Casey Anthony Legal Defense Strategies #2

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  • #621
Has anyone read this blog RC and Dr. Glass are talking about?

In spite of all that George has done or not done for Caylee, I refuse to get to the point where I will consider George tippy-toed out to the Caylee's remains and laid a single hair beside Caylee's body.

Uh - UH! Not even going to go there to consider it - there is too much insane stuff happening in this case already.
 
  • #622
Just read the updates and can't believe the defense's latest motion, but I have to say that I did half expect it. I guess Casey didn't have enough opportunities to sell her dear dead daughter off. Financially ruin her? Since when did she even have "finances" that were truly...and only...hers!!

What kinda cockamamie stategy is this? It's so insulting to Caylee's memory. We ALL know where she got money from.

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Well, KC did have that opportunity to make a real killing with the "book" deal that Todd Black said had to be put in the drawer ($700,000) because the judge went and ruined it. So I can see why KC might be out to get even with the judge. Just because her attorney can't legally broker such a deal should not stand in KC's way to get what she wants. I mean, it never has before. Right?
 
  • #623
I think it is hard to pin down a defense strategy at this point. Strategy is always changing, shifting, and reworked based on where things stand.

A defense plan typically includes standards regardless of the case at hand. Standards such as discrediting witnesses, finding loopholes in law, keeping unwanted evidence out of trial, pleas, etc....

A true strategy is an ever evolving entity of its own. One that is formulated skillfully, and one that is mindful of ALL the information that can be used against the client. A strategy follows a specific thought process from beginning to end while introducing supporting evidence and having a backup if the strategy is derailed by the prosecution, witness testimony, or expert findings.

I think from day one of JB's involvement, he has been attempting to develop a strategy. I also think that he has previously conducted and continues to conduct, a defense "litmus" test for his strategies. He has been dipping his toe into a number of waters (muddy and otherwise) in an attempt to measure the likelihood of success for any number of strategies.

I look back at his strong opposition to a gag order. While I personally don't doubt that a large (well maybe huge) part of his reasoning was self serving, I also recognize that by ensuring a gag order was not imposed, he has been able to use the general public as his sounding board, practice field, mock trial jury.

I think it is safe to assume that the defense team reads the forums and blogs. Have we not noticed on more than one occasion that comments made here and elsewhere have been quoted? Have we noticed that comments about anything from KC's appearance to JB's pocket squares have been addressed?

Public opinion is VERY important to the defense team. By determining that which we find most offensive, repugnant, and unethical, the team can plan accordingly.

Andrea Lyon has said in her lectures that your brain processes language at a speed considerably faster than speech. In other words, she knows her jurors are listening to her and while she is still speaking, the juror is already formulating a question or an objection to her statement almost simultaneously.

Her goal is to answer that question while she is still speaking.

By anticipating all of the questions, opinions, and objections of their potential jury, the defense can refute and overcome them without a question being asked.

The stage play Tot Mom was touted by Soderbergh as an experiment in social behaviors (or something similar). His strategy for generating interest and creating anticipation was unique. As an example....He used remarks from the theater ticketing website as a form of "guerrilla" marketing. Cryptic twitter posts between Cate Blanchett and her husband hyping a mystery project were released in an effort to stir things up. The list goes on.....

When comparing the play to the defense......we see JB using blogs, forums, and media in his strategy and in his motions. We see cryptic comments with no further explanation (When it goes to trial everyone will understand.) and last minute motion filings with a media leak.

IMO.........JB's arguing against the gag order was based on his intent to use Guerrilla marketing and conduct litmus tests. Perhaps, a more appropriate field for Mr. Baez to have chosen would have in that arena as opposed to the practice of law. He seems to have gotten a bit wrapped up in that aspect as opposed to building an actual defense.

Or maybe.......that WAS and IS.....his strategy? Time will tell. It always does.
 
  • #624
It also helps defense if you have a client who doesn't change her story every time there's a full moon. jmo
 
  • #625
The defense will possibly attempt to argue that LE didn't do enough to search for a live Caylee. This comment from Dominic Casey may come into play....

DominicLE.jpg

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/09/29/anthony.d.pdf
 
  • #626
It also helps defense if you have a client who doesn't change her story every time there's a full moon. jmo

ITA. It also helps to have a client that doesn't consistently and continuously sink her own ship. I mean seriously, as much as I hate Baez, Casey has to be a nightmare for him. Of course, he helped create this nightmare, but still.

I really think he sought out CM to put an end to this ugly thing. Too bad he was more greedy for money and the limelight than to put a leash on his own client and make her obey simple things like "shut your mouth" and "don't write letters to other inmates".

I swear, Friday can't come fast enough!
 
  • #627
Was over on the Theories of what happened to Caylee thread, and LiveLaughLove posted an article from clickorlando re the timing theories, that I'd forgotten about.

It was interesting to reconsider the timeline, and as I read further through the article, I see that Tony Piptone has quoted Mason several times.

Since I have yet to learn how to link, I'll just put the quote here, because I will be fascinated to see how Mason actually handles this complete about face in court.

The article is titled: Signs point to Caylee's ID dated December 12, 2008., on clickorlando, by Tony Piptone.(or at least he is primarily who is quoted)

This was Mason's opinion as of December 12, 2008;

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life".

So apparently our Mr. C. Mason really likes a good circus.

What the heck kind of a defense strategy is going on here anyway?
 
  • #628
Was over on the Theories of what happened to Caylee thread, and LiveLaughLove posted an article from clickorlando re the timing theories, that I'd forgotten about.

It was interesting to reconsider the timeline, and as I read further through the article, I see that Tony Piptone has quoted Mason several times.

Since I have yet to learn how to link, I'll just put the quote here, because I will be fascinated to see how Mason actually handles this complete about face in court.

The article is titled: Signs point to Caylee's ID dated December 12, 2008., on clickorlando, by Tony Piptone.(or at least he is primarily who is quoted)

This was Mason's opinion as of December 12, 2008;

"You can pretty well predict there's going to be a life sentence, either a plea and get it over with or have a circus trial and then be convicted and get life".

So apparently our Mr. C. Mason really likes a good circus.

What the heck kind of a defense strategy is going on here anyway?

Wouldn't that statement indicate to you that Mr. Mason had already formed an opinion about KC's guilt????
 
  • #629
Wouldn't that statement indicate to you that Mr. Mason had already formed an opinion about KC's guilt????

D'Ya Think? LOL!
 
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Whew.....thanks. For a second there I was wondering if I was having a "senior moment".

About face at trial from obviously thinking she was guilty to watching him be part of the "innocence" Defense team and walking out of court with her on his arm. This I want to see in court.

What I am seeing is a guy who really is just a little boy at heart who always wanted to run away and join the circus.

I don't really remember any of those stories ending well, Mr. Mason.
 
  • #632
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHMNxkI4iMk&feature=PlayList&p=36B3E53DBDA1C2F2&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1
(click url at top)
Well going as far back as August 6, 2008 I think the strategy was the kidnappers and the note story.
In this video CA gives a 9:19 min. presser in front of her open garage (think I saw a shot of the washing machine too)

At :57 sec.



Later in this video she talks about jail visits being released to the public and how that could be harmful to Caylee (the 30/31 day kidnap note) But when she makes this response to the reporter she doesn't address this "jail visitation" issue. To me, the comments are not related. The above statement appears to be literally in reference to defense strategy for KC.




Thanks for posting this Cindy interview. It's good. We need reminding constantly of what was going on back then because the facts will keep getting morphed.

Starting around 4:15 sec the interviewer asks Cindy about Casey's myspace and partying actions during the time Caylee was missing. OMG, Cindy wiggles her way through it so feebly! She ends up stating "Actions speak louder than words." Yes, Casey actions speak louder than words, we agree.

Watch this video if you want to see Cindy at her finest with her hocus pocus talk change everything to just the way she wants.
 
  • #633
Wouldn't that statement indicate to you that Mr. Mason had already formed an opinion about KC's guilt????
:snooty:He's not the first talking head to do the exact same turnabout- so did Mark Geragos in the Scott Peterson case.
 
  • #634
Wouldn't that statement indicate to you that Mr. Mason had already formed an opinion about KC's guilt????


Wow wouldn't statements like that make it kind of a conflict for him to be now part of her defense? It seems rather odd to me after such vocalizations, or am I wrong?!
 
  • #635
Wow wouldn't statements like that make it kind of a conflict for him to be now part of her defense? It seems rather odd to me after such vocalizations, or am I wrong?!

I guess he could make the kind of feeble excuses that he really didn't have the inside information the Defense has when he initially made those statements.....

How's that working for you?
 
  • #636
About face at trial from obviously thinking she was guilty to watching him be part of the "innocence" Defense team and walking out of court with her on his arm. This I want to see in court.

What I am seeing is a guy who really is just a little boy at heart who always wanted to run away and join the circus.

I don't really remember any of those stories ending well, Mr. Mason.

I'd like to ask ole Cheney if he'd let KC babysit his own grandchildren after they walk out "arm in arm"! :rolleyes:
 
  • #637
Perhaps daily prayer to St. Ivo of Kermartin.............
Bold by me as it is familiar in some way..... hmmmmmmmmmmmm


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  • #638
Now defense wants us to believe that someone took Caylee and placed her body at the site after the September TES search and that this person may be responsible for Caylee's death. Isn't this a really big stretch of the imagination?? How would this make KC any less responsible? Still is her child and KC lied to LE.

Also KC's description of what she was wearing when she last saw her does not match the clothes at the remains site. We know from pictures the shirt belonged to Caylee. How will KC explain that away. She gave the shirt to the real killer and said, "Here, make sure you put this on her.....it's a message to my mother." So far defense's stategy does not make sense to me. jmo
 
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About face at trial from obviously thinking she was guilty to watching him be part of the "innocence" Defense team and walking out of court with her on his arm. This I want to see in court.

What I am seeing is a guy who really is just a little boy at heart who always wanted to run away and join the circus.

I don't really remember any of those stories ending well, Mr. Mason.

Whenever he appears I have this mental image of Foghorn Leghorn strutting around - "I say, I say I say" it just won't go away :dance: I'm afraid I can't take him seriously..
 
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