Canada - Terry, 27, & Hailey Blanchette, 2, Blairmore, AB, 14 Sept 2015 #2

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Where exactly is the property where HDB was found?


If you examine Google earth you will find it a few kilometres north of
Blairmore. If you zoom it is North and slightly east from TB's house.

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In this screen shot TB's house is the red arrow at the bottom, the location of the rural property where HDB was found is the top right corner I have marked with the black bullseye icon. Hope this helps.
 
  • #622
Wouldn't the police tell the family if there had been sexual violation or if that's part of the investigation? (I don't know - I'm asking.) The sister is saying she doesn't understand why HDB was taken from the house and then killed...if HDB had been violated, I don't think AB would phrase it that way. I also suspect if a sex crime was involved here, the family might not have been as quick to reach out to the family of DS (not that that couldn't still have happened...I just would find it less likely.)

Further to that (and completely MOO), this just doesn't strike me as a sexual thing. If that had been his intent, why choose to abduct a child with a parent in the home? It wouldn't be reasonable to assume one could get in, abduct a child, and get out of a house in the middle of the night without alerting an adult in the process, especially with a pre-verbal 2-year-old who would likely communicate fear or being startled by screaming. Further, it WOULD be reasonable to assume there would be a parent in the home in the middle of the night. It would be easier to abduct a child where there's less supervision (ie. a playground, a mall, a daycare scenario). If DS were sexually motivated for HDB in particular, I think it would make more sense for DS to befriend/ingratiate himself to TB and put himself in some kind of situation where he was given care of HDB (ie. babysitting or something). Given that TB and DS didn't get along, that obviously wasn't happening either.

I still think there may have been a grudge of some sort between the two men that factored into this, but my guess is that it became this horrible tragedy because of drugs, mental illness and panic. MHO.

Maybe Derek knew that Terry left his door unlocked, or knew were he kept a spare key or something. So he thought Hailey would be an easy target. Or maybe he just wasn't too worried about Terry waking up, because he didn't mind the idea of killing Terry as well. Or maybe murdering Terry first was always part of his fantasy.

We still don't know if Derek broke in, if he sneaked in or if he was invited in.
 
  • #623
I think the gas cans might be connected with an RCMP generator outside the tent.

Do the RCMP routinely store gas cans inside the yellow crime scene tape, where it could not only contaminate evidence, but start a fire and destroy it? I don't think so.

Sadly, I think the explanation is quite different. Look closely at the photo.
 
  • #624
It looks like the land has been scraped bare in square patches. Are those oil rig sites, clearcuts for logging, or maybe mineral exploration? Anyone?
 
  • #625
It looks like the land has been scraped bare in square patches. Are those oil rig sites, clearcuts for logging, or maybe mineral exploration? Anyone?


Are these the spots you are referring to?

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If these are what you refer to, then the long lines are hydro wires, and it appears the square clearings have been logged, maybe for a farmer to use the land? A local person could probably confirm for sure. I've just been snooping around Google earth.
 
  • #626
I think they're exploration test sites for mineral development, but I want to be sure.

On another note, could someone please point out on the image where the River Run subdivision was supposed to be? They had an office on 21 Avenue in Blairmore? Thanks.
 
  • #627
I think they're exploration test sites for mineral development, but I want to be sure.

On another note, could someone please point out on the image where the River Run subdivision was supposed to be? They had an office on 21 Avenue in Blairmore? Thanks.

What is the River Run subdivision? Does it have a tie to the case? I haven't heard of it before.
 
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Maybe someone who lives in the area can help. Please correct me if I'm wrong:

There would be two roads out of Blairmore that lead north: 20 Ave. by the Tim Hortons, and 129 St. On 129 St. there is a construction area, which is fenced. The Tim Hortons may have a video camera; I'm not sure.

Just because the van was spotted heading west does not mean it went out of town on the west road (20 Ave.). It could have taken a loop and headed north on the east road (129 St.). Alternatively, it could have stopped somewhere first.

ETA: Both ends of 20 St. lead north out of town.
 
  • #630
Can someone recall the exact wording into the statement made along the lines of "if you really loved (knew?) her you would have taken scout ect ect" Was that in the sisters statement? I may have slightly different insight into that cryptic wording than has been discussed so far. Nothing relevant but maybe interesting to some.
 
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Can someone recall the exact wording into the statement made along the lines of "if you really loved (knew?) her you would have taken scout ect ect" Was that in the sisters statement? I may have slightly different insight into that cryptic wording than has been discussed so far. Nothing relevant but maybe interesting to some.

It was that comment, and the comment about "making arrangments" to pick Hailey up that made me wonder if others were sometimes assigned to transport Hailey to a friend's place as a pick-up point for these two-week visits. Also, Hailey's godmother said CD contacted her right away when she made the discovery on FB. The godmother does not live in the Crowsnest Pass, but in Red Deer, as she stated in a Global-TV interview.

Interestingly, the godmother said Scout is a toy. Parents never call a child's security blanket a toy. They might call it a "lovey".

This could be important to how things unfolded.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2222343/h...ther-pleads-for-missing-alberta-girls-return/
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1181410921872922&id=398857086794980

When asked to address the abductor, if he happened to be listening, Amanada said, &#8220;bring her back because if you honestly love that little girl and you took away her father, you don&#8217;t love her. She&#8217;s just a baby. She needs to come home to where she&#8217;s comfortable, whether or not you have her Scout.&#8221;

&#8220;Everybody is worried and it&#8217;s killing us,&#8221; she said.
Sources close to the Herald indicate that &#8220;Scout&#8221; is Hailey&#8217;s name for her security blanket.
 
  • #633
It was that comment, and the comment about "making arrangments" to pick Hailey up that made me wonder if others were sometimes assigned to transport Hailey to a friend's place as a pick-up point for these two-week visits. Also, Hailey's godmother said CD contacted her right away when she made the discovery on FB. The godmother does not live in the Crowsnest Pass, but in Red Deer, as she stated in a Global-TV interview.

Interestingly, the godmother said Scout is a toy. Parents never call a child's security blanket a toy. They might call it a "lovey".

This could be important to how things unfolded.

http://globalnews.ca/news/2222343/h...ther-pleads-for-missing-alberta-girls-return/
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1181410921872922&id=398857086794980

When asked to address the abductor, if he happened to be listening, Amanada said, “bring her back because if you honestly love that little girl and you took away her father, you don’t love her. She’s just a baby. She needs to come home to where she’s comfortable, whether or not you have her Scout.”

“Everybody is worried and it’s killing us,” she said.
Sources close to the Herald indicate that “Scout” is Hailey’s name for her security blanket.
I took the "whether or not you have scout" to mean that the person who took Hailey also took scout. Like, she needs to be at home where she is comfortable, just because you took scout with her doesn't mean she is comfortable.

If my interpretation is correct, then DS knew Hailey well enough to grab her comfort item as well when he took her.
 
  • #634
There has been a lot of discussion on this thread about the motive for the kidnapping of HDB. I googled a few things and came up with the information below. Interesting reading regarding the motivation for kidnapping young children, the who's, the why's and some Canadian Legaleese regarding kidnapping etc.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/omc-ned/abd-rapt-eng.htm
 
  • #635
There has been a lot of discussion on this thread about the motive for the kidnapping of HDB. I googled a few things and came up with the information below. Interesting reading regarding the motivation for kidnapping young children, the who's, the why's and some Canadian Legaleese regarding kidnapping etc.


http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/pubs/omc-ned/abd-rapt-eng.htm


Thank you, this is very interesting in a disturbing way.


I'm not sure what to make of this statement. Predisposition?


Moreover, child homicide usually follows an abduction and is not the reason for the abduction. Abduction-homicide studies have suggested that "a number of abductors kill their victims because of a predisposition to do so"
 
  • #636
Do the RCMP routinely store gas cans inside the yellow crime scene tape, where it could not only contaminate evidence, but start a fire and destroy it? I don't think so.

Sadly, I think the explanation is quite different. Look closely at the photo.

The two red boxes don't look identical to me.

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  • #637
If you examine Google earth you will find it a few kilometres north of
Blairmore. If you zoom it is North and slightly east from TB's house.

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In this screen shot TB's house is the red arrow at the bottom, the location of the rural property where HDB was found is the top right corner I have marked with the black bullseye icon. Hope this helps.

This may, or may not, be the body location - perhaps someone can compare the actual crime scene with this aerial image.

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  • #638
The restaurant where Hailey used to go with her grandfather is two doors down from the town's dry cleaning business. For some reason, the name of the dry cleaner has been blurred out by Google Streets, but only in one direction.

Two doors down from the dry cleaners: I think that is important. And the dry cleaning business is on the main road out of town in two directions, and around the corner from the other route leading to the highway (126th).

North of Blairmore, there is a road leading to the golf club. The other road north is much longer, and has a couple of branches.
 
  • #639
Right side of the photo, by the trees.
 
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It is a now-defunct subdivision that folded, leaving the town owed back taxes and investors out money. The town posted some of the lots for sale when the development company folded. I'm trying to establish where TB's house is in relation to the defunct development and the development office.

http://albertaventure.com/2011/05/troubled-waters/
http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=a8d9878d-80a2-4a80-b762-587626a56297&sponsor=

The first crime scene is here:
 

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