Casey's Lies

[The World According]

Both sides were under the premise that it was June 9th. I call that confused.

I do not believe in death by youtube. I have a right to that opinion. Its a dangerous tool that takes many things out of context. The context being June 9th. The falsehood being June 9th. The confusion being June 9th. Moo

When one person tells a lie, two people are not confused. Ask any cheating spouse, and their divorce lawyer. One person is lying, period!

There is no grand you tube conspiracy against the defendant. Our very own Patti posts many, many, many of the recordings and she is above reproach in my view. Thank goodness she does; because, people read here from all over the world and WebSleuths enjoys a solid reputation of not posting anything we cannot prove.
When something is memorialized by detectives recording the conversation or by a jail recording a visitation, that of course is a reliable method to refresh our memories. Such recordings are commonly used in trials. If I post it, you have my word that I have not altered the recording in any manner, so therefore it is not out of context. You could find the same recordings from the local news sites or cable shows. You'll certainly be hearing these recorded police interviews in the trial! You Tube is simply a convenient way for me to post them while we are chatting. Now that I think of it, I would be proud to vouch for any member here. It is the defense, not us, who releases highly edited videos that make no sense, and incomplete as they are would never, ever be allowed into the trial!. If you get it from here, I highly doubt it is out of context. Out there on other blogs, you are on your own. LOL!

Casey's lies are evil! Focus on why we are here. Let's keep out eye on the ball. A innocent baby is dead! Forever! We aren't talking about who ate all the cookies in the empty cookie jar. She lied and lied to local LE, Federal Officers, search officials, her entire community and her family while they all were trying to find her missing baby, all the while knowing the baby was out in the woods decomposing, having been thrown away like trash, allegedly. There is nothing innocuous about the evil, lies she told and continues to tell. It is shocking to me for anyone to suggest lying to investigators is not that bad. Why would you, how could you accept that from anyone with a missing child? What in the world could be a worse thing to lie about? This is not just my opinion, Google: punishment for lying to a federal officer. IT IS A FELONY!!!!

Casey is about to find out how her lies serve her. I try not to respond to things I believe are meant as a joke,so please just laugh and say oh Julia ..if you were kidding me. I am very passionate about the hardworking, devoted people that were lied to. I cannot let that stand, even a hint at them being disparaged as not being very bright. My grandmother used to tell us, "If you don't speak up...even God won't hear you!" The LE in a homicide case see the worst of the worst every day. A lesser person, such as myself, could not do the job they do. They deserve our respect and common decency demands it! If the defense wants to come up against these good, good people they better come prepared with something a whole lot better than "Death by You Tube". IMO when the jury hears her lying, admitting she is lying throughout those police interviews ...it is over. Cut , scene, sentencing phase! In the words of Mark Klaas, " The truth does not change!"

You may find it instructive to study the impressive careers of the detectives you are opining about. It may change your mind about the success of their methods, or even look in to police interviewing tactics in general. I cannot even respond to your "Death by You Tube" except to imagine that you are having a little fun with us. We need a laugh in this very serious case. It gets to us all at times.

 

[notthatsmart]

Sometimes the police do not get the opportunity to hear the truth. It sure would make their job easy, I mean if everyone told them the truth, then why would we need them to investigate anything. Kc's lies to police are not that bad in my opinion. So she lied to them to get them out there to look at tapes. Sometimes when 3 people are asking questions at the same time, you are answering one and they are applying your answer to others. There are innocent people who have testified how bad it is to be interrogated by the police, you go into some kind of trance, you can't even think straight. It is so much pressure. I say, how could they possibly get to the truth with those techniques? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Appie Wells had the best approach. IMO

 

[notthatsmart]

Have you been talking to the Defense? I only ask because your phrase "I do not believe in death by youtube" sounds like something I would expect AL to say. If I were you, I'd sure be listening to all future hearings because if that phrase comes out of AL's or JB's mouth I'd figure they swiped it from you or...
Anyway, I'm sure gonna be listening for that phrase.

Thank you. That is my phrase. I created it in response to people who believe in it so much. There is an old John Fogerty song called I believe it because I saw it on Tv. lol I doubt very much the defense wants anything to do with me. I see no evidence that they read here. Do you?

 

[snowbun]

Do you understand that a baby was reported to be supposedly "missing" here? With the report of a "kidnapped baby", exactly how long do you think LE should just "sit and wait" for Casey to come clean, allowing her her freedoms while she lies to LE and plays a game of cat and mouse with them?

Do you understand LE already had 31 days lag-time due to Casey concealing the fact that Caylee hadn't been seen for that period of time? So to you, 31 days "just wasn't enough", right?

Really? You really believe she should have had more time? More time for what, exactly, dream up more lies? If Caylee's life really had been on the line during that time, (which we now know Caylee was already long-since murdered by Casey), and it really had been a legit "kidnapping, LE is just supposed to sit idly by twiddling their thumbs until "Casey decides"?

And for any mother who hadn't murdered her baby, there would be no such thing as your line, "they lost her", referencing Casey. Any mother whose baby really was kidnapped would be screaming, begging, crying with LE for "HELP! Please help me find my baby!" There is no such thing as "lost her", as though LE was required to participate in this "game" Casey initiated, and since LE refused to play, then they "lost her"?

Unbelievable!

And yes, LE has plenty of Casey's words on record. More than enough! If they didn't, she certainly wouldn't be rotting away in jail for nearly 2 years.

Your response is brilliant too!
When KC was asked by the detectives, and I'm paraphrasing here, what would she do to help find her daughter if she were them (LE) and she replied "I don't know" ... I thought ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That right there is a big clue she could care less and was lying her b**t off. I think caring mothers would be all over it making all sorts of suggestions to help find their baby! I know I would have! IMO age is no excuse either...I was a young mother of 2 by the time I was 21 for pete's sake.

 

[christee]

sometimes the police do not get the opportunity to hear the truth. It sure would make their job easy, i mean if everyone told them the truth, then why would we need them to investigate anything. Kc's lies to police are not that bad in my opinion. So she lied to them to get them out there to look at tapes. Sometimes when 3 people are asking questions at the same time, you are answering one and they are applying your answer to others. There are innocent people who have testified how bad it is to be interrogated by the police, you go into some kind of trance, you can't even think straight. It is so much pressure. I say, how could they possibly get to the truth with those techniques? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Appie wells had the best approach. Imo

bbm...
With all sincerity...really? I mean, seriously?

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Have you been talking to the Defense? I only ask because your phrase "I do not believe in death by youtube" sounds like something I would expect AL to say. If I were you, I'd sure be listening to all future hearings because if that phrase comes out of AL's or JB's mouth I'd figure they swiped it from you or...
Anyway, I'm sure gonna be listening for that phrase.

"Death by youtube" sounds like a catchy phrase, but in all actuality, it is absolutely meaningless.

For one thing, the videos featured in this case on youtube are of documented, actual happenings released straight from the jail house. They are not a fabrication, not "someone's opinion", but are instead, FACT of Casey's lies, Casey's carefree demeanor, and the very worst and unforgivable, Casey's complete disregard for Caylee.

Also, there is no such thing as "Death by youtube", a Death Qualified Jury will make that determination, in tandem with Judge Perry.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Your response is brilliant too!
When KC was asked by the detectives, and I'm paraphrasing here, what would she do to help find her daughter if she were them (LE) and she replied "I don't know" ... I thought ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That right there is a big clue she could care less and was lying her b**t off. I think caring mothers would be all over it making all sorts of suggestions to help find their baby! I know I would have! IMO age is no excuse either...I was a young mother of 2 by the time I was 21 for pete's sake.

Thank you, but I have to seriously wonder what is wrong in our society that some have such disregard for the dignity of the only true victim in this case, which is Caylee Marie Anthony.

This case is not "all about Casey", how she could have and should have been molly-coddled more, appeased more, and how such dastardly "wrongs" have been done to the self-proclaimed "spiteful b!tch".

 

[RR0004]

Thank you. That is my phrase. I created it in response to people who believe in it so much. There is an old John Fogerty song called I believe it because I saw it on Tv. lol I doubt very much the defense wants anything to do with me. I see no evidence that they read here. Do you?

Evidence...just the As as far as I know. I think the defense sticks to MD. LOL

 

[RR0004]

Sometimes the police do not get the opportunity to hear the truth. It sure would make their job easy, I mean if everyone told them the truth, then why would we need them to investigate anything. Kc's lies to police are not that bad in my opinion. So she lied to them to get them out there to look at tapes. Sometimes when 3 people are asking questions at the same time, you are answering one and they are applying your answer to others. There are innocent people who have testified how bad it is to be interrogated by the police, you go into some kind of trance, you can't even think straight. It is so much pressure. I say, how could they possibly get to the truth with those techniques? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Appie Wells had the best approach. IMO

Just curious...if the tapes were so important...why not say so when the police first arrived? Why go the entire day taking them to ficticious places? I really want to understand why taking them to Universal to view tapes is viewed as being the "truth" when everything up to that point was not true at all?

 

[snowbun]

Thank you, but I have to seriously wonder what is wrong in our society that some have such little disregard for the dignity of the only true victim in this case, which is Caylee Marie Anthony.

This case is not "all about Casey", how she could have and should have been molly-coddled more, appeased more, and how such dastardly "wrongs" have been done to the self-proclaimed "spiteful b!tch".

Yes! ITA I too worry about society, sigh... Some of the things I've heard the defense say in court just blow me away! Thank God for people like LDB and JA and of course the reasonable folk who will be on the jury!

 

[snowbun]

Just curious...if the tapes were so important...why not say so when the police first arrived? Why go the entire day taking them to ficticious places? I really want to understand why taking them to Universal to view tapes is viewed as being the "truth" when everything up to that point was not true at all?

Good points. IMO all lies due to cover up mode.

 

[RR0004]

Both sides were under the premise that it was June 9th. I call that confused.

I do not believe in death by youtube. I have a right to that opinion. Its a dangerous tool that takes many things out of context. The context being June 9th. The falsehood being June 9th. The confusion being June 9th. Moo

If Casey said June 9th that's another lie she told police. They immediately went and checked all her stories and that one was another one that proved to be false...but ya have to wonder how you don't remember the last day you saw your own daughter. The best...I dropped her off between 9am-1pm. If that wasn't contrived, I don't know what is.

 

[Curious Me]

"The lies weren't that bad" just means some people may have a loose definition of what telling the truth means. Personally, I lie the whole TRUTH.

 

[The World According]

I know everyone knows this, but in the words of the honorable Judge Perry, " Just so all minds are clear" ....you tube videos are often used in criminal trials.
We are done with that, now back to Casey's lies.....how much time do you have?

Let us remember what Mr. Miller, and the thousands of people that came from near and far to search through the muck and mire thought of Casey's lies!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raHlPVJEabU[/ame]

Sometimes I think regarding Caylee's case...you are either with her
or you are against her getting justice. Let your conscience be your guide.
I think Casey's lies were and are vile, VILE!!!!
Mr. Miller says here he wished that Casey, mom and pop could have been on the line to hear all the other families that called TES that they had to turn down ;because, they were spending so much time and resources there looking for Caylee, based on guess what...Casey's lies!!!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-P2NEQz17s[/ame]
The Anthonys lost a good attorney that could have responsibly helped them through this nightmare, because of Casey's lies!!!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ENR8RQSwTU[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ajibgshx94[/ame] If you have never heard this one, listen very carefully. Mark reveals that EARLY ON it became apparent to him that Casey was responsible for what happened to Caylee, so he bailed. He not only resigned, he promptly donated the 5k he made on the case to Mr. Kronk!!!!! Clearly , that was one of my favorite moments in this mess!! If we are picking sides ...I'd say he is on team Caylee.

God bless Texas Equusearch, all that volunteered, donated and all of you that prayed.

 

[RR0004]

I know everyone knows this, but in the words of the honorable Judge Perry, " Just so all minds are clear" ....you tube videos are often used in criminal trials.
We are done with that, now back to Casey's lies.....how much time do you have?

IMO, every last video that you post serves as evidence.
Thanks for all that you do!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I know everyone knows this, but in the words of the honorable Judge Perry, " Just so all minds are clear" ....you tube videos are often used in criminal trials.
We are done with that, now back to Casey's lies.....how much time do you have?

Let us remember what Mr. Miller, and the thousands of people that came from near and far to search through the muck and mire thought of Casey's lies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raHlPVJEabU

Sometimes I think regarding Caylee's case...you are either with her
or you are against her getting justice. Let your conscience be your guide.
I think Casey's lies were and are vile, VILE!!!!

:blowkiss: Thank you, thank you, thank you for your last paragraph! It's very uplifting, particularly at a time when Casey's evil lies about her innocent baby daughter are said to be, "not that bad".

Let your conscience be your guide, indeed!

 

[Disguiseduser0308]

Oh, dear NTS, any lie to LE is bad. Very bad. Especially bad when you have a two year old child missing. Yep, it's bad.

 

[Turnadot]

"The lies weren't that bad" just means some people may have a loose definition of what telling the truth means. Personally, I lie the whole TRUTH.

KC lied to LE and led them on a wild goose chase, wasting valuable time and resources while people were desperately trying to find her missing baby. But hey, I mean, lying to the cops isn't that bad when your own child has been allegedly kidnapped and the baby's life may be on the line.

It takes all kinds.

:banghead:


Imo, imo, imo, imo!!!

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by notthatsmart
Sometimes the police do not get the opportunity to hear the truth. It sure would make their job easy, I mean if everyone told them the truth, then why would we need them to investigate anything. Kc's lies to police are not that bad in my opinion. So she lied to them to get them out there to look at tapes. Sometimes when 3 people are asking questions at the same time, you are answering one and they are applying your answer to others. There are innocent people who have testified how bad it is to be interrogated by the police, you go into some kind of trance, you can't even think straight. It is so much pressure. I say, how could they possibly get to the truth with those techniques? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Appie Wells had the best approach. IMO

If police do not get to hear the truth it's only due to the one being interrogated having something to hide, IMO..ever hear the phrase, the truth will set you free??? ICA couldn't tell the truth because it implicated her! Ironic she was arrested for lying to authorities if lying isn't that bad!

Lying to police is a crime, lying to police that are already 31 days behind an alleged kidnapping is outrageous. Where is the LOVE for your child that you can't give LE truthful statements? Because the one being interrogated is involved in Caylee's demise, IMO

Again, the date of June 9th came out of the Anthony family as being the last time they "remember" seeing Caylee. When the police tiredlessly, checked into all statements made by ICA, GA/CA/LA, went to Mount Dora to check this, they realized June 9th date was incorrect and June 15th was actually the last time Caylee was captured on video, alive! The police don't have a crystal ball to tell them the truth, they must rely on the family to give truthful statements, if they are to find a child, an adult even a pet!

It's absurd to say a mother lying about her child (while it's imperative for her to be found), isn't that bad! I don't know what planet people come from when they feel anything ICA said/did, she did/said to "protect" Caylee! That's the image CA wanted out there for all to see/know but it falls short due to never, ever locating this alleged Zani the nanny, no phone calls, no phone numbers, ICA is an avid photo taker, yet not one photo of Caylee with this alleged nanny who has "babysat" for Caylee for over 2 years..JMHO


Ignorace is bliss and might add that ignorance is no excuse when it comes to the law...JMHO

:banghead:

Justice for Caylee

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

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interrogation (4)
Once police have arrested me, do I have to answer their questions?
No. If you're arrested you have the right to remain silent and to see an attorney.

If you're arrested, don't rely on police to inform you of your right to remain silent and see a lawyer. Use the magic words "I'm going to remain silent. I would like to see a lawyer." If police persist in questioning you, repeat the magic words. The magic words are like a legal condom. They're your best protection if you're under arrest.

Remember that anything you say can and will be used against you in court. So don't try to talk yourself out of the situation, and don't make small talk with police either.

If you are innocent, it is especially important not to talk to the police until you have a lawyer. Our prisons are full of people who claim they are innocent, and many of those people are actually telling the truth.

To learn more, watch the famous "Never Talk to the Police" lecture by Regent University Law School Professor James Duane. It's followed up by an equally compelling lecture by Officer George Bruch who talks about how he successfully interrogates suspects.



What happens if I lie to police?
The reason you should avoid lying to police is the same reason you should avoid talking to police. (See "If I'm innocent, should I talk to police?")

Whether or not you have information that could incriminate you or others, you should resist the urge to try to talk yourself out of a situation and try to remain silent instead. Police may not hold your silence against you as evidence of guilt.

Police are generally good at detecting lies, and getting caught in a lie may give an officer more justification to detain you. Regardless, if police are questioning you, you are probably considered a suspect and -- depending upon the situation -- you should be prepared to assert your rights by:
a) refusing search requests ("Officer, I don't consent to any searches."),
b) determining if you are free to go ("Officer, am I free to go?"), and
c) remaining silent until you see a lawyer ("I'm going to remain silent. I want to see a lawyer.").http://flexyourrights.org/faq