Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #61

[lv2bgoing]

when LE or CSI went into the house today to get evidence that they could of planted listening devices (spying on them)?:behindbar

 

[shannon718]

Question I watched NG starting to sound more like a tabloid, never heard exact date of shovel being borrowed. Last I knew it was in mid Jun. is there now an exact dte?

Furhman has a "source" and said the 18th...thats where all this theorizing is coming from. :blowkiss:

 

[SuziQ]

How did the neighbor suddenly remember the date was the 18th ?

Well I don't think he suddenly remembered today. I'm pretty sure LE has had this info from the beginning. I was involved in a long drawn out courtcase that I had to give depos for. What they try to do is to get witnesses to explain why they remembered that day. Did you go to a wedding? Was it your kids birthday? That type of thing.

 

[not_my_kids]

Thanks for looking that up. That timeframe actually makes sense if she was temporarily stashed somewhere, the backyard or the trunk.

I agree. I don't think that she would have buried her and then just dug her up the same day. She owuld have had the spot where she was going to put her picked before she dug her up.
If she had stashed her in the trunk, it only would have taken 1 1/2 days for the body to putrefy, if she was buried closer to 4. So, still not sure what to think.

 

[gigi2009]

According to Tony he picked her up from the Amsco parking lot on the 27th. I don't know of an official confirmation of that yet.

And towed on the 30th,

 

[txelaine1]

Why have we not heard anything else from Tony lately?

Not since Geraldo's brother was following him into the bathroom.

 

[shannon718]

CHECK

Your amazing at this stuff. Did you watch Furhman tonight? If you watch it I bet you'll have an even better theory.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

when LE or CSI went into the house today to get evidence that they could of planted listening devices (spying on them)?:behindbar

they don't need those nowadays. They can listen from around the block now - without anything in the house.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Maybe they had to when push came to shove. Before 'the middle of June' worked. Now, LE needs something more concrete, IMO.

Maybe the police with held the info. which could give two days in the ground or a day and half. Good point about the pet dogs, possibly digging.

 

[not_my_kids]

If Caylee had an accident and Casey's calls to mom and dad were going unanswered, why didn't she send a quick text message to each of them?

Might have been worried that someone else would see the text message. That worry isn't there if she can get them to pick up the phone.

 

[shannon718]

I agree. I don't think that she would have buried her and then just dug her up the same day. She owuld have had the spot where she was going to put her picked before she dug her up.
If she had stashed her in the trunk, it only would have taken 1 1/2 days for the body to putrefy, if she was buried closer to 4. So, still not sure what to think.

I don't think she buried her. I think she hid her. However, there was dirt in the trunk (attempt at burying her maybe) I don't think she drove around with her for days. She hid her and went back and got her. Maybe she covered her a bit with dirt to obscure her.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

they don't need those nowadays. They can listen from around the block now - without anything in the house.

Wish we all had them then

 

[blondietx]

they don't need those nowadays. They can listen from around the block now - without anything in the house.

wow...really? how is that? interesting!

 

[Leila]

Where did the Fuhrman source get it? Wouldn't it have had to originate with Cindy and George? Who else was in the backyard on the 16th that could have come up with that story?

I'm not buying it until I find out it came from an independent source with no dog in this race.

I can't give any proof, but Mark Fuhrman simply referred to the person as "my source." It was obvious that MF had a list of calls from Casey's cell phone to the person's she called. He could only have gotten that list from someone in LE, or from someone who doesn't want to be identified close to the situation (Lee?). As to the date the shovel was borrowed, it's possible that MF asked the neighbor himself, or someone in LE allowed that info to be leaked. In regards to the gate being open and pool ladder up, we don't know the source of this info either, but I doubt it came from Cindy or George.

 

[shannon718]

not since geraldo's brother was following him into the bathroom.

roflmao

 

[SouthernMom]

really good point. Maybe! We need to find the date that the car was abandoned. and the dates that she drove Amy's car. When did that smell get to bad and did she try to clean it up? Remember the cleaning fluids/detergent thing.

I read in another thread that the car was abandoned at the Amscot on the 27th . Her bf Tony was called to pick her up. Casey's story was the car broke down and she had called her dad to retrieve it and get it repaired. The car was towed on the 30th. She drove Amy's car in July while Amy was in PR (I don't recall those dates). The parents got a registered letter notice on Saturday July 12. Picked up the letter late on Monday, July 14. And retrieved the car from impound on Tuesday July 15. This is the day when the ____ hit the fan.

 

[ShinaLite]

I just can't imagine Casey placing a deceased Caylee in the house or burying her in the yard because of the two family dogs. Surely that would be very risky. She must have placed Caylee in the trunk and left pretty quickly or at least before Cindy was due home. I wonder if the next door neighbor remembered if Casey borrowed the shovel and then left the home quickly.

it really does seem risky but at the same time it would explain the dog hits in the backyard

 

[LI_Mom]

UUUGGGHHHH - server busy

But gave me time to think. We are all going on what the GP's have said. We have no confirmation that George was actually working.

Here's a thought:

16th - Casey and Caylee are sleeping. Cindy gets up - goes to work - early prob 7-8ish.

George gets up - having coffee - whatever - not paying attention.

Caylee gets up (this could even happen BEFORE george is awake as well) - wanders into the pool - drowns.

George finds her - already gone. Decides to pin this on Casey. So - he goes into Casey's room - wakes her up asking where is Caylee - they BOTH go out to the pool and find her.

Cover up starts. Casey thinks its a cover up - but George is plotting to pin this all on her.

Anyone?

Not me.

I can't see George doing that instead of calling 911 immediately..... although imagining a life without Casey HAS TO BE pretty enticing. lol

And no way would Casey sit in jail missing all those parties to protect her father OR mother.

I still say it's ALL on Casey & her parents just refuse to accept the possibility that Casey would LIE about the death of her own daughter.

They could understand the lies about little things... the stealing.... the wasted life.... they cannot wrap their heads around the fact that she's a monster.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I just don't think it happened at the house. She left with Caylee at approx 1. According to GP - he left at 2 - 2:30 and then the calls start at 3. She went somewhere else.

Today's CSI could also have been to rule things out - they do that as well. If that stain in the trunk was blood - there has to be a blood trail. It just didn't get in the trunk and that's it. Wonder if they have checked out tony's or ricardo's (she had stayed there as well). I don't think media has any of those places watched as closely as they do GP's house.

Plus if she went somewhere else with Caylee - prob to party - that could be the "source" or the other person we so crypticly heard elluded to on here earlier today.

 

[ShinaLite]

Well I don't think he suddenly remembered today. I'm pretty sure LE has had this info from the beginning. I was involved in a long drawn out courtcase that I had to give depos for. What they try to do is to get witnesses to explain why they remembered that day. Did you go to a wedding? Was it your kids birthday? That type of thing.

ita SuziQ...I think LE has had that info for a while..