Casey's Diary Entry for June 21st & Missing Pages #2

[beach]

Thinking out loud here...

The message is so cryptic and as much as I want to believe and want proof that it was written in 2008, I have a hunch this could have been written in 2005. (And, I know that does not explain away the '03 entry.) However, considering the FBI impression analysis, I think it is possible Casey wrote this soon after SHE found out she was pregnant with Caylee. I need to study the entire entry again....

However, it would explain CA claiming on LKL that it was written in 2005. Her evil eye look aimed at Conway when he offered to turn it over to LE could have been because a really good sleuth might be able to figure out who Caylee's father is.

 

[Oakley]

Good question. Maybe just leave it there knowing it would be brought out and the answer to everyone's question about it implicating KC would be "no it does not, she wrote that diary in 2003". And Cindy might feel "see how everyone is jumping to conclusions and here is proof that they were ONCE again wrong".

You mean something along the lines of:

"If the date in the diary doesn't fit, you must acquit."

 

[beach]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/casey-anthony-s-2003-high-school-yearbook-for-sale-on-ebay

In its description, the seller writes, “Accused murderer Casey Anthony the Tot Mom is a Junior and is also pictured in the Travel & Tourism Club.”


May I ask. Where had KC traveled and toured prior to membership in the club????
Just thought I would post link since 2003 is such a hot topic right now. KC was a Junior in 2003.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/2003-COLONIAL-HIGH-SCHOOL-BOOK-ORLANDO-FLORIDA-TOT-MOM-/370248537141

Maybe she was already contemplating her RV missionary tour?

 

[sleutherontheside]

An aside.....as far as Marcus....there is someone that gradualted from Colonial in 2003 with that as part of their name. A few google myspace 2003 colonial queries pops one up.

 

[OpenMind4U]

IMO, regardless which page comes first and which comes second - I think it's VERY important that this FBI report has been part of the latest documents 'dump'. I have a feeling, pretty soon we'll hear arguments between lawyers in regards of this journal: to consider this evidence as 'admissible' for trial or not. I believe this fiasco with '03' when the actual product has been distributed in 2004 will raise interesting arguments......JMO

 

[Unsolved]

You mean something along the lines of:

"If the date in the diary doesn't fit, you must acquit."

I'd like to know just what date she started writing with all the little "dots" on her letters. :waitasec:

Way back in April - on the jail house letters thread - I posted this silly thing I noticed, and I thought maybe I would throw it in here too since it also concerns the journal. Sorry if all of you already saw this, but it still nags me :innocent:

In those jail house letters Casey uses the same writing with the little "dots":

as she does on the journal:

Think she did this in '03? Do they have old diaries?

(Oops! Edited to add link for letters with "dots"
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069597/detail.html

 

[Capri]

I'd like to know just what date she started writing with all the little "dots" on her letters. :waitasec:

Way back in April - on the jail house letters thread - I posted this silly thing I noticed, and I thought maybe I would throw it in here too since it also concerns the journal. Sorry if all of you already saw this, but it still nags me :innocent:

In those jail house letters Casey uses the same writing with the little "dots":

as she does on the journal:

(Oops! Edited to add link for letters with "dots"
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069597/detail.html

We used to call it dit dots, Very jr. high, which I'm guessing is where she pretty much got stuck. They even had stores at the mall here that would put kids names on items in dit dot letters and that was back in the 80's.

 

[Mystic]

<snip> BBM

This might have *swoosh* flown right over my head at first glance -

JWG, are you suggesting the "'03" might have indicated it was the 3rd journal in a series?

I use to journal alot and numbered my journals. Sometimes I would also number pages to group a section i wrote in one sitting or about a certain topic/idea. I'm trying to think of anything that 03 would refers to for Casey.

Mystic

 

[Capri]

I'm with you. I think Marcus could be MH. It's the right timing.

I haven't been able to find any reference on the forum to the European slash through the Z on Seize the Day. That's usually done to 7's and Z's. Casey nor George have the slash through their 7's. I haven't found a written Z for them yet. I think it's used in the medical field though. Mrs. A perhaps?

I also haven't found Lee's handwriting. I'm kind of wondering if he had anything to do with it. Didn't the LE say he knows what he's done.

Justa guessing.

Check out ICA's Z's in her jailhouse letters. There are 2 on this one page , Zenaida, and Zany, neither with the slash across the midddle. Not that I think that means much, I think she's pretty much inconsistent in a lot of things, so....
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069597/detail.html - on page--10, about halfway down the pg

 

[doogiesgirl]

i'd like to know just what date she started writing with all the little "dots" on her letters. :waitasec:

Way back in april - on the jail house letters thread - i posted this silly thing i noticed, and i thought maybe i would throw it in here too since it also concerns the journal. Sorry if all of you already saw this, but it still nags me :innocent:

In those jail house letters casey uses the same writing with the little "dots":

as she does on the journal:

think she did this in '03? Do they have old diaries?

(oops! Edited to add link for letters with "dots"
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23069597/detail.html

ah....that....is.....goood!!

 

[Gnatcatcher]

Casey could have written that entry at any time. She was in and out of the Anthony home a lot during those 31 days. She possibly could have torn out the previous pages during this 31 days and wrote this entry for Cindy to read. I tend to believe that Casey had no problem leaving little cryptic messages for Cindy. She went in and took Caylee's teddy bear... the one Cindy was sleeping with to comfort her while Caylee was gone. Casey was taunting Cindy, in a way... actually, there is no way about it... she was taunting Cindy.

The '03?? Well the only important thing I guess is that it was impossible for this to be written in '03. Cindy even went on Larry King Live and the Diary page was brought up and Cindy states that it was written in 2005... Brad Conway corrects Cindy and says that it was written in 2003. Cindy didn't look very happy with BC when he said that he would be willing to turn it over to the SA. She was shooting him some daggers!!

Conversation starts at 2:43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l0R65vo2f4&feature=player_detailpage

Thanks for that, was interesting to see again. Cindy makes a big stink over how the diary is NOT evidence, corrects Brad when he said it was released in discovery, saying it was NOT released in discovery, but someone at the sheriff's office took a picture, "leaked" it to the media, who then ran with it. So 1) is that true, that the sheriff's office leaked it to the media, and 2) if it was NOT evidence, was clarified as completely irrelevant as Cindy claims, why would Brad be keeping it as an officer of the court? Why not just leave it in Casey's room like everything else?

 

[doogiesgirl]

I tend to doubt that Cindy would keep the journal if she found it and thought it incriminating, and would instead destroy it if she thought LE would ever search the home and find it. Cindy would need a heckuva reason for keeping the journal rather than destroying it, and then writing that '03 to throw off an investigator just in case they had a reason to search the home in the future.

Instead, I believe KC wrote that '03 for some yet unknown reason. And again, I doubt it would be to throw off an investigation. I don't see her as thinking that far ahead, that the diary might be found and might be used to incriminate her. Why '03 and not '07 or '02?

Instead of a year, what other things could the '03 signify? A month perhaps, such as the month of March when the chloroform searches took place. :waitasec:

I hate to even write this but.....expanding on your what other things could '03 signify thought.....could she be turning that into a phrase? Such as "owe three" as in I owe 3 people _____whatever? As in Caylee, CA & GA? And she got caught before she could finish her plan? IDK, I can see her thinking up that kind of thing, thinking that she is so clever and no one will ever get it.
Didn't really think this out all the way before I posted but you get the gist.

moo

 

[TotallyObsessed]

WOW. The SAO has left no stone unturned. Love how they got the freaking secret service unit to analyze the INK on the diary. WOW! I think all is over now except the crying...because it is very, very obvious to me that LB will mop the floor with the defense in trial. It is evidenced thus far by the way she conducts herself in open court, the way she OBLITERATED LB in that deposition - she is one IN CONTROL WOMAN. Now, I absolutely love JA, but that man has a temper and can be easily baited. Evidenced by LB's attorney exchange with him in that depo. I think had they been in the same room, somebody would have gone home with a shiner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Marina2]

To me, the '03 clearly represents the year 2003. If the apostrophe wasn't there, I could, maybe, entertain the thought of it representing something else. So, the questions left for me are:

Why put the year '03 into a journal entry written in a journal that wasn't even sold until 2004?
Who wrote '03 on the top of that page?

Also, I know that the ink could not be matched to one in the ink library database but I wonder if the ink from the '03 was a match for the ink on the rest of the page and the subsequent page. Was this comparison made?

On a side note, when this diary first came out I did some reading on ink analysis and was surprised to find out that ink manufacturers actually put a component into the ink to help identify and date the ink used on documents.

 

[~ Amy ~]

I have always thought the "03" was her way of making a half of an 08 just to throw people off.

 

[LambChop]

WOW. The SAO has left no stone unturned. Love how they got the freaking secret service unit to analyze the INK on the diary. WOW! I think all is over now except the crying...because it is very, very obvious to me that LB will mop the floor with the defense in trial. It is evidenced thus far by the way she conducts herself in open court, the way she OBLITERATED LB in that deposition - she is one IN CONTROL WOMAN. Now, I absolutely love JA, but that man has a temper and can be easily baited. Evidenced by LB's attorney exchange with him in that depo. I think had they been in the same room, somebody would have gone home with a shiner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And isn't there a secret service agent on the State's witness list???? So this could come in.

 

[2goldfish]

IIRC, there is a Kenneth on one of the witness lists released, listed as a penalty phase withness, former highschool boyfriend


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t1IKoWtQFXbILJ9pVMwT-c0dXhXOtFw-u5N2jfvVJM0/edit?hl=en&pli=1#

well.....now that I've gotten over my shock, I suspect this answers the old question of who the daddy is. why else would casey's bf from HS (specifically, before jesse) be on the penalty phase witness list? if so that must mean he knows. how devastating.

 

[Sparky]

I think the 03 Could stand for March, which is the month KC was born. Maybe she started the journal in March?

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I think the 03 Could stand for March, which is the month KC was born. Maybe she started the journal in March?

'03 is just a very common way kids (teens, young adults) refer to a year. My daughter graduated in 2007 and all her graduation stuff - from albums to photo books - say '07.

 

[AZlawyer]

Thanks for that, was interesting to see again. Cindy makes a big stink over how the diary is NOT evidence, corrects Brad when he said it was released in discovery, saying it was NOT released in discovery, but someone at the sheriff's office took a picture, "leaked" it to the media, who then ran with it. So 1) is that true, that the sheriff's office leaked it to the media, and 2) if it was NOT evidence, was clarified as completely irrelevant as Cindy claims, why would Brad be keeping it as an officer of the court? Why not just leave it in Casey's room like everything else?

It was not leaked. The photo was produced to the media along with all the other photos from the search of the Anthony home, pursuant to the Sunshine Laws.

However, the fact that something is released by the SA is not an indication that it will or will not be offered as evidence at trial.