) to share such info, particularly of a mental health nature (eg: depression, anxiety, etc) out of fear that doing so would then cause people to suddenly jump to conclusions and assume the person had some kind of breakdown and left of their own accord/wanted to get away and not be found......and then people would no longer be vigilant/keeping a lookout for the person/reporting any possible sightings or info to LE. IMO

I wonder why she wouldn't answer? I get that medical history and issues are personal and private but sometimes helpful to determine a person's state of mind. I guess if LE or the family didn't feel it pertinent to finding her, I guess they don't have to disclose that to the public. Curious though if there is anything to be concerned about...

 

[dennisfedak81]

Was SB engaged in any other entrepreneurial activities? So often there is a desire to live young, wild and free. She didn't want to be controlled by anyone. However, eventually the realities of the high cost of housing, food, transport, drugs and partying hit home. To raise money a young woman like this may be forced to make some difficult choices. I wonder if she made some wrong choices? Some very wrong choices.

 

[ep2002]

I assume they mean in regards to the fact that she is not spending her own money (no credit card activity)

 

[dennisfedak81]

Perhaps she found some guy offering to be a Sugar Daddy and is enjoying breakfast and champagne on a yacht off the bc coast. No one would see her and no need to access her likely paltry financial resources.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

An interesting comment for sure. Is it possible that it was meant in another way, aside from a phychiatric issue - Perhaps she meant that because she had not accessed funds, how would she eat or look after herself? Is someone helping her financially? Just a thought.

You're right News, this could be interpreted as a reference to her not having money. But strange, since she had her wallet! Very confusing…there might be more to this story that we're not aware of, but what?

 

[Lalalacasbah]

I'm curious why she'd leave with a wallet and keys. How many women on here would leave with their wallet but no purse? I know not all women use purses, Shannon might be the type to not have a purse, I could see it.

I'm curious if she had/used a purse. If she has a purse, but only took a wallet, to me that signals she was just running somewhere quick. If she doesn't have a purse and only carries a wallet, it could be her going anywhere.

 

[ttcRider]

If I was running somewhere quick I probably wouldnt bring my purse and I would just stick my debit card in my pocket... If I were to bring my wallet I may as well just bring my purse. shrug Sometimes theres just no figuring us out. hahaha

 

[otto]

Just to play the devil's advocate........maybe her phone was dead (battery needed charging) and as such he wouldn't have ever heard it ringing. Going one step further, if phone dead and he never heard it ringing, maybe he didn't even know for some time that she had left it behind? If they're estranged and living in the same place, it's entirely possible they each had separate sleeping areas..eg) her the main bedroom, him the guest room or sofa...and as a result she kept her personal belongings such as phone in a place he didn't go/see. Lastly, many couples who are separated remain living in the home due to costs. Right now the rental vacancy rate is very very low in Calgary, and rental prices are crazy high. If they were merely sharing the same place for this reason, it's possible that each was "doing their own thing" and no longer letting each other know their plans/when or where they were going.....so her being gone for a few days maybe didn't seem to be out of the ordinary to him. Who knows, maybe their relationship/marriage was on the rocks because she'd met someone else? Or maybe it was common for her to spend as little time at their shared place just due to the awkwardness of them being estranged so it wasn't out of the norm for her to be gone for a few days at a time without telling him where she was going/when she'd be back.

Maybe the reason she went somewhere and didn't take her phone with her was because her battery was dead? I know my iPhone no longer holds a charge for very long and half the time I go to grab it when I leave the house and it's totally dead........which isn't a big deal if I'm driving somewhere (and can charge it in my vehicle)......but if someone was picking me up to go somewhere and I couldn't charge it, I wouldn't obviously take a dead phone with me, there'd be no point.

I suppose so. Perhaps her phone was dead when she went out. In any event, if she made plans, there would be a trace of that on her phone, and it's clear that nothing on her phone has led to her location.

I recall reading somewhere that one of the most dangerous times for a woman is during a divorce. Divorcing couples that continue to live together for financial reasons are probably making one of the biggest mistakes of their lives. Given that Shannon has family in Calgary, and she is young, it shouldn't be too much of a burden to her parents if she moved home while everything was sorted out. Regardless ... too late for any of that.

I sincerely hope that her husband had nothing to do with her disappearance, and I sincerely doubt that she is voluntarily missing. That leaves only one other possibility: someone has taken her - meaning there's an evil person walking the streets of Calgary.

 

[dennisfedak81]

A 17 year old girl was recently forcibly abducted by a couple of creeps in the Ne. Could this be a similar incident. Could she.be held somewhere subject to unspeakable horrors? I sure hope not and I hope it's not her husband. I like the yacht scenario much better!

 

[otto]

A 17 year old girl was recently forcibly abducted by a couple of creeps in the Ne. Could this be a similar incident. Could she.be held somewhere subject to unspeakable horrors? I sure hope not and I hope it's not her husband. I like the yacht scenario much better!

Indeed. The names, and photos of the arrested men, suggest First Nation men are responsible. Perhaps there should be a national inquiry into First Nation men targeting non-First Nation Canadian women.

"Corey George Manyshots, 25, and his brother Cody George Manyshots, 21, have each been charged with sexual assault causing bodily harm, assault causing bodily harm, kidnapping, uttering threats and robbery.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/17-yea...al-assault-in-calgary-1.2105011#ixzz3Lidp4if6

 

[dennisfedak81]

There are no shortage of creeps in Calgary and women do need to take precautions. SB hopefully did not become a victim to one of them. Apparently she was involved in Role Playing. Is there any chance one of their members could have taken things too far? I do not know alot about it but could such group attract people who may be socially isolated? I apologize if I am being presumptions to all the role players out there, but am just suggesting this as a possibility. For an unstable individual, could the line between fantasy and reality become unclear?

 

[dennisfedak81]

It may have been covered but I also wonder if SB had a stalker. She was in entertainment and undisputably an attractive girl. I'm sure Cps is investigating this. Alot of women tell me single men in Calgary tend to try harder than those in other places. Maybe there is something to this and she encountered someone she rejected or just met who took things too far.

 

[otto]

It may have been covered but I also wonder if SB had a stalker. She was in entertainment and undisputably an attractive girl. I'm sure Cps is investigating this. Alot of women tell me single men in Calgary tend to try harder than those in other places. Maybe there is something to this and she encountered someone she rejected or just met who took things too far.

Shannon's sister was asked about the possibility of a stalker at the press conference ... she said that she and Shannon had joked that someone had made it big when there was a stalker ... but Shannon either didn't have a stalker, or wasn't aware of it. It's certainly possible that someone was particularly interested in her and she didn't respond as that person wanted ... that could lead to a problem.

 

[otto]

There are no shortage of creeps in Calgary and women do need to take precautions. SB hopefully did not become a victim to one of them. Apparently she was involved in Role Playing. Is there any chance one of their members could have taken things too far? I do not know alot about it but could such group attract people who may be socially isolated? I apologize if I am being presumptions to all the role players out there, but am just suggesting this as a possibility. For an unstable individual, could the line between fantasy and reality become unclear?

There was an Ottawa case a year ago where the couple was involved in medieval role play, the marriage was on the rocks, and the wife was allegedly out for a drive when she vanished ... the story unravelled and the husband was charged. There were usual relationships between the couple and those they interacted with through their role play group.

"Howard Richmond, 50, of Winchester, Ont., was charged in the death of his wife Melissa Richmond, 28, whose body was found in a ditch on July 28. Richmond made his second court appearance Tuesday via video and he remains in custody.

The Richmonds were members of a historical group called the Society for Creative Anachronism, which is dedicated to recreating events from the Middle Ages."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/soldier-accused-of-murder-owned-medieval-type-weapons-1.1393263

 

[dotr]

An article about LARP, ( the fantasy game previously mentioned as one SM may have been involved with) in Toronto..

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/02/19/how-to-larp/
How To: LARP

Megan O'Toole | February 19, 2011


"In one hypothetical example, several volunteers dressed as goblins would run into Jericho — the game’s central town, set up most recently as a campsite in rural Ontario — and snatch the mayor’s daughter. Players could then decide what to do: attack the goblins, negotiate the girl’s safe release, or perhaps join forces with the goblins to take over the town.

During game weekends, the story runs 24 hours a day, and players are required to remain in character the entire time, sleeping whenever they dare. Combat, which occurs using padded “boffer” weapons, can deplete a player’s “body points,” which are subsequently replenished as that player gains more experience. But if the tally hits zero, the player dies — a development that can be highly emotional for some, forcing them to create a new character.

“When you play a character for five years, it’s like a second you, and then it’s gone,” Mr. Ashby says.

Adds Ms. Rodé: “People have come and said it was too real.”