Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #1 *Arrest*

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  • #801
http://www.babynamesofireland.com/aengus
Note the post above SB 's last post.Why did DL just randomly post the name Aengus.It seems that SB was replying to this......? The poster of this comment has a " blank" Facebook page.
 
  • #802
http://www.babynamesofireland.com/aengus
Note the post above SB 's last post.Why did DL just randomly post the name Aengus.It seems that SB was replying to this......? The poster of this comment has a " blank" Facebook page.


IMO It was not random at all. The poster is heavily involved in the LARP world. This name fits right into the stories they study.

I believe that SB's comment about funzies was her talking about the fact that she no longer has that someone to come in and sort out /fix her problems... I.e. The husband checks the brakes. I think the other posters know Josh and the dynamics and were playing off that. I wonder if either of the men offered to look at her brakes for her? Who would she have called for help with that... A friend? Brother? Father? The ex?
 
  • #803
Rumours abound online, as a public weaned on television detective shows speculates over the meaning of the strange photos.

Madill says that’s all to be expected, but she does address the rumours Burgess’ estranged husband might be involved in her disappearance.

“We’re friendly with him and there’s no animosity at all — and he and my sister still get along quite well,” said Madill.

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http://www.calgarysun.com/2014/12/1...areness-to-missing-calgary-womans-case-sister

The above respectfully snipped by me.

What I don't understand about the above statement is why was the divorce described as "Messy" if they get along so well?
 
  • #804
SHANNON MADILL
December 18, 2014 12:14 pm
Photos found in Fish Creek Park not related to missing Calgary woman

MELISSA RAMSAY By Melissa Ramsay
Online Reporter Global News

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Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th.
Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th.
Calgary Police Service handout
CALGARY – Police have determined a bizarre discovery in Fish Creek Park is not connected to the disappearance of a missing Calgary woman.

Photos of a woman were discovered attached to trees in the provincial park earlier this week.

Officers were alerted to the pictures by Fish and Wildlife officers, and spent two days scouring the area for clues.


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Strange photos were discovered in Fish Creek Park, in south Calgary. Strange photos found in Fish Creek Park investigated by Calgary police
Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th. Toronto and Vancouver police join search for missing Calgary woman
Erin Madill asks for the public's help Friday, in finding younger sister Shannon who's missing. Family and friends grow concerned over missing Calgary woman
Global News
On Thursday, police announced that after a throughough investigation they had determined the pictures were part of an art project, and not related to the disappearance of 25-year-old Shannon Madill (Burgess).

Madill was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 a.m. on Thursday, November 27th.

Her family later reported her missing on December 1st.

The woman pictured in the photos had her face covered by flowers and her hair, so investigators were unable to immediately tell if it was Madill.

Anyone with information on Madill’s whereabouts is asked to contact Calgary police or Crime Stoppers.

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  • #805
Hmmmmmmm
CTVNews.ca Staff
Published Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:18PM EST
Police in Toronto and Vancouver are joining the search for a missing Alberta woman after Calgary police received information that she may be in one of those cities.
Shannon Madill (Burgess), 25, was last seen by a family member at her Calgary home around 12:30 a.m. on Thursday, Nov. 27, police say. She was reported missing on Monday, Dec. 1, after she was supposed to meet friends and family the day before, but failed to show up.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/missin...-vancouver-police-say-1.2147586#ixzz3MGdkJsZK
 
  • #806
The above respectfully snipped by me.

What I don't understand about the above statement is why was the divorce described as "Messy" if they get along so well?

Agreed, and to me the magic word in EM's quote it 'quite'.

Not 'they get along great' or 'they get along fine' or 'they get along ok' which is what I think I would say if asked about two people. If I was answering this about two people where tension might be involved I might say 'they get along pretty good' and the magic word being 'pretty' which changes the context somewhat.

When I hear 'quite well' I think 'quite well considering……' JMO
 
  • #807
IMO It was not random at all. The poster is heavily involved in the LARP world. This name fits right into the stories they study.

I believe that SB's comment about funzies was her talking about the fact that she no longer has that someone to come in and sort out /fix her problems... I.e. The husband checks the brakes. I think the other posters know Josh and the dynamics and were playing off that. I wonder if either of the men offered to look at her brakes for her? Who would she have called for help with that... A friend? Brother? Father? The ex?

Sounded like a personal LARP joke between two or a few people for sure. And you're right, maybe there was someone else she called to help with her brakes.

Here's the wiki for Aengus as well for anyone curious:
"In Irish mythology, Óengus (Old Irish), Áengus (Middle Irish), or Aengus or Aonghus (Modern Irish), is a member of the Tuatha Dé Danann and probably a god of love, youth and poetic inspiration. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aengus
 
  • #808
SHANNON MADILL
December 18, 2014 12:14 pm
Photos found in Fish Creek Park not related to missing Calgary woman

MELISSA RAMSAY By Melissa Ramsay
Online Reporter Global News

7
1



Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th.
Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th.
Calgary Police Service handout
CALGARY – Police have determined a bizarre discovery in Fish Creek Park is not connected to the disappearance of a missing Calgary woman.

Photos of a woman were discovered attached to trees in the provincial park earlier this week.

Officers were alerted to the pictures by Fish and Wildlife officers, and spent two days scouring the area for clues.


RELATED

Strange photos were discovered in Fish Creek Park, in south Calgary. Strange photos found in Fish Creek Park investigated by Calgary police
Shannon Madill (Burgess) was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 27th. Toronto and Vancouver police join search for missing Calgary woman
Erin Madill asks for the public's help Friday, in finding younger sister Shannon who's missing. Family and friends grow concerned over missing Calgary woman
Global News
On Thursday, police announced that after a throughough investigation they had determined the pictures were part of an art project, and not related to the disappearance of 25-year-old Shannon Madill (Burgess).

Madill was last seen by family at her home in the 1900 block of Spiller Road S.E. around 12:30 a.m. on Thursday, November 27th.

Her family later reported her missing on December 1st.

The woman pictured in the photos had her face covered by flowers and her hair, so investigators were unable to immediately tell if it was Madill.

Anyone with information on Madill’s whereabouts is asked to contact Calgary police or Crime Stoppers.

Report an error

Okay, so photos not related to SB's disappearance, that's good news!
 
  • #809
After spending the morning reading every post in this thread, digging around in her FB, her husbands FB , her family members FB and assorted friends FB pages, plus watching the news videos here is my 2 cents ...the relationship with the husband is strained to say the least. I think they were perhaps making a point of using the apartment / house at opposite times. For example she would be there when he was at work etc. My first impression of him, I see him as a negative person who likes to still play in make believe.
As for why no phone with her, I think it was an argument and she ran or he had the phone when she hastily left. If she left that is. ( It reminds me of a case we had here in NS where the young woman had no cell with her when she disappeared. Her friends stated she couldn't find it when she was heading out for the night. However her bf said it was on the counter and that she had forgotten it. When explaining why he had it and used it that night. I always liked him for involvement even though another was charged )
The role playing aspect feels like part of this whether it was her husband and perhaps a friend or just someone else from the game that was jealous. Or what if someone wanted to make a fantasy come to life ?
The pictures found make it seem even more that way. ( if indeed they are her)
The deliberate skating around medical issues at the presser by the police was interesting, as was the redirect attempt regarding activity they were watching.
I would agree with others here that there may be a bipolar or depression issue going on here, but I don't see suicide at all.
I noticed in one post on her sister's wall on Dec 2, she states that S had been missing since Friday, however in later posts changes it to Wed night/ Thurs early AM. So as of Tues the 2nd she obviously had been told something different by the husband. Fri not Wed/Thur. A small thing but maybe not.
I don't think she just up and walked away to ON or anywhere else. I feel that sadly the game became all too real.

Holding on to hope though, as her family is, that she is out there somewhere alive and well.
 
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What if they were doing the different time thing at the home and she arrived home unexpectedly ? He might have been ' entertaining ' when she arrived home. The other person leaves and a row erupts. An act of the moment occurred and he had to make it look like she just left ? So toss the keys and wallet somewhere. He keeps the phone because he cant find it at the time or because she may have texts on it that he wants seen. Could also be afraid of it leading to her. The other person is scared to come forward. Just tossing out ideas.
A random act of violence just doesn't feel right here. JMO
 
  • #812
What if they were doing the different time thing at the home and she arrived home unexpectedly ? He might have been ' entertaining ' when she arrived home. The other person leaves and a row erupts. An act of the moment occurred and he had to make it look like she just left ? So toss the keys and wallet somewhere. He keeps the phone because he cant find it at the time or because she may have texts on it that he wants seen. Could also be afraid of it leading to her. The other person is scared to come forward. Just tossing out ideas.
A random act of violence just doesn't feel right here. JMO
Yes... the "other person" might be afraid that JB, the Jackrabbit Barbarian, may come after him or her with his styrofoam Carrot Warhammer.
 
  • #813
The above respectfully snipped by me.

What I don't understand about the above statement is why was the divorce described as "Messy" if they get along so well?
Precisely. With the husband being okay with her being gone without contact for 4-5 days, and others saying it's "out of character"... there are definitely mixed messages out there. They might want to clear some of that up before it falls off radar because the whole issue is dismissed as too flaky by the public.
 
  • #814
If the husband is not responsible or involved I think :
a) he went to bed at 12:30 and wasn't sure if she went out that night or not
b) she may have kept in touch with a sibling or family more so than her hubby, so not seeing her for those days did not alarm him.
c) her phone was left in a place he did not see it until he went searching (her own room etc.)
d) in this scenario, she either
i) left that night and something happened to her by someone she knew or an aquaintence, but more than likely not at random
ii) decided on her own to leave (which I don't think she would let her family suffer this long
iii) had an accident
e) if she is diseased, I feel she will be found in the river most likely or secondly outside the city.
d) committed suicide, which I'm not 100% feeling

MOO all my opinion
 
  • #815
If the husband is responsible or involved I think:
a) She is more than likely diseased
b) he probably used his car to take her somewhere - so I'm wondering if they searched his car
c) she still is probably in the river or outside the city
d) he was jealous, or not wanting the relationship to end
e) it was a crime of passion
f) he didn't take the cell phone as to not track her or himself
g) took some of her stuff to make it look like she left on her own.

MOO All my opinion.

As I write that out, I am actually really feeling that the husband is probably NOT responsible...but I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time. (totally intuitionally based)
The reasons I feel like this is because, he is not acting weird enough for other people (ie her family) to feel suspicious. Its seems like the very obvious thing, and this case seems anything but obvious, and just a feeling. Although I'm not a fan of him from 'reading' him from pictures etc. (my first impressions etc.) I just don't think he's crazy enough to be able to pull this off and not even have the family speculating for 3 weeks that it could be him. All that said, maybe they are just not saying what they are really saying. I don't know.

PS - I keep the right to change my mind about the above. lol
 
  • #816
Looks like the photos were not related to the case. To me, this refocuses suspicion on the husband. Moo
 
  • #817
Isn't it possible that for Shannon and her biological family and *close* friends, it is out of character for her to disappear without contacting any of them.... while at the same time, since she is separated from JB, it could be quite common for her to not bother sharing her plans and whereabouts with him, keeping him out of the loop, with her not wanting to feel 'controlled', and he would be none the wiser as to whether she was uncharacteristically not in contact with her family and friends? To me it makes sense.

Because they are separated, it all makes sense. If they were not separated, none of it would make sense and he would definitely be under suspicion for not letting anyone know he hadn't heard from her in days. But if it were a common occurrence recently because of their marital status, how can he be held responsible for her not sharing her plans with him, as most people with consideration would do if they resided within the same household?

I doubt if JB was playing the 'let's only live in the house one at a time' game, because while it might be simple for SB to find a couch to crash on in Calgary or Edmonton at her fellow aspiring actors' places, it isn't usually something a regular, everyday, steady-job type of person would want to be involved in, IMHO.

Personally, at this point I can't help feeling a little bad for JB because I have heard of these 'let's separate and lead separate lives, but still live in the same house' type of deals, and it seems to me that the person wanting to leave, is the one that usually wants to remain: 'I'm leaving you, but I'll still live in the same house, and we'll lead our separate lives and I'll do whatever I feel like doing, and therefore make life hell for you, while still being able to keep my eye on what YOU'RE doing.' Ugh! Who would agree to that? That opinion is based on personally knowing people who have done exactly that type of arrangement, and other people who have wanted to do that, but where the one 'being left' has said, 'no I don't think so, if you're leaving, then just leave'.

Precisely. With the husband being okay with her being gone without contact for 4-5 days, and others saying it's "out of character"... there are definitely mixed messages out there. They might want to clear some of that up before it falls off radar because the whole issue is dismissed as too flaky by the public.
 
  • #818
I agree, that is like a 'quite well, considering they are separated and yet continue living in the same home.', or even like a, 'quite well, considering they are separated'.

Agreed, and to me the magic word in EM's quote it 'quite'.

Not 'they get along great' or 'they get along fine' or 'they get along ok' which is what I think I would say if asked about two people. If I was answering this about two people where tension might be involved I might say 'they get along pretty good' and the magic word being 'pretty' which changes the context somewhat.

When I hear 'quite well' I think 'quite well considering……' JMO
 
  • #819
I really would have hoped that LE would have given a little more detail in why they feel the photos in the trees were not related. Saying so little, leaves room for doubt, like, 'how do you know?'.. and 'are you sure?'.. like if some artistic group came forward and said, 'ya, we were out there playing at the park and posting our artistic photos of people with their faces blurted out but with flowers in their hair, all in the trees, it was such great fun.. then ok. But did someone come forward? If not, then how can they be sure?
 
  • #820
Apparently, the pictures were part of an art project:

"The artists did proactively came forward to us and provided the information about their project. They were very apologetic and understood that it has caused a great
deal of concern." - CPS

- From the CPS FB Comment section.
 
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