Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #73

[zadari]

Isnt that Vince, the Shamwow guy?

nah i dont think so he is much younger looking

 

[ShouldBWorking]

Then add in that Cindy washes the clothes Casey was wearing too

I feel like I defend these folks a lot saw an interview with her today she said that she washed the pants around 3ish and the 911 call wasn't until much later said she offered the pants that night told LE she had washed them they didn't want them that night

 

[GameTheory]

I just don't think she ever had the blackjack. I'm sure LE has been able to determine whether she purchased one or not. She said she only had it for a week and a half.

That is very possible as well. Why on earth will she tell police she had one and lost it while there were so much pressing issues...and nobody knew or asked her about that second phone.... who knows with this girl?

But I bet now that the phone accounts of hers are open and there are no phonecalls from or to any nanny as she claimed, she will say she was contacting her with the other phone and she did use another sim card with that phone. And of course when the police will ask her to give them the number of that other sim card she will forget what it was. She is not going to admit she lied about the phonecall she received from the nanny and speaking with Caylee. She will make another story to explain it and I bet you that other second ''lost'' phone will come right into her new explanation.

:bang::bang:

 

[shannon718]

You are correct in what your answering. And I
Lee also finds this strange and asks her what you said above...if you lost that phone how do you have the sim card? Plus it is more common for people to have 2 sim cards/2 phone numbers but one cell phone. If she was using two different sim cards it will be very difficult to track her movements down or whom she called with that phone.

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I don't feel that it would be that difficult because lets just say that there was another simm card:

That card was purchased by someone and belongs to that number. In my experience when you buy a simm card you have to produce identification usually social security # and picture ID to do so. You cannot do it anonomously . So if casey bought the simm card then it will be traced back to her. If she bought it and used someone elses identification and information (which is not beyond her) LE will be able to investigate that also and figure out who it belongs too (stolen identitity, friend whatever)

even if she stole if from somebody, I do believe they will figure that out also. Most likely one of the easiest investigative things for them to do.
IMHO

 

[tx_Dot]

Would love to know if she went to a map site to see how to get there.

I think phone calls, tower pings & computer history are going to pinpoint much of Casey's movements that month.......

LOL if she's like many teens she thinks the 'delete' button really works.

 

[Elley Mae]

I have gotten back and am responding to some comments that I made in reference to the 16th and the 24th. I did not mean to imply that George did not say that he was watching TV on the 16th before he went to work I'm sure he was,habit probably. What I was trying to say was that when Casey showed up on the 24th (with the gas can conversation) that he was probably watching tv,and I don't think that casey knew that he was home. She got caught,she probably thought that he had went to work. And I also wonder if the gas cans were in the trunk,or did he buy news.

 

[shannon718]

I just don't think she ever had the blackjack. I'm sure LE has been able to determine whether she purchased one or not. She said she only had it for a week and a half.

Quite possible....she can just be spinning that to throw them off knowing that the would figure out that her "Zanny" calls never happened. That is possible too. But if she did say buy one or "borrow" one they will find out.

 

[shannon718]

Casey has been arrested, for other crimes. She's in jail and not getting out. There is no rush to hastily charge her for more crimes at the moment. It's better to have all it i's dotted and t's crossed than to rush into a murder charge. Which BTW, a good DA would not allow. And I would bet that if there is a possibility that this is a death penalty case, it will go before a grand jury before and indictment is handed down. That's standard operating procedure these days. A grand jury can take 6 months or longer. There are cases that I know of where the grand jury has been seated for years.

DNA tests are not a quick thing. I seriously don't understand where people get that idea. You have prelim results, then more testing on those results, than more testing on those. Mark F's comment the other day about testing in this case was very enlightening. IIRC, He said if the prelims in this case came back with nothing, then the state wouldn't bother doing the more in-depth expensive tests that is now being conducted.

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[GameTheory]

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I don't feel that it would be that difficult because lets just say that there was another simm card:

That card was purchased by someone and belongs to that number. In my experience when you buy a simm card you have to produce identification usually social security # and picture ID to do so. You cannot do it anonomously . So if casey bought the simm card then it will be traced back to her. If she bought it and used someone elses identification and information (which is not beyond her) LE will be able to investigate that also and figure out who it belongs too (stolen identitity, friend whatever)

even if she stole if from somebody, I do believe they will figure that out also. Most likely one of the easiest investigative things for them to do.
IMHO

Thank you for the info. Forgive my ignorance but being European I wouldn't know. Where I live you can buy pre-paid sim cards without any identification. And I know for a fact you can do the same in England since I was a student there and I bought one. I was assuming the same was in the US.

In the case she used a fake identification to buy a second sim card it will be very difficult to find WHAT NUMBER THAT WAS because Casey only would know the number. Unless she used it to contact her friends. I am sure right now police are looking into that as well. Asking all friends and acquaintances in what numbers they were contacting Casey.

 

[CheckDaFacts]

Is there a web site in Orlando where apt searches can look for info on apts in the area?

There are sites in my area on which people blog and ask questions about housing and etc.. Very often out of towners pose questions and the locals tell them about rentals and locations to look for in our town.

I am just thinking that if Casey who was looking at housing got on a site like that, ZG might have mentioned on that site where she had been looking? OK. Not likely, but Casey had a lot of time on internet and might have run across something about ZG and her search for apartments.

A ZG said her office was burglarized discovered Jun 10th, don't know what LE has on those prints, computer taken, her name on the door. Don't know if this ties in for the name of the nanny.

 

[Patty G]

Do we have the strike out a word feature here? I want to update something and strike the word out and put in the new word.

 

[IrishSweetOne]

I feel like I defend these folks a lot saw an interview with her today she said that she washed the pants around 3ish and the 911 call wasn't until much later said she offered the pants that night told LE she had washed them they didn't want them that night

I know what she said but look at the big picture .
The car gets towed
Smells like a dead body
Can't find their graddaughter

and she's washing these clothes ???

It doesn't add up IMO

 

[shannon718]

Thank you for the info. Forgive my ignorance but being European I wouldn't know. Where I live you can buy pre-paid sim cards without any identification. In the case she used a fake identification to buy a second sim card it will be very difficult to find WHAT NUMBER THAT WAS because Casey only would know the number. Unless she used it to contact her friends. I am sure right now police are looking into that as well. Asking all friends and acquaintances in what numbers they were contacting Casey.

GAME: i don't think that it would be that difficult. If there is a second simm and thats a big IF, then that simm has GOT to belong to someone and they will be able to investigate that and tie it back to her somehow in some way. In the US you cannot buy a simm without proper indentification......stolen id or not. the phone number will be in SOMEONES name.

 

[ketel0ne]

I know what she said but look at the big picture .
The car gets towed
Smells like a dead body
Can't find their graddaughter

and she's washing these clothes ???

It doesn't add up IMO

If Tuesday July 15th was like any other day why were her and George even home around 3ish?

 

[ketel0ne]

GAME: i don't think that it would be that difficult. If there is a second simm and thats a big IF, then that simm has GOT to belong to someone and they will be able to investigate that and tie it back to her somehow in some way. In the US you cannot buy a simm without proper indentification......stolen id or not. the phone number will be in SOMEONES name.

But you can buy disposable phones and no contract phones.

 

[Shutterfly]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/08/investigators-h.html

"What we need to do is receive information from Casey that is nothing but the truth," Nieves said.

Yesterday, WFTV.com reported that prosecutors had offered Casey Anthony immunity, in exchange for information about her daughter; however State Attorney's Office spokesman Randy Means has since said that no such deal is in the works.

"We are not entertaining immunity for anyone involved with this case," Means told WESH.com.

Baez also said that the only DNA evidence that investigators have recovered was taken from the car that Casey Anthony was driving.

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What does THAT mean..who is "anyone"... besides Casey? Perhaps I'm reading too much into that statement but since clearly it becomes more apparent every day that no one SEEMS to be involved but Casey..then why say that? Why not simply say that they are not offering Casey immunity since it was in answer to whether or not "prosecutors had offered Casey Anthony immunity, in exchange for information about her daughter."

 

[Patty G]

I feel like I defend these folks a lot saw an interview with her today she said that she washed the pants around 3ish and the 911 call wasn't until much later said she offered the pants that night told LE she had washed them they didn't want them that night

Yup, that's what she said.

 

[Patty G]

But you can buy disposable phones and no contract phones.

I have a no contract cell phone, fill it up with minutes.

 

[kathyn2]

Yes, and I thought of another reason not to be releasing the results of the dna tests and holding out on even arrest. I am going against my own post! lol But anyway, a good reason not to release the results is that the defense attorney would then know the results ahead of time and rig up some defense. If LE keeps the results hidden for a while they have a longer time to investigate and get their case together and hopefully know what happened in this case.

Casey has been arrested, for other crimes. She's in jail and not getting out. There is no rush to hastily charge her for more crimes at the moment. It's better to have all it i's dotted and t's crossed than to rush into a murder charge. Which BTW, a good DA would not allow. And I would bet that if there is a possibility that this is a death penalty case, it will go before a grand jury before and indictment is handed down. That's standard operating procedure these days. A grand jury can take 6 months or longer. There are cases that I know of where the grand jury has been seated for years.

DNA tests are not a quick thing. I seriously don't understand where people get that idea. You have prelim results, then more testing on those results, than more testing on those. Mark F's comment the other day about testing in this case was very enlightening. IIRC, He said if the prelims in this case came back with nothing, then the state wouldn't bother doing the more in-depth expensive tests that is now being conducted.

 

[ShouldBWorking]

o/t

did anyone see this story refreshing to see a mom seeking justice for their child after Casey's crap