Canadian hostage, wife & children freed from Afghanistan, husband arrested for abuse, Oct 2017 #3

[bears10]

Canadian law is the same for everyone across the country regardless of wealth. Of note, the law doesn't change from Province to Province as it does from State to State.

Having an experienced lawyer helps, and that can cost more, but that is true everywhere.

do you seriously think cronyism doesn’t exist in every country, including Canada?

 

[bears10]

Major redpill/MGTOW vibes right now. Reddit is that way —->

 

[Medstudies]

Do you mean that Coleman and Boyle were denied contraception, or that Coleman was denied contraception but Boyle wasn't?

Did anyone else miss the part where I said “i had no way to know” ???

but hey, I do know that it took his sperm. And that sperm had to make it into her reproductive organs to cause a pregnancy... that’s how it usually happens.

Abstinence would have been full proof. Rhythm and withdraw / not so much.

 

[otto]

I’ve been wanting to bring this up since yesterday, but I had to pick my battles. I ABSOLUTELY think his fathers profession was a factor in JB waiving his right to a jury trial. Just my opinion.

One option to explain the failure of the prosecution to secure a guilty verdict is to suggest that the Canadian justice is corrupt, but it's more likely that there was a lack of evidence.

Perhaps the prosecution felt pressured to go forward with the trial, even though they didn't have evidence, because Coleman is a foreigner. I suspect that no prosecutor in the USA would have pursued this domestic dispute case since it was a waste of money, and could interfere with re-election.

 

[Medstudies]

do you seriously think cronyism doesn’t exist in every country, including Canada?

Lol.

 

[otto]

Did anyone else miss the part where I said “i had no way know” ???

but hey, I do know that it took his sperm. And that sperm had to make it into her reproductive organs to cause a pregnancy... that’s how it usually happens.

Abstinence would have been full proof. Rhythm and withdraw / not so much.

Coleman was pregnant when they travelled to Russia, so it's unlikely that either of them had contraception when they were captured. If Coleman was a willing participant when she got pregnant with their first child, it's reasonable to think that happened again. Who knows what the couple was thinking, but they kept having children.

 

[Lilibet]

Major redpill/MGTOW vibes right now. Reddit is that way —->

That’s a new one to me. As I like to say “Google is my friend.”

 

[Medstudies]

Coleman was pregnant when they travelled to Russia, so it's unlikely that either of them had contraception when they were captured. If Coleman was a willing participant when got pregnant with her first child, it's reasonable to think that happened again. Who knows what the couple was thinking, but they kept having children.

Lol you claimed this was just like “James foley” and “they were lucky to make it out alive” - so no!, that is hardly “reasonable”. It’s actually very UNreasonable.

(Oh and By the way, she kept having them. when did he push one out?)

so, imma gonna leave with “mmmkay”.

Because, unlike Coleman , I know when to walk away from an abuser.

 

[JDG]

I'm not convinced that terrorists give special privileges to male hostages. Men seem to lose their heads quite often during captivity.

The only men I know who lose their heads during captivity are those opposing the regime.

If, as his wife says, JB is a sympathizer, they would go easy on him I'd think.

 

[JDG]

I don't know what you mean. Coleman was a happy, healthy 27 year old woman who is completely capable of making her own decisions when she decided to go to Europe with Boyle. They were captured, they were tortured, and they survived.

From the trial, we know both were interested in consensual S&M, however Coleman alleges that there was one instance that was not consensual.

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Former Taliban hostage insists his American wife ASKED to be beaten with a broom as he denies abuse | Daily Mail Online

CB says, according to your link, that her husband raped and abused her during her captivity. She claims to be more afraid of him than of her guards.

That, in my mind, is much more than one instance that was not consensual.

She also says and always has said that her husband is a Taliban sympathizer.

 

[otto]

Lol you claimed this was just like “James foley” and “they were lucky to make it out alive” - so no!, that is hardly “reasonable”. It’s actually very UNreasonable.

(Oh and By the way, she kept having them. when did he push one out?)

so, imma gonna leave with “mmmkay”.

Because, unlike Coleman , I know when to walk away from an abuser.

Both men and young women are murdered by radical groups in that region. I don't understand the assumption that because he is a male prisoner, Boyle was treated better than Coleman.

 

[otto]

The only men I know who lose their heads during captivity are those opposing the regime.

If, as his wife says, JB is a sympathizer, they would go easy on him I'd think.

James Foley was not opposing the regime. He was a journalist. He lost his head. Kayla Mueller did not convert, she was killed.

Peter Kassig, a 26-year-old from Indiana, started a non-profit organization called Special Emergency Response and Assistance (SERA). He converted and still he lost his head. That was ISIS, this was Taliban.

I think that Coleman and Boyle did what they had to do to stay alive. If Boyle said that his wife is a sympathizer, maybe they would go easy on her. I'm not buying the idea that he was buddies with the terrorists and his wife was their hostage.

I cannot imagine that either of them was fit to parent the children after the release.

 

[bears10]

One option to explain the failure of the prosecution to secure a guilty verdict is to suggest that the Canadian justice is corrupt, but it's more likely that there was a lack of evidence.

Perhaps the prosecution felt pressured to go forward with the trial, even though they didn't have evidence, because Coleman is a foreigner. I suspect that no prosecutor in the USA would have pursued this domestic dispute case since it was a waste of money, and could interfere with re-election.

lol I actually think the opposite. that there would be prosecutors in the USA that wouldn’t hesitate to try this case. Most people aren’t keen on taliban sympathizers here. That 9/11 thingy might have something to do with it. So the chance to prosecute a wannabe terrorist who manipulated one of our citizens into going to Afghanistan and then (“Allegedly“- eyeroll) abusing her and their children? Yeah. JB was too scared to come here for a reason. What that reason is, I think most of us here can make our own reasonable assumptions. (Most of us)

Also- you just said yourself that there may have been a lack of evidence. Which is what people have been trying to tell you for hours. That a not guilty verdict doesn’t necessarily mean innocent. It could mean they can’t prove guilt. If your wife beat you up tonight while you were home alone, and you called the cops, how would you prove she beat you if you didn’t have witnesses or cameras? I would hope the cops and the public wouldn’t adamantly accuse you of lying bc of lack of proof.

 

[Lilibet]

Both men and young women are murdered by radical groups in that region. I don't understand the assumption that because he is a male prisoner, Boyle was treated better than Coleman.

Other than death, which they both faced, Coleman had much more reason to be (or feel) terrorized than Boyle simply by virtue of being a woman vulnerable to sexual abuse (among other indignities.) Again, this is not a competition, but you seem unwilling to acknowledge that women are at a huge disadvantage in a male-dominated society or situation. I’m not sure why you won’t acknowledge that fact...and it is a fact.

 

[bears10]

Coleman was pregnant when they travelled to Russia, so it's unlikely that either of them had contraception when they were captured. If Coleman was a willing participant when she got pregnant with their first child, it's reasonable to think that happened again. Who knows what the couple was thinking, but they kept having children.

apparently Canada doesn’t have rape shield laws or something?? But just because I willingly had sex with my husband 9 months ago doesn’t mean I agree to consent for the rest of our time together. Seriously, there are entire subreddits dedicated to likeminded men if you’re insistent on your stance regarding women, sex, and abuse.

 

[bears10]

That’s a new one to me. As I like to say “Google is my friend.”

okay boomer. TOTALLY KIDDING lol.

 

[Lilibet]

okay boomer. TOTALLY KIDDING lol.

LOL. Love it!

 

[bears10]

JB had issues long before they were released. Long before he ever stepped foot in the middle east. Remember his disturbing Wikepedia obsession? If not, the link below has detailed information about his Wikepedia activity, such as:



From Nazi women and Khadrs to Star Wars and torture: A look at Joshua Boyle’s vast Wikipedia edits

bump. Totally normal stuff. No biggie.

 

[bears10]

This is about the Canadian justice system. Law is entirely different than in the USA.

Oh ok gotcha.

 

[Medstudies]

apparently Canada doesn’t have rape shield laws or something?? But just because I willingly had sex with my husband 9 months ago doesn’t mean I agree to consent for the rest of our time together. Seriously, there are entire subreddits dedicated to likeminded men if you’re insistent on your stance regarding women, sex, and abuse.

Thank you! I meant to say this.

I’m staggered at the willful ignorance