Canada- Sharif Rahman, owner of Curry House restaurant, assaulted by 3 men, suffered brain injury then died, Owen Sound, ON, 17 Aug. '23 *Arrests*
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What is a valid UK passport with a fake name? Did the passports have fake names, or did they come here with valid passport and then create fake names?
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Yes, it's just ridiculous. Death was maybe not the intent, but rather to prevent being chased and caught. But hey, criminals, just don't steal! Pay what you owe for services, don't harm anybody, and the world would be fine.
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This. As far as I understand it. The passports were issued under false names. I presume the UK Passport Authority didn't know this, so it would be a valid passport. There would be no indication in the departure airport in the UK (Manchester or London presumably) that there was a problem and no indication for the Canadian Border when the perps landed in Canada.
UK Passport Authority (or whatever it's called) needs to look into how UK passports can be issued under false names - what went wrong there? Close that hole. MOO. Too late for Sharif, RIP.
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'For scammers, Canada is a promised land bursting with bucks and negligible penalties.'
''There are the truck-driving drug carriers and LCBO thieves, Latin American break-in gangs, Roma distraction thieves and Irish “traveller” scams of all sorts.''
'According to a bombshell CBC News report and allegations in court documents, the three Irish “travellers” accused in the killing of beloved Owen Sound Curry House owner Sharif Rahman in August 2023 were allegedly in the country on a mission to steal. That allegedly included a meal at Rahman’s resto.'
''Instead, the Evanses allegedly scammed around Ontario using the old paving scheme as their financial funnel. The “traveller” community has employed the gimmick across Europe, Australia, the U.S. and Canada.''
HUNTER: Who are nomadic scammers accused in Owen Sound restaurateur's slaying?
Three Irish 'travellers' accused of involvement in the violent death of an Owen Sound Curry House owner were in Canada to allegedly steal.
''There are the truck-driving drug carriers and LCBO thieves, Latin American break-in gangs, Roma distraction thieves and Irish “traveller” scams of all sorts.''
'According to a bombshell CBC News report and allegations in court documents, the three Irish “travellers” accused in the killing of beloved Owen Sound Curry House owner Sharif Rahman in August 2023 were allegedly in the country on a mission to steal. That allegedly included a meal at Rahman’s resto.'
''Instead, the Evanses allegedly scammed around Ontario using the old paving scheme as their financial funnel. The “traveller” community has employed the gimmick across Europe, Australia, the U.S. and Canada.''
Could be based on the stolen identities of people who have died, or people who sell their own expired passports for big bucks, and the forger applies to renew the passports with different photos.
Wherever there are rules, there are people determined to break them, IMO.
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Yes, of course. I have no idea if the UK passport authority can stop anything like this.
Going down a trivia rabbit hole...
Though Irish Travelers (Scotland has / had indigenous travelers as well) are the most well known in the English speaking world, other European countries have, or perhaps had similar communities:
- Norway: Nomadic group of ethnic Norweigans also known as "Travelers" who lived aboard boats and sailed up and down the coast of Norway, and into neighboring nations. Spoke a dialect of that was a mixture of old tyme Norweigan mixed with Baltic and Slavic words.
- Germany and Germany speaking Europe: Nomadic group of German speaking, but non Gypsies known as 'Tinkerers". They used to have distinct settlements / "home bases" in German speaking Switzerland. Dialect was based on German Rhine dialect, which is evidently hard for many Germans to understand to begin with.
- Spain: Nomadic group of ethnic Spaniards known as "Metal Workers". They were concentrated in northern Spain as opposed to southern Spain. Evidently, 'Metal Workers' and ethnic Gypsies had unwritten rules about staying out of each others way.
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Referred to as 'Sinti' in Germany afaik, unless there's an additional group other than Roma. Where does 'Tinkerers' come from? From some Swiss German word, maybe? They may have spoken some form of cant, the way they did in Scotland. Words they used in certain ways with a hidden meaning.
Thanks for bringing this up, @Cryptic
The Scottish Travellers and Irish Travellers in Scotland used to be referred to as 'Tinkers' which is from the Gaelic word for 'tin-smith' but now it's considered pejorative and not used by the people themselves. I wouldn't use it either, the people themselves are allowed to say how they would like to be called. We had settled Traveller neighbours when I was growing up, and there were more nomadic Traveller children at school, who came and went, as their families followed the harvesting.
From wikipedia: (Irish: an lucht siúil, meaning the walking people), also known as Mincéirs (Shelta: Mincéirí) or Pavees. 'Pavee' is apparently from their own language, Shelta, and means 'Travellers', nothing to do with paving companies, just in case anybody wondered.
Irish Travellers - Wikipedia
In this case, poor Sharif was (allegedly) killed by Irish Travellers, but the whole Irish Traveller community is not at fault and are not per se criminals. Travelling folk, who aren't settled in a community, tend to be treated with suspicion by a settled community. MOO
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I was looking into how widespread the schemes are Actually the FBI has recently labelled this the "Travelling Conman Fraud", all the perps are Irish or UK citizens (and potentially Travellers, though that's not usually mentioned as perhaps being a form of racial profiling).
One Irish crime reporter has been studying it for years, it's all family-based organized crime, the kids start in it as early as 9 years old.
Explains the two older brothers and younger kids all working it together in this case in Ontario.
Perhaps because there's a whole new generation of conmen, it's exploding across Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
One Irish crime reporter has been studying it for years, it's all family-based organized crime, the kids start in it as early as 9 years old.
Explains the two older brothers and younger kids all working it together in this case in Ontario.
Perhaps because there's a whole new generation of conmen, it's exploding across Europe, Australia, Canada and the US.
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“Tinkerers” could be an altered form of Sinti, and Sinti comes from Sindh, an area of Pakistan, where this nomadic tribe is believed to have come from. (Settled Sindh people live in Pakistan and India and are known for their industrious nature).
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Tinkers were travelling craft people. They mended things like pots and pans, sharpened knives, that kind of thing. Because of the travelling nature of the business, it suited people from populations who were naturally less likely to settle in one place. The modern era with cheap, throw away pots and utensils meant their trade died out, like other professions like rag and bone, milkmen, etc.
Though the profession has become extinct, the word has persisted as a slur against travelling peoples who may have traditionally done this work.
Tinker - Wikipedia
There is a non Roma group in Germany that equates to Irish Travelers in that both groups are Nomadic, but non Roma.
The German 'Travelers' are known as Yenish. There is also a population in France. :Yenish people - Wikipedia
In regards to Sinti (Roma sub group) in Germany, here is a story of a Sinti boxer. Johan refused to cooperate with the new Nazfied boxing organization and even made fun of them by boxing with dyed blond hair and flour sprinkled on himself. Sadly, he was eventually sent to a concentration camp and murdered by capos (criminal trustees).
Johann Trollmann - Wikipedia
There is never a shortage of these types of flybynight companies. They are everywhere and their sales tack ticks are very enticing, this is a well organized crime org.. People fall prey to them each and every day in Canada. If it sounds too good to be true....
I wonder whether this group had added dine and dash to their criminal operations - and so perhaps police had other victimized restaurants contact them with witness statements.
I'm always curious to know how they were identified - were phone pings enough to track them...?
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The claim that Roma and Travellers were "people from populations who were naturally less likely to settle in one place" is a BIG lie! They moved from one place to another because they were forced to, not because they wanted it. For example in Sweden, the Roma was not given the right to Swedish citizenship in 1952! even when they had lived there since the beginning of the 16th century. It was first after 1952 that they were allowed to settle down in one place, before that they could not stay anywhere longer than three (3) weeks! The last Roma camp in Sweden was shut down in 1963!Tinkers were travelling craft people. They mended things like pots and pans, sharpened knives, that kind of thing. Because of the travelling nature of the business, it suited people from populations who were naturally less likely to settle in one place. The modern era with cheap, throw away pots and utensils meant their trade died out, like other professions like rag and bone, milkmen, etc.
Though the profession has become extinct, the word has persisted as a slur against travelling peoples who may have traditionally done this work.
Tinker - Wikipedia
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Sewden was not the only country with laws forbidding Roma to settle down, and while the Jews that perished in the Holocaust are remembered, how many are familiar with (or care about) the Romani Holocaust?
Romani Holocaust - Wikipedia
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I was familiar with the Holocaust impact on Romani people.The claim that Roma and Travellers were "people from populations who were naturally less likely to settle in one place" is a BIG lie! They moved from one place to another because they were forced to, not because they wanted it. For example in Sweden, the Roma was not given the right to Swedish citizenship in 1952! even when they had lived there since the beginning of the 16th century. It was first after 1952 that they were allowed to settle down in one place, before that they could not stay anywhere longer than three (3) weeks! The last Roma camp in Sweden was shut down in 1963!
Sewden was not the only country with laws forbidding Roma to settle down, and while the Jews that perished in the Holocaust are remembered, how many are familiar with (or care about) the Romani Holocaust?
Romani Holocaust - Wikipedia
I kept my language general because I wasn't speaking exclusively about Roma people, but all kinds of travelling people who took up itinerant professions. Craftspeople, peddlars, salespeople, carnival and sideshow workers, performers of all kinds were all folks who travelled, and most were not Romani.
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Where/are those people in those professions because that's what they wanted to do, or because they didn't have anywhere else to go? There where of course those who chose that kind of life, but I would guess there were many who would have loved to settle down if they were given the opportunity.
Today, think of the teen who's thrown out when their parents discover they are gay, or those who are homeless, and who can't find a place to live because they are drug users, or have mental problems, in an other era, would they have been among those who "took up itinerant professions"?
