CANADA Canada - Sonia Varaschin, 42, Orangeville, 29 Aug 2010 - #2

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Oh, I hadn't thought of this sicko(s) filming the killing on a phone camera! Does anyone know - can LE trace filming from phones? I'm technologically very challenged!:loser:

ETA: I'm talking about SV's killer. Now that phone cameras are mentioned, I'm wondering if Sonia's killer took photos, etc. as his trophy. Perhaps images from phone cameras will become the newest trend in trophy-keeping.

 

[dotr]

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2011/09/14/18685746.html
TORONTO – A 16-year-old girl who was sexually assaulted in a Whitby, Ont., park was able to help detectives draw up a composite sketch of one of three suspects.

Poor girl also suffered facial injuries.Imagine two guys having to hold down one small girl for the third guy to assault, I hope they nail these cowards.

 

[Valleyboy]

Varaschin’s home sold, buyer unaware of history


http://www.orangeville.com/news/loc...araschin-s-home-sold-buyer-unaware-of-history

Would you buy Sonia Varaschin’s house if you knew she might have been murdered there?
When Brampton resident Samuel Jacques agreed to buy a new home, he and his girlfriend, Holly Marcuz, claim they had no idea they were acquiring the house the Orangeville woman may, or may not, have been killed in.
The common-law couple said they only learned that fact after seeing the Spring Street townhouse in a recent media report chronicling the one-year anniversary of Varaschin’s unsolved homicide.
“I felt like this should have been disclosed,” Jacques said on Friday (Sept. 9). “We did not know about this until I found out from watching the news that we just purchased her house.”

 

[Hazel]

I believe this to be the Aug. 30th "news" the above article is referring to.

" .... townhouse was put up for sale, and it SOLD just three weeks ago ... the pictures from the listing offer a first glimpse at the interior. Any signs that a murder occurred have since been cleaned away".

quote and pics from video at this link: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110830/sonia-varaschin-murder-110830/20110830/?hub=TorontoNewHome&cid=top[/URL]

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Thanks for the pics. In the upper left pic, is that a light coloured carpet or is it cement flooring? I cannot imagine how the house could sell with the same carpet. Even a professional cleaner would not be able to erase what must have been a blood-bath.

QUESTION: Why do I think that new owners are required by law to know the history of the house? (Maybe too much mystery book reading!)

ETA: claim they had no idea they were acquiring the house the Orangeville woman may, or may not, have been killed in.


The quote I placed here is merely playing with semantics - if Sonia was not "killed" in that house, she certainly was brutally attacked there. It seems to me that the media is playing with words.

 

[matou]

I believe this to be the Aug. 30th "news" the above article is referring to.

quote and pics from video at this link: http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110830/sonia-varaschin-murder-110830/20110830/?hub=TorontoNewHome&cid=top[/URL]

I just occured to me that if Sonia was in her room when the attack happened, then she would have been upstairs. I think the 1st photo is of a bedroom based on the windows. Look at the view of the house and I think it's the room facing the street. The window is the same (3 parts). He would have had to carry her or drag her down the stairs to get her out of the house. How no one heard anything is really surprising to me. I think the wall to her room would adjoin to the neighbour's home. If the layout is the same than I'm gonna guess that there is a bedroom next to Sonia's bedroom but I can't see the other side in the photo. JMO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Matou (and everyone) - that's what I was talking about above regarding the grey carpet. I suspect that the grey carpetted room IS Sonia's bedroom. The carpet has to be new as there would have been an horrific blood-bath.

So, wouldn't there have been a trail of blood from Sonia's upstairs bedroom all the way out to her car?

Also, I really don't see how the killer(s) could have taken Sonia from the bedroom to the car without leaving lots of DNA.

I'm just rambling here. They (LE) must catch this killer.

 

[dotr]

A number of years ago , I moved into a neighbourhood unaware that just down the street a young girl had been lured from her family home and murdered. Although the crime did not occur at the home, the family had a difficult time trying to sell it, because the house was "stigmatized".
At the time, I thought it was on account of nobody wanting a "haunted" or 'unhappy" home, But I know better now ( I think).The killer had not yet been identified- Who wants to take a chance that the person might be a neighbour ?!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Good point, dotr. OR, I was thinking what if the killer really wanted to PO the police by returning to Sonia's house and repeating the murder on the woman who now resides there.

Some houses just must be demolished - think of Paul Bernardo's demolished house!

 

[maxfactor]

A number of years ago , I moved into a neighbourhood unaware that just down the street a young girl had been lured from her family home and murdered. Although the crime did not occur at the home, the family had a difficult time trying to sell it, because the house was "stigmatized".
At the time, I thought it was on account of nobody wanting a "haunted" or 'unhappy" home, But I know better now ( I think).The killer had not yet been identified- Who wants to take a chance that the person might be a neighbour ?!

That's a really good point dotr!!!

 

[Hazel]

Global News Hour - Scene of a murder
Imagine your new dream home was once the scene of a horrific crime and you didn't know it. For one Orangeville man, it's the chilling truth. Lama Nicolas reports. Sept. 15

VIDEO : http://www.globaltoronto.com/video/scene+of+a+murder/video.html?v=2131141258#top+stories

 

[Hazel]

I just occured to me that if Sonia was in her room when the attack happened, then she would have been upstairs. I think the 1st photo is of a bedroom based on the windows. Look at the view of the house and I think it's the room facing the street. The window is the same (3 parts). He would have had to carry her or drag her down the stairs to get her out of the house. How no one heard anything is really surprising to me. I think the wall to her room would adjoin to the neighbour's home. If the layout is the same than I'm gonna guess that there is a bedroom next to Sonia's bedroom but I can't see the other side in the photo. JMO

IMHO, the bedroom in the 1st photo faces the back of the townhouse. Notice that the front window is 'centered' in the wall, whilst the window of the grey carpet room is not centered. There is some extra space on the left hand side (if viewing from the outside). Not sure if that is part of another room or perhaps a small step-in closet or linen closet? The wall-to-wall closet could be located on left hand side of the door, so that windowless room we see on the front of the house, could be the back wall of the wall-to-wall closet.

If that turns out to be the case, and IF that 1st. photo IS in fact Sonia's room, then it would not be adjacent to any neighbour - UNLESS, that windowless room we see is the washroom ... All JMHO for what it's worth

I seem to remember we saw images of the back of the house, when we were looking for the deck and the 'sliding door' ... if we could see those images again, we could confirm if there is another 3-part-window on the back corner of the townhouse.

Sorry if I'm not being very clear it reads very confusing even to me, LOL

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Good post above, Hazel. OK, if your assumptions are correct - the killing took place in late August so no matter where the 'killing room' is located wouldn't people have their windows and doors open for fresh air? Wouldn't neighbours be sitting out on porches and in the backyards?

To me, Sonia's murderer had to be extremely brazen to do (and get away with it! ) a murder such as this one on a beautiful August day/night.:twocents:

 

[flipflop]

Good post above, Hazel. OK, if your assumptions are correct - the killing took place in late August so no matter where the 'killing room' is located wouldn't people have their windows and doors open for fresh air? Wouldn't neighbours be sitting out on porches and in the backyards?

To me, Sonia's murderer had to be extremely brazen to do (and get away with it! ) a murder such as this one on a beautiful August day/night.:twocents:

Did SV have central air, was it hot that night and were her windows closed?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Hey flipflop - if memory serves, the summer of 2010 was not as pleasant as it should have been regarding the weather. I recall it being cloudy and a bit cool-ish.

Does anyone else recall?

Good point about the complex having central air!

 

[dotr]

http://www.todaysweather.ca/en/weather/historical/orangeville-ontario/2010/08



Historical Weather Summary

2010-08-27

5 °C

23.6 °C

14.3 °C

0 mm

0 cm



2010-08-28

8.3 °C

27.9 °C

18.1 °C

0 mm

0 cm



2010-08-29

9.9 °C

30.2 °C

20.1 °C

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0 cm



2010-08-30

15.5 °C

33.4 °C

24.5 °C

0 mm

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2010-08-31

17 °C

31.5 °C

24.3 °C

 

[Hazel]

Was trying to find the post with the link to images of the back of the townhouse (deck and sliding door), and came upon my post #160. The link no longer works, but with the help of Google found another link about that break-in. (link below)

What if it was an intruder (a total stranger) that attacked Sonia while she was asleep (a la RW)? Trying to think why nobody seems to have heard anything. Good point Flip about central air!
:waitasec: If the perp(s) surprised her while she was sleeping, he could have taped her mouth to prevent her from screaming? I wonder if Jessica L. and Laurie M. were able to scream at all?

Hope LE have investigated this other home invasions fully:

A 25-year-old Bowmanville woman was sleeping in her bedroom when she was awakened by the sound of her bedroom door opening.

An unknown, shirtless male [20] entered the room while shining a flashlight in the dark.

read more: http://www.brooklinwatch.info/?tag=home-invasion

 

[Hazel]

Thank you dotr for the data. The relevant temperatures would be:
Nightime Sunday, Aug. 29 and early morning Monday the 30th, according to first reports:

[TABLE="2"] D A T E Minimum Maximum Mean[/TABLE]
[TABLE="Maximum"]Aug. 28 08.3 °C 27.9 °C 18.1 °C [/TABLE]
[TABLE="2"]Aug. 29 09.9 °C 30.2 °C 20.1 °C [/TABLE]
[TABLE="30"]Aug. 30 15.5 °C 33.4 °C 24.5 °C[/TABLE]​

Sonia Varaschin, 42, was last seen Sunday night, Aug. 29, 2010, hours before some neighbours reported hearing screams and screeching tires.
On Monday, Aug. 30, Varaschin's vehicle was found with "what appeared to be blood on it,"

link to RubyRed's post #1 (thread 1) : http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5570914#post5570914

 

[Kamille]

If memory serves me correctly, I believe that was a very hot and humid weekend. We discussed the fact that it would be odd for someone to be wearing construction boots during that hot weather.

I also thought I remembered her immediate neighbour stating that she had her windows open and heard nothing. Which was odd because another neighbour, a young man who seemed to have lived a considerable distance away claimed to have heard "yelling" coming from the direction of Sonia's home and car tires screeching I do think Sonia's home had A/C and that it was likely on and the windows closed although I thought we had also discussed some of the windows being open in the pictures after the fact when LE was going through the home so it's hard to tell.

Here is the link for the original listing...

http://www.homesandland.com/Real_Estate/ON/City/Orangeville/ListingId/17211616.html

It's pretty vague and doesn't mention anything about the house but rather asks potential buyers to contact the agent for more information. The MLS# for that listing is no longer active, probably due to the fact that it was considered sold until the new owners learned about the history.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

I found some neighbour quotes in one of the original news articles and it appears that the immediate neighbour didn't say anything about the windows being open just that she hadn't heard anything.

"I didn't see her very often but the kids did. All the kids used to play down at the bottom of the hill and she used to give them candy and stuff like that," Bowering said.

Asked if she ever heard problems at Varaschin's home, Bowering said, "nothing at all. She mostly worked nights so we never ever saw her."

Some neighbours heard "noises" coming from the house just before 3 a.m. Monday, Bowering said, echoing mumblings other neighbours repeated, unable to name the source of the information. Some neighbours flatly refused comment.

"Some of them heard screams and tires squealing," Bowering said.

"I live right next door and I didn't hear anything," said Kim Fievet.


Only one neighbour (a young man who doesn't appear to have been living anywhere near the townhouse) has ever been quoted as being the source of the neighbours (plural) hearing noises coming from the house. I wonder who else was saying it?

Neighbour Steffen Lundy said he heard a ruckus late Sunday night in the vicinity of Varaschin's home.

"I was sleeping and pretty much woke up to car tires squealing . . . and yelling," Lundy recalled.

http://www.globaltoronto.com/Police+look+missing+Orangeville+woman/3464340/story.html

Which is why I get a bad feeling about the young men who were living around the area at the time, especially when I read the story about her mother saying that she had trouble with a group of young tenants who were actually living in the complex in one of the units.

MOO