Found Deceased Canada - Shannon Burgess, 25, Calgary, 26 Nov 2014 - #3 *Arrest*

[otto]

Communication has evolved since the times of "good gosh golly gee... they just vanished off the face of the earth".

I am reminded of rerun TV shows like "Emergency" and "Dragnet" that use such vague and misleading descriptives of such serious events.

SB was last reported seen at that location, and that is where the ambiguities, and drama should end.

If Shannon's disappearance was a TV show, we would know what happened to her one hour after she vanished from her home.

 

[Tricia]

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[Lalalacasbah]

Although not fully understood or completely proven, it is thought antidepressants can cause weight gain, among other side effects. I wonder if she had any weight issues.

Could be, also did we find out if she was a smoker? If she quit smoking to get healthier, she might've gained weight as well.

And they say eating disorders are one of the hardest disorders to manage as there is no cure, and it's extremely psychological. I wouldn't dare assume Shannon had this, but I feel it's okay to discuss as a possibility to help understand if she was sick and needed help.

 

[evafiore]

Could be, also did we find out if she was a smoker? If she quit smoking to get healthier, she might've gained weight as well.

And they say eating disorders are one of the hardest disorders to manage as there is no cure, and it's extremely psychological. I wouldn't dare assume Shannon had this, but I feel it's okay to discuss as a possibility to help understand if she was sick and needed help.

It is evident (messy divorce, possibly unstable employment, possible shakeup of living arrangements due to separation) that she was under stress. This combination of factors would be potentially stressful and lead to weight gain. Eating disorders aren't connected with actual weight as much as they are one's PERCEPTION of control over their life and body.

She could very well have been caught up in loss of control over her life, as well as weight gain due to the stress of the factors in her life. If this were indeed the case, it's understandable why her sister stated that she may be distressed, and commented on who was feeding her.

 

[otto]

It is evident (messy divorce, possibly unstable employment, possible shakeup of living arrangements due to separation) that she was under stress. This combination of factors would be potentially stressful and lead to weight gain. Eating disorders aren't connected with actual weight as much as they are one's perception of control over their life and body.

She could very well have been caught up in loss of control over her life, as well as weight gain due to the stress of the factors in her life. If this were indeed the case, it's understandable why her sister stated that she may be distressed, and commented on who was feeding her.

Per the press conference, Shannon is 5'6" and she weighs 130lbs. That sounds completely normal. Where does the issue of eating disorders and weight problems come from?

 

[dotr]

Per the press conference, Shannon is 5'6" and she weighs 130lbs. That sounds completely normal. Where does the issue of eating disorders and weight problems come from?

Shannon is a lovely, fit- looking woman, but as an aspiring actress, it would not be unusual, imo, for her to have those concerns. Does not mean she had them of course, just speculation.

http://www.celeb-height-weight.psyphil.com/

"Celebrities height and weight chart – Celebrity stats"

 

[otto]

Although Shannon may have lamented about her weight, 130 lbs for her height and age is perfectly normal.

"According to [female] height of 5' 6" ideal healthy weight is 139 pounds. Recommended weight range is between 123 and 154 pounds.
This was calculated using Hamwi formula, a simple formula commonly used by many clinicians."

http://www.healthstatus.com/perl/calculator.cgi

 

[news.talk]

Although Shannon may have lamented about her weight, 130 lbs for her height and age is perfectly normal.

"According to [female] height of 5' 6" ideal healthy weight is 139 pounds. Recommended weight range is between 123 and 154 pounds.
This was calculated using Hamwi formula, a simple formula commonly used by many clinicians."

http://www.healthstatus.com/perl/calculator.cgi

Her weight and whether it is normal has no bearing on whether she has an eating disorder. She could be 90 pounds and still regard herself as "fat" - That is why it is considered a disorder.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Per the press conference, Shannon is 5'6" and she weighs 130lbs. That sounds completely normal. Where does the issue of eating disorders and weight problems come from?

I think I read it somewhere.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

If Shannon suffered from gluttony, anorexia, or bulimia nervosa at the time that she vanished, how does that relate to the fact that she vanished from her home in the middle of the night?

It was more a thought in reference to her being in any type of mental distress.

If she was 'living healthy' for a long period of time, then relapsed, was feeling fragile, or that she may have disappointed people or down on herself this might cause her anxiety. Stress, anxiety, OCD, depression are interwoven illnesses, so one thing might trigger the other and eating disorders fall under the mental illness umbrella (last night I checked, persons with eating disorders are admitted to the psych wards of hospitals, things might've changed in the last few years though).

*If* she suffered from this, it might snowball into or lead to a depressive state. I'm not saying this is a fact obviously, just my opinion and I'm trying to keep an open mind in case no foul play is involved.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Iirc, in the early days of this case, they were looking for evidence that Shannon might have been at any of the local restaurants or clubs, like Lolita's.
Wonder if anything was found that would change the location of " the last confirmed sighting "?

And if they find anything that points to those locations, LE is keeping it quiet for some reason. It would be interesting to know...

 

[news.talk]

Why would Shannon be in distress? She was in a staged, open-marriage with a man that shared her interest in medieval role playing games. She had just been to Edmonton to audition for a part, and where she saw many friends. She had plans to go to the theatre on Wed and Sun. Her sister stated that Shannon may be in distress ... which is true of most missing persons.

But, moving on, if she were depressed and practicing poor eating habits, what does that tell us about the reason that she is missing?

Can you provide a link that states, that when she was in Edmonton, she saw MANY friends?

Also, a link stating that her marriage was "staged"? Lots of people are in loving, open relationships.

 

[Coldpizza]

Knock it off in here, a few of you may find your selves on the outside looking in if it doesn't stop.

 

[otto]

Can you provide a link that states, that when she was in Edmonton, she saw MANY friends?

Also, a link stating that her marriage was "staged"? Lots of people are in loving, open relationships.

The marriage appears staged. They seem to have decided on a whim to get married, and they both seem to be involved with other people during their short marriage. Somehow I doubt that they were in a loving, open marriage given that the short lived marriage was damaged to the point of divorce essentially before it began.

I've linked the press conference several times already, but here it is again. Shannon's sister states at about 8 minutes:

"My sister was a very outgoing, very social girl. She very much enjoys spending time with friends, and even the previous weekend, when she was in Edmonton, there are so many people that were hanging out with her" .

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=507836

 

[news.talk]

The marriage appears staged. They seem to have decided on a whim to get married, and they both seem to be involved with other people during their short marriage. Somehow I doubt that they were in a loving, open marriage given that the short lived marriage was damaged to the point of divorce essentially before it began.

I've linked the press conference several times already, but here it is again. Shannon's sister comments on "my sister was a very outgoing, very social girl. She very much enjoys spending time with friends, and even the previous weekend, when she was in Edmonton, there are so many people that were hanging out with her" at about 8 minutes in.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=507836

If you go to her Facebook, you will see many pictures of them depicting a very loving couple. There are also playful and loving comments to each other. According the Shannon on her Facebook, they were living together for over a year prior to marriage. They strike me as a happy, loving couple. Take a look at her profiled relationship in the link below and tell me your thoughts.

https://m.facebook.com/shanswer.nsfw.1?tsid=0.7622950826771557&source=typeahead

ETA: According to your link, she hung out with friends the previous weekend, not on her last trip before her disappearance.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

The marriage appears staged. They seem to have decided on a whim to get married, and they both seem to be involved with other people during their short marriage. Somehow I doubt that they were in a loving, open marriage given that the short lived marriage was damaged to the point of divorce essentially before it began.

I've linked the press conference several times already, but here it is again. Shannon's sister states at about 8 minutes:

"My sister was a very outgoing, very social girl. She very much enjoys spending time with friends, and even the previous weekend, when she was in Edmonton, there are so many people that were hanging out with her" .

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=507836

All indications are that they were together for an extended period before the actual ceremony, were dating, and in fact advertised they were both in a relationship.

Marriages on a whim happen daily, and not because they are staged. Perhaps it was done to invigorate or save the relationship... or even as a demonstration of commitment.

It doesn't make sense to divorce so quickly if they didn't care about being married in the first place. Counter intuitive perhaps...

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

"Stressful life events can trigger bipolar disorder in someone with a genetic vulnerability. These events tend to involve drastic or sudden changes—either good or bad—such as getting married, going away to college, losing a loved one, getting fired, or moving."

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/bipolar-disorder/bipolar-disorder-signs-and-symptoms.htm

There are many reasons why a marriage can fail shortly after the ceremony besides being "staged".

 

[news.talk]

Just to expand on the polyamory - Many people in loving marriages, have different rules about exclusivity... In fact some might argue, that it is the open relationship componants that strengthens the marriage:


People who identify as polyamorous typically reject the view that sexual and relational exclusivity are necessary for deep, committed, long-term*loving relationships. Those who are open to, or emotionally suited for, polyamory may embark on a polyamorous relationship when single or already in a*monogamous*or*open relationship.*Sex*is not necessarily a primary focus in polyamorous relationships, which commonly consist of people seeking to build long-term relationships with more than one person on mutually agreeable grounds, with sex as only one aspect of their relationships. In practice, polyamorous relationships are highly varied and individualized according to those participating. For many, such relationships are ideally built upon*values*of trust,*loyalty, the*negotiation*of*boundaries, and compersion, as well as overcomingjealousy, possessiveness, and the rejection of restrictive cultural standards.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory

 

[otto]

If you go to her Facebook, you will see many pictures of them depicting a very loving couple. There are also playful and loving comments to each other. According the Shannon on her Facebook, they were living together for over a year prior to marriage. They strike me as a happy, loving couple. Take a look at her profiled relationship in the link below and tell me your thoughts.

https://m.facebook.com/shanswer.nsfw.1?tsid=0.7622950826771557&source=typeahead

ETA: According to your link, she hung out with friends the previous weekend, not on her last trip before her disappearance.

We know that Shannon was in Edmonton on the weekend and that she had an audition in Edmonton on Wednesday. I'm assuming that she went to Edmonton on the weekend to visit friends, that she stayed for the audition, and that she returned home after the audition ... so yes, when I say that she saw many friends when she was in Edmonton for her audition, I am including the few days prior to the audition where she was already in Edmonton.

 

[otto]

Just to expand on the polyamory - Many people in loving marriages, have different rules about exclusivity... In fact some might argue, that it is the open relationship componants that strengthens the marriage:


People who identify as polyamorous typically reject the view that sexual and relational exclusivity are necessary for deep, committed, long-term*loving relationships. Those who are open to, or emotionally suited for, polyamory may embark on a polyamorous relationship when single or already in a*monogamous*or*open relationship.*Sex*is not necessarily a primary focus in polyamorous relationships, which commonly consist of people seeking to build long-term relationships with more than one person on mutually agreeable grounds, with sex as only one aspect of their relationships. In practice, polyamorous relationships are highly varied and individualized according to those participating. For many, such relationships are ideally built upon*values*of trust,*loyalty, the*negotiation*of*boundaries, and compersion, as well as overcomingjealousy, possessiveness, and the rejection of restrictive cultural standards.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory

Clearly something wasn't sitting well with the couple because they were getting a divorce within months of their impromptu marriage.