CANADA - shooter in RCMP vehicle and uniform, 23 killed - Portapique, NS *suspect dead*

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  • #741
Those rumors were said through unreliable gossip sites. The rcmp never released anything that claimed the above ^.
I agree with you, the claim was made by Joe Warmington in the Toronto Sun, citing his "police sources." Possibly the same trusty police sources who gave him the inside scoop on the investigation into the Barry and Honey Sherman case a couple of years ago.

I'm not referencing the article, I believe it's been banned for other reasons.
 
  • #742
Those rumors were said through unreliable gossip sites. The rcmp never released anything that claimed the above ^.

Agreed additionally most of the local Canadian MSM new organizations have been fairly accurate in their reporting and things that were learned later have been corrected in later stories.

The majority of misinformation has come from the same fringe publications that we see report inaccurate information in many other cases that we follow on this site.
 
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  • #743
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I wish the reporter in this Global TV news clip had followed the WS postings from day one. Every word of her report might hold true BUT in a very early article posted on in WS an identical party was related only it was in 2004. Did they recreate this party again last Saturday night?

Quote: “He was very jovial,” she said in an interview just outside her house. “But there is another side to Gabe. He had some issues, especially with his girlfriend.”

Hudson said she and her husband John used to hang out with Wortman and his friends on Portapique Beach Road, though she said she hadn’t seen her neighbour in about a year.

“There was some underlying issues that I think he had with his relationship. It was a red flag …. (What happened on the weekend) wasn’t a surprise to some degree, but not to this extreme.”

Hudson mentioned being at a bonfire with Wortman, his girlfriend and some other neighbours around 2004 when there was some kind of altercation that left most at the gathering stunned. Hudson declined to offer details.

“He had an obsession with his girlfriend,” she said. “Just being jealous about things with her. I think that’s where things got in the way …. She was a beautiful girl.””


Probe into mass killing in Nova Scotia continues as names of victims emerge

Also, can anyone match the victims to this reported Saturday night party?
 
  • #744
Nova Scotia Shooting: How did killing spree start? New details reveal where it all began

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In the video of him caught changing into the vest that timestamp was about 5 mins. to 11am. So he only had an approximate 25 min. window to get down the road get rammed by HS cruiser, sadly to kill her (and shoot and injure another officer) and steal another vehicle and also to shoot the driver of that vehicle as well? Do we know how far away the incident from video is captured to where his fake cop car is rammed into? I'll look at a map.

I'm working on trying to find the location of the surveillance footage of him putting the vest on. at 10:55 to see how far it is from the location of the crash on hwy 2 in Shubencadie.

"The person who posted the video said it was taken from a surveillance camera outside their father’s business in Millbrook First Nation, just eight kilometres north of Brookfield."

Video appears to show Nova Scotia shooting suspect stop, change clothes amid killing spree

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Appears to be about 30km and 24min away

I posted this earlier I believe this answers your question
 
  • #747
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Good questions about the arson. He not only killed, but destroyed property and things of monetary value. He was bent on destruction beyond killing. What caused this rage? And then to destroy innocent people at random just for the sake of it?

When did this time bomb start? Did anyone notice it building?

jmo

I would bet many people saw many signs over the years and either chose to ignore them or avoided him altogether.
 
  • #748
In the video of him caught changing into the vest that timestamp was about 5 mins. to 11am. So he only had an approximate 25 min. window to get down the road get rammed by HS cruiser, sadly to kill her (and shoot and injure another officer) and steal another vehicle and also to shoot the driver of that vehicle as well? Do we know how far away the incident from video is captured to where his fake cop car is rammed into? I'll look at a map.

I’m not sure where he changed his vest but the tragic gunfire was reportedly exchanged at Shuberacadie. Someone else may have already replied, I’ve not read ahead.

“Gina Goulet, a fellow denturist, was killed at her bungalow in the countryside outside Shubenacadie, more than 75 kms away from Portapique. It was also in Shubenacadie that the killer was in a shootout with the RCMP – a violent exchange that left Constable Heidi Stevenson dead and another Mountie injured. He wasn’t stopped until he reached Enfield, about half an hour north of Halifax, where two officers shot him dead.“
RCMP defend not sending emergency alert before Nova Scotia gunman was killed
 
  • #749
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-girlfriend-stole-victim-vehicle-ns-1.5543194
''Girlfriend of N.S. gunman was among his victims, but she survived''

''First responders encountered the woman in the Portapique, N.S., area, sources confirmed to CBC News. It's unclear if she was injured and to what extent, but she survived. It's also unclear whether she managed to escape or if someone else found her.

On Wednesday, RCMP said there were no victims in hospital.''

Could this have all started with him getting embarrassed at a gathering with his neighbors and he took it out on his girlfriend? Put on his police uniform, tied her up, attacked her, and she thought he was going to kill her so she escaped and hid in the woods. He is furious that she may have went to their neighbors so he’s looking for her house by house and killing the neighbors?

Reports said his own house was burned. Maybe he thought she was still inside and he killed her first?

Intent can be formed in seconds. He may have created his “list” after the first attack. He figures he has already killed someone, there’s no going back. It’s sick but it’s almost cliche.

I wonder if they didn’t release more information because they didn’t want the public being rude or judgey about neighbors having a get together.
 
  • #750
I would bet many people saw many signs over the years and either chose to ignore them or avoided him altogether.

This is probably true but there’s no law against indications of what people might do in the future and he was well beyond his juvenile years. Those who were close to GW are probably feeling horrible by the association, even guilt about what could’ve they done differently.
 
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  • #751
Those rumors were said through unreliable gossip sites. The rcmp never released anything that claimed the above ^.
I suspect the media was told there was a domestic dispute involved and the media assumed the usual outcome. The odds weren’t in their favour this time. JMO
 
  • #752
Brett Ruskin
@Brett_CBC

“BREAKING: CBC News' Investigative Unit has learned (according to several sources) new details about the NS shooting. The manhunt ended when the shooter went to a gas station to fill up, and police officers were already there to refuel; one of those officers shot him.”
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I’m not sure where he changed his vest but the tragic gunfire was reportedly exchanged at Shuberacadie. Someone else may have already replied, I’ve not read ahead.

“Gina Goulet, a fellow denturist, was killed at her bungalow in the countryside outside Shubenacadie, more than 75 kms away from Portapique. It was also in Shubenacadie that the killer was in a shootout with the RCMP – a violent exchange that left Constable Heidi Stevenson dead and another Mountie injured. He wasn’t stopped until he reached Enfield, about half an hour north of Halifax, where two officers shot him dead.“
RCMP defend not sending emergency alert before Nova Scotia gunman was killed

I believe the RCMP constable rammed him in Shubenacadie (on the hwy). The killer shot Const. Stevenson, dragged her out of the vehicle, and shot her again. (I'm not sure, but I wonder if the other constable was in the same car?) Joe, driving a Tracker on the way to pick up furnace fuel, and apparently unaware of the violence he was approaching, saw there was a collision and came to help. The killer shot him and took the Tracker (the reason the police expected to find him in a Tracker). Apparently, he then went to Gina's place (home?), killed her and took her Mazda. I believe he stopped to refuel twice, but was unsuccessful the first time for some reason. I don't know which vehicle that was in. When he pulled in to refuel the Mazda the last time, there was an unmarked police vehicle with a tactical team also fueling. He didn't see them, but was recognised, at which point he "went for a gun" (perhaps inside the car), and was shot by RCMP.
 
  • #755
I was up and down those local roads quite a bit back in the day. I think he simply blew by the Millbrook RCMP because it was on the secondary road (Rte.2) that would get him to where he was going. He probably didn't want to risk travelling on the main divided highway (#102) in case there were roadblocks and not as many exit options. Or, maybe it was the most direct line to get to a targeted victim? He probably didn't know there was cctv where he stopped, most likely wouldn't have cared by that stage. jmo

Who knows, his depravity knew no bounds, maybe there was a thrill factor in driving his phoney ride by the detachment?

When I saw the video I wondered for a second, whether he'd been brazen enough to swap his car at the detachment because I couldn't see decals and the car in the vid has a brush guard on the front which I hadn't heard mention of before.

Video appears to show Nova Scotia shooting suspect stop, change clothes amid killing spree
 
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Nova Scotia Shooting: How did killing spree start? New details reveal where it all began

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I’m not sure where he changed his vest but the tragic gunfire was reportedly exchanged at Shuberacadie. Someone else may have already replied, I’ve not read ahead.

“Gina Goulet, a fellow denturist, was killed at her bungalow in the countryside outside Shubenacadie, more than 75 kms away from Portapique. It was also in Shubenacadie that the killer was in a shootout with the RCMP – a violent exchange that left Constable Heidi Stevenson dead and another Mountie injured. He wasn’t stopped until he reached Enfield, about half an hour north of Halifax, where two officers shot him dead.“
RCMP defend not sending emergency alert before Nova Scotia gunman was killed
Looked up driving time from that area to Enfield NS and it says 16 min. 23.5 km
 
  • #757
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-girlfriend-stole-victim-vehicle-ns-1.5543194
''Girlfriend of N.S. gunman was among his victims, but she survived''

''First responders encountered the woman in the Portapique, N.S., area, sources confirmed to CBC News. It's unclear if she was injured and to what extent, but she survived. It's also unclear whether she managed to escape or if someone else found her.

On Wednesday, RCMP said there were no victims in hospital.''

Also from you link -
“When the gunman pulled into the Irving Big Stop gas station to fill up, emergency response team police officers and a K-9 officer were already there refuelling an unmarked vehicle.

It was one of those officers who shot and killed the gunman, according to sources.”

- and regarding the two different vehicles, but I’ve lost track of how it came to be the fake cruiser was also burned in Shubenacadie as I would’ve thought the killer attacked Gina prior to the shootout but instead this tragedy occurred after? -

“Police have said they killed the 51-year-old gunman at the gas station in Enfield, N.S., at 11:26 a.m. AT on Sunday.

At the time, police were advising on Twitter that he was driving a silver Chevrolet Tracker in the Milford, N.S., area.

But by that point, Wortman was actually driving a Mazda 3 owned by one of his victims, Gina Goulet, who lived in nearby Shubenacadie, N.S.

It was also in Shubenacadie that the gunman shot Const. Heidi Stevenson, a 23-year RCMP veteran.”
 
  • #758
Brett Ruskin
@Brett_CBC

“BREAKING: CBC News' Investigative Unit has learned (according to several sources) new details about the NS shooting. The manhunt ended when the shooter went to a gas station to fill up, and police officers were already there to refuel; one of those officers shot him.”
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Brett Ruskin on Twitter

Don’t know how to link to an article on my phone, but CBC has a new article out with some new info - clarifies the vehicle situation (he was driving Gina’s Mazda 3 when he was “apprehended”).....so between the time his mock car was hit and caught fire (approx 11:15) he was able to take the Chev Tracker (Joey’s from some sources), go to Gina’s and kill her (and shoot her dog) and then get to the Enfield gas station to non-chalantly fuel up at 11:24? Luckily the cops recognized him.....bc at that point in time they didn’t know about the Mazda3....lives were saved. Also, when you guys are googling times from one place to another it’s important to remember he was (at times) driving a police car and would be able to easily make the distances more quickly than google maps predicts. All MOO and all that....
 
  • #759
I was up and down those local roads quite a bit back in the day. I think he simply blew by the Millbrook RCMP because it was on the secondary road (Rte.2) that would get him to where he was going. He probably didn't want to risk travelling on the main divided highway (#102) in case there were roadblocks and not as many exit options. Or, maybe it was the most direct line to get to a targeted victim? He probably didn't know there was cctv where he stopped, most likely wouldn't have cared by that stage. jmo

Who knows, his depravity knew no bounds, maybe there was a thrill factor in driving his phoney ride by the detachment?

When I saw the video I wondered for a second, whether he'd been brazen enough to swap his car at the detachment because I couldn't see decals and the car in the vid has a brush guard on the front which I hadn't heard mention of before.

Video appears to show Nova Scotia shooting suspect stop, change clothes amid killing spree
I believe his fake cruiser also had a brush guard jmo

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  • #760
Don’t know how to link to an article on my phone, but CBC has a new article out with some new info - clarifies the vehicle situation (he was driving Gina’s Mazda 3 when he was “apprehended”).....so between the time his mock car was hit and caught fire (approx 11:15) he was able to take the Chev Tracker (Joey’s from some sources), go to Gina’s and kill her (and shoot her dog) and then get to the Enfield gas station to non-chalantly fuel up at 11:24? Luckily the cops recognized him.....bc at that point in time they didn’t know about the Mazda3....lives were saved. Also, when you guys are googling times from one place to another it’s important to remember he was (at times) driving a police car and would be able to easily make the distances more quickly than google maps predicts. All MOO and all that....


"At the time, police were advising on Twitter that he was driving a silver Chevrolet Tracker in the Milford, N.S., area.

But by that point, Wortman was actually driving a Mazda 3 owned by one of his victims, Gina Goulet, who lived in nearby Shubenacadie, N.S."


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...-girlfriend-stole-victim-vehicle-ns-1.5543194
 
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