Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #75

[tiffertots]

how long does a corpse have to be in the trunk of a car in order to leave such an everlasting distinguishing odor??

 

[McSev]

how long does a corpse have to be in the trunk of a car in order to leave such an everlasting distinguishing odor??

Anywhere from 8 hours on depending on heat etc. Death creates chemical changes in the body that result in gases (particularly the breakdown of lactic acid in muscles), and those same gases are the ones that bottleflies and other insects can smell for up to 10 miles in one species of fly alone.

 

[Chezhire]

Mellich questioned family members yesterday concerning Anthony's treatment of Caylee after a tip from a hairdresser corroborated suspicions of abuse he had after seeing a picture of Caylee with a mark under her eye. Each family member said he or she had never witnessed any abuse.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=5426484&page=2

Hope this helps...

Got it. LIke it's been mentioned though, if it's not in an official, affidavit or other attested to pleading, then LE can lie to get witnesses to tell them the truth, if there is such a truth, who will then believe they are only corroborating what LE already "knew..." Do you know if this was discussed during the bond hearing itself? I've read all of the affidavits posted and it's not in any of them that I recall...

 

[not_my_kids]

how long does a corpse have to be in the trunk of a car in order to leave such an everlasting distinguishing odor??

18-72 hours according to the things I looked up the other day. The link is in the past threads.

 

[yosande]

Hey,
I'm a newbie, and this is jmo. I think Casey has Caylee hidden with someone and knows where she is and who she is with, and she isn't going to tell anyone, because this is a great big power trip to hurt her mom. She would rather sit in jail then give her mom the satisfaction of having Caylee back. I get this opinion from the first 911 call when Cindy and Casey were talking, not knowing they were being heard. I also think Tony is involved. again, jmo.

 

[Dorvillian]

how long does a corpse have to be in the trunk of a car in order to leave such an everlasting distinguishing odor??

Hard to say, but George drove that car home. The impound people were around the car, the odor may have been slight and contained in the trunk.

I think the bag of trash in the trunk was an excuse for the smell, and leaving the car with the purse (and keys??) inside was an effort to have it stolen.

 

[SillyNilly]

I think that's what's gotten so many ppl to the core - she's a little, 3 year old child who didn't do anything but live and who couldn't make her own choices...and who likely was in the wrong plae at the wrong time b/c of something her mama did or didn't do...it makes my chest heavy typing this b/c as much as I don't want it to be true, I think it's more probable than not that she is deceased. I still pray for her, though.

Chez, I'm praying for her too! I wished my gut said she was alive out there somewhere, but, it simply doesn't unfortunately. And, that is exactly why I am so PISSED at her mother. She knows damn well where that precious little one is and won't tell.

 

[txsvicki]

Hey,
I'm a newbie, and this is jmo. I think Casey has Caylee hidden with someone and knows where she is and who she is with, and she isn't going to tell anyone, because this is a great big power trip to hurt her mom. She would rather sit in jail then give her mom the satisfaction of having Caylee back. I get this opinion from the first 911 call when Cindy and Casey were talking, not knowing they were being heard. I also think Tony is involved. again, jmo.

Casey's taken everything from her Mom. Her granddaughter, her money, ruined her car, ruined her good name, and probably eventually her health, home, and retirement income.

 

[SillyNilly]

Hey,
I'm a newbie, and this is jmo. I think Casey has Caylee hidden with someone and knows where she is and who she is with, and she isn't going to tell anyone, because this is a great big power trip to hurt her mom. She would rather sit in jail then give her mom the satisfaction of having Caylee back. I get this opinion from the first 911 call when Cindy and Casey were talking, not knowing they were being heard. I also think Tony is involved. again, jmo.

Just my opinion, but, no one in their right mind would be holding that child knowing EVERYONE is looking for her. And, to do this, would mean jail time. I don't think Casey has ANY friends on this planet willing to do that for her.

 

[Chezhire]

Hey NOW. That something I haven't seen asked. That's pretty interesting, unless we can figure out some common sense reason he needed them to do it "his way."

This has been discussed a lot in the past week...most WS believe it's because he already suspected Casey and wanted an indirect reason to look in the trunk at that moment/time, rather than confronting her directly, in case she was not involved...
search for the threads...

 

[not_my_kids]

Hey,
I'm a newbie, and this is jmo. I think Casey has Caylee hidden with someone and knows where she is and who she is with, and she isn't going to tell anyone, because this is a great big power trip to hurt her mom. She would rather sit in jail then give her mom the satisfaction of having Caylee back. I get this opinion from the first 911 call when Cindy and Casey were talking, not knowing they were being heard. I also think Tony is involved. again, jmo.

I'd like to believe that, but children get expensive and whoever has her would not be able to file for child support or even get welfare for her. No insurance, not be able to send her to school. They would be risking going to jail if they are caught with her and they would be watching the news reports and seeing that the whole nation and her grandparents are going nuts hunting for her. I don't think Casey has any friends that like her THAT much.

 

[Dorvillian]

Has any one brought up the idea that the body was placed in a dumpster? It's hard to believe that Casey would put a lot of effort into anything. That would be an easy way to dispose of a body and doing it at the Sawgrass Apartments would leave a trail to the fake nanny.

 

[tiffertots]

so if a body was removed after say 10 hours or so.. would the odor be as strong as it would if it had been there longer...

If little caylee had been placed in the trunk post mortum...how long would it take for the odor to completly consume and impermiate the interior of the vehicle??

"I'm not the best speller in the world so forgive me if I make mistakes...this thing should have a spell-check" ;-)

 

[McSev]

18-72 hours according to the things I looked up the other day. The link is in the past threads.

I happened to be watching a special on MSNBC about the case of mistaken identity between 2 girls who were in a car crash with several other students (all but in the acc 1 died) in Indiana. The girls were mis-identified at the scene - 1 was alive and 1 was was deceased, and the first responders mixed them up. Both families got the purses of their daughters, and even though there was a mix up of identifying them physically, their purses were returned to their "right" family. Last night, one family mentioned they knew what death smelled like when they got their daughter's purse.

 

[Chezhire]

:clap:

Just my opinion, but, no one in their right mind would be holding that child knowing EVERYONE is looking for her. And, to do this, would mean jail time. I don't think Casey has ANY friends on this planet willing to do that for her.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[Leila]

ok - help me out here - i've read almost every thread here on Caylee since the case began...but i haven't had time to listen in to the TV,too... LOL...when was the hairdresser quoted re: these bruises and what thread was it contained in? somewhere between 65-73??? <sighs> I have such a heavy heart about this missing child..

Early in the case one of the investigators stated that they received a tip from a hairdresser that said they saw Caylee and that at the time Caylee had bruises and a black mark under one eye. The investigator said that he later received a cell phone photo of Caylee with a mark under her eye. But, no date was given for when the hairdresser saw Caylee or when the cell phone photo was taken.

 

[Chezhire]

Has any one brought up the idea that the body was placed in a dumpster? It's hard to believe that Casey would put a lot of effort into anything. That would be an easy way to dispose of a body and doing it at the Sawgrass Apartments would leave a trail to the fake nanny.

also discussed ad naseum in the past 74 threads...too many dumpsters to search w/o even a pinpoint place to start, and with 30+ days earlier... searcht he threads and you'll see the comments of the WS posters.

 

[SillyNilly]

I happened to be watching a special on MSNBC about the case of mistaken identity between 2 girls who were in a car crash with several other students (all but in the acc 1 died) in Indiana. The girls were mis-identified at the scene - 1 was alive and 1 was was deceased, and the first responders mixed them up. Both families got the purses of their daughters, and even though there was a mix up of identifying them physically, their purses were returned to their "right" family. Last night, one family mentioned they knew what death smelled like when they got their daughter's purse.

What a rude and SAD awakening!

 

[McSev]

This has been discussed a lot in the past week...most WS believe it's because he already suspected Casey and wanted an indirect reason to look in the trunk at that moment/time, rather than confronting her directly, in case she was not involved...
search for the threads...

IIRC, he asked for them and got in the trunk on June 24th. You're saying he suspected her of having "done" something with Casey then before he next saw the car on July 15th?

 

[not_my_kids]

I happened to be watching a special on MSNBC about the case of mistaken identity between 2 girls who were in a car crash with several other students (all but in the acc 1 died) in Indiana. The girls were mis-identified at the scene - 1 was alive and 1 was was deceased, and the first responders mixed them up. Both families got the purses of their daughters, and even though there was a mix up of identifying them physically, their purses were returned to their "right" family. Last night, one family mentioned they knew what death smelled like when they got their daughter's purse.

Yes, but there can be a difference between "death" and decomp. The smell of brain matter is very distinctive and terrible, (you don't want to know how I know that) but nothing like decomp. The same thing with the smell of blood. Unless they specificallly said that they know what decompisition smelled like there could be a difference.