Canada - Terry, 27, & Hailey Blanchette, 2, Blairmore, AB, 14 Sept 2015 #2

[Jasper52]

This video includes witness information about the speeding van and the screaming child. From that information, I arrived at the understanding that the speeding van and screaming child were both outside of the house.

"Police say that Hailey was abducted in the middle of the night"

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/father-fo...-issued-for-missing-blairmore-child-1.2562795

Just to clarify my pevious statement, I meant when LE first arrived at the crime scene - I don't think they were aware that a child was involved. They wouldn't have found out about the screaming and van until interviewing witnesses. Did the screams come from inside the house or outside? I agree the witnesses would have been able to provide the approximate time the incident took place.

From the article:

“We have spoken to Hailey’s mother and can certainly confirm that Hailey is not with her so at this point in time given the fact that Hailey is a two-year-old, that inherently makes her vulnerable so hence the AMBER Alert and obviously the great concern to locate Hailey safe and sound and return her to her family,” said Hamori."

It was quite awhile before the RCMP spoke with CD to ascertain this info.

Again, just my thoughts on this.

 

[otto]

Off topic: don't miss the supermoon eclipse tonight!

 

[Snowglobe]

i think you are referring to Nathan OBrien and investigators did find enough evidence within the house to charge the suspect with 1st degree murder for all 3 victims. His parents were aware of this when they made their statement to the press but were not allowed to say anything because the police wanted to have the public looking for both Nathan and the suspect. They later told the media that they had been informed of the findings in the house prior to the press conference.

Yes, that is the case. Nathan's mother discovered the scene when she went to pick him up.

A similar scenario could explain why first-degree murder charges were laid in this case, rather than second-degree upgraded to first-degree at a later date, as sometimes happens.

 

[wendiesan]

Off topic: don't miss the supermoon eclipse tonight!

Maybe that explains all the weird things going on. Sort of a fortified full moon effect.

 

[swedie]

This video includes witness information about the speeding van and the screaming child. From that information, I arrived at the understanding that the speeding van and screaming child were both outside of the house.

"Police say that Hailey was abducted in the middle of the night"

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/father-fo...-issued-for-missing-blairmore-child-1.2562795

Thank you Otto. I did recall CTV having the information of a screaming child but wasn't able to find it and then forgot about it. Thank goodness HD screamed and caught the neighbours attention. And thanks to the observant neighbour for being curious enough to look outside and take notice of the white van. Otherwise who knows where this investigation would be right now. MOO.

 

[KatieLiz]

"Fled the residence at a high rate of speed and was headed west." I'm wondering if this was noticed on the street at the front of the home, which would be the most likely place to be noticed and the most likely place in which a high rate of speed could be obtained; then why all the evidence markers that lead to the back alley and by all indications those markers appear to resemble a blood trail.

When I was looking at the google earth views of TB's home I thought maybe DS had come up and parked in the alley behind, as opposed to out front on 21st Ave. which would make a lot of sense seeing the picture with evidence markers out back.

I live in a town quite similar to Blairmore, so just thinking with the small-town mentality, you would know where to park if you wanted to make a surprise entrance on someone. And a less noticeable exit "sneaking" out the back may have been the original plan. It wouldn't be crazy to think that it's possible DS had parked the van out back. The house presented a unique opportunity by having a road out front and out back. Someone thinking even somewhat logically would probably choose the less populated back alley street over the more main road out front.

DS could have also known personal details about TB. Just an example- if TB smoked
Cigarettes maybe he smoked outside the back door since HDB was in the house, so maybe he often left that door unlocked? Just a thought...

ETA: every article I have seen simply states the "suspect vehicle fled
West at a high rate of speed." I haven't seen any mention of what street it fled on, meaning it hasn't said it fled on 21st Ave as opposed to the back alley.

 

[~n/t~]

Aunt of slain tot Hailey Blanchette prays for recovery of her accused killer after suicide attempt in Lethbridge jail

As Derek Saretzky lay in an intensive care unit at a Lethbridge hospital, the family of a man and baby girl he’s accused of slaying prayed he’d live.

“We don’t want him dead,” said Terry Blanchette’s sister and Hailey’s aunt Amanda Blanchette said in a Facebook interview.

“We want answers.”

“I pray for his recovery, as my family wants to know why Terry and Hailey died,” she said.

“Especially the baby, why take her from the house only to kill her?”

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/2...ller-after-suicide-attempt-in-lethbridge-jail

 

[Snowglobe]

<modsnip>

Where exactly is the property where HDB was found?

 

[Matzoh]

&#8220;Especially the baby, why take her from the house only to kill her?&#8221;

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/09/2...ller-after-suicide-attempt-in-lethbridge-jail

Given that quote from the sister, I would therefore assume this wasn't a sexually motivated crime.

 

[Rayemonde]

Given that quote from the sister, I would therefore assume this wasn't a sexually motivated crime.

How would the sister know whether it was or not?

 

[Snowglobe]

<modsnip>

Where exactly is the property where HDB was found?

There is some controversy surrounding development of property north of Blairmore, as it relates to bringing direct jobs vs. tourist dollars to the community. These two goals are directly at odds. The murders may sway things in favor of the direct jobs, as who would want to pass a day near the scene of a horrific crime?

 

[Matzoh]

Wouldn't the police tell the family if there had been sexual violation or if that's part of the investigation? (I don't know - I'm asking.) The sister is saying she doesn't understand why HDB was taken from the house and then killed...if HDB had been violated, I don't think AB would phrase it that way. I also suspect if a sex crime was involved here, the family might not have been as quick to reach out to the family of DS (not that that couldn't still have happened...I just would find it less likely.)

Further to that (and completely MOO), this just doesn't strike me as a sexual thing. If that had been his intent, why choose to abduct a child with a parent in the home? It wouldn't be reasonable to assume one could get in, abduct a child, and get out of a house in the middle of the night without alerting an adult in the process, especially with a pre-verbal 2-year-old who would likely communicate fear or being startled by screaming. Further, it WOULD be reasonable to assume there would be a parent in the home in the middle of the night. It would be easier to abduct a child where there's less supervision (ie. a playground, a mall, a daycare scenario). If DS were sexually motivated for HDB in particular, I think it would make more sense for DS to befriend/ingratiate himself to TB and put himself in some kind of situation where he was given care of HDB (ie. babysitting or something). Given that TB and DS didn't get along, that obviously wasn't happening either.

I still think there may have been a grudge of some sort between the two men that factored into this, but my guess is that it became this horrible tragedy because of drugs, mental illness and panic. MHO.

 

[Satchie]

The police found no evidence in the home or surrounding property indicating Hailey was seriously physically harmed at that point.

Good point. They didn't even know a child had been abducted until they confirmed with various people that she wasn't with them. They didn't give any info indicating the perp or the child had been wounded, that would indicate no signs of, for eg, a blood trail to the van.

 

[Satchie]

I posted this info in the first thread. Here's the link:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?290339-Canada-Hailey-Dunbar-Blanchette-2-Blairmore-AB-14-Sep-2015-1&p=12068167#post12068167

I think the gas cans might be connected with an RCMP generator outside the tent.

 

[bornofposeidon]

Other than the pattern that leads from the side of the home where the steps are to the back where a vehicle would be parked you can't tell if the markers indicate blood. They run in a line as opposed to be scattered all over the place.

I wondered if they may also mark foot steps from the perp stepping in blood or another substance inside the house.

 

[JMBone]

I have this strange feeling that DS grandparent's neighbour was almost a "practice" for him and that TS and HDB were his targets. I know DS hasn't been charged in HM murder but the proximity and timing are hard to ignore. HM was developmentally challenged but lived on her own and DS would've know all of this and seen her as an easy target before his big plan. The thing that might be off is weapons of choice as witnesses reported hearing gunshots in the HM case and we know that a knife was used for TB.

I have no idea why TS and HBD were his targets but I am hoping this does come to light in the coming months. Mental illness partnered with drugs were definitely a tipping point in some way. JMO

 

[Clouddippingdown]

Good point. They didn't even know a child had been abducted until they confirmed with various people that she wasn't with them. They didn't give any info indicating the perp or the child had been wounded, that would indicate no signs of, for eg, a blood trail to the van.

The blood trail would not necessarily be from Hailey, more than like off of DS's shoes; if, in fact he did stab TB 16 times..(??) There was probably quite the struggle and more than likely a fair bit of blood laying around.

 

[bornofposeidon]

I have this strange feeling that DS grandparent's neighbour was almost a "practice" for him and that TS and HDB were his targets. I know DS hasn't been charged in HM murder but the proximity and timing are hard to ignore. HM was developmentally challenged but lived on her own and DS would've know all of this and seen her as an easy target before his big plan. The thing that might be off is weapons of choice as witnesses reported hearing gunshots in the HM case and we know that a knife was used for TB.

I have no idea why TS and HBD were his targets but I am hoping this does come to light in the coming months. Mental illness partnered with drugs were definitely a tipping point in some way. JMO

There is also the murder of Victoria Crow Shoe. I fear she may have been "practice" as well.

 

[Clouddippingdown]

How would the sister know whether it was or not?

A Freudian slip?? Do you honestly believe that details of a sexual assault are going to be released this early in this particular investigation to even the family in the event of those details hitting the media? Imo, there aren't a lot of reasons for non parental abduction of a small child other than pedophilia; in fact the only other one that comes to mind is cult sacrifice. As far as that goes I only ever read one mention of cult on Hailey's missing facebook page.

 

[Rayemonde]

I have this strange feeling that DS grandparent's neighbour was almost a "practice" for him and that TS and HDB were his targets. I know DS hasn't been charged in HM murder but the proximity and timing are hard to ignore. HM was developmentally challenged but lived on her own and DS would've know all of this and seen her as an easy target before his big plan. The thing that might be off is weapons of choice as witnesses reported hearing gunshots in the HM case and we know that a knife was used for TB.

I have no idea why TS and HBD were his targets but I am hoping this does come to light in the coming months. Mental illness partnered with drugs were definitely a tipping point in some way. JMO

Poor Hannah. Her murder has been completely overshadowed