Caylee Anthony General Discussion Thread #76

[aprilshowers]

The reason behind these actions are:

There is something deep within us, that won't allow us to believe we are worthy of love or that we are 'anything' at all, since most of our life, we were the 'adult' for our parent or parents.

When you need to be there for THEM, to make THEM happy, to make everything ok for THEM. Us? Well ... I had to put myself last, if I disagreed with my mom, or did or said, anything to hurt her or let her down ... it was as if somebody stabbed me in the heart .. I just COULDN'T.

I was the 'chosen child' and she told everybody that I was SUCH a good daughter, that I was ALWAYS there for her, and that all her other daughters (I have 3 sisters) weren't there for her, and have hurt her .. yet "I" was the loyal one and always there to defend her, and stand by her.

As an adult, it was very very hard to take care of myself emotionally, to put myself first. I had many devastating relationships, that left me feeling even MORE alone and unworthy.

Yes, it's true .. a Borderline can be very hard to love. That's because we require so MUCH love and attention. And that's because we're SO empty.

We don't trust ... if we do, it's one or two people at most, and even have a hard time trusting them.

It's sad actually ... it truly is! I can tell you from my OWN heart, even though it's so very hard to understand us and to keep loving us, we're more broken than you can understand ... in that I mean, broken hearted, our spirit is broken, and we feel so very empty.

 

[fixingtoburst]

I think it an important part of her story that the real ZG never be found, what if this "Hispanic woman" that she has seen at the Sawgrass Apartments has a solid alibi?

Casey would need to keep the waters muddy to keep her story going. But she must have thought that someone by that name lived there - not that she was just a one time visitor - I think that's what really tripped her up.

Can you imagine the hell that woman has been through? I mean to be associated with a missing child only because you went to look at an apartment.

I thought that these apartment complexes were supposed to be pretty high end. Did they not have any security cameras? Could they not have shown footage of Casey on the property?

 

[housemouse]

What if nothing happened to Caylee until late the 17th or early the 18th?

Would anyone care to re-sleuth, but delay the possible time for a day or so? The reason I ask is because of the very short time period between George's leaving for work and the first flurry of phone calls on the 16th. This doesn't seem to be enough time to me. And, I somehow have a hard time thinking that Casey would have done something in the daylight hours. No idea why I feel that way, other than I would think she might want the cover of darkness, and yes, I do think it might have been pre-meditated.

 

[RR0004]

The question he was answering was when did you see her last. They may have also talked to him about Casey's mood and demeanor that morning, but I don't interpret that to mean Casey and Caylee popped out of the room and left.

I also believe this answer was "orchestrated". To me it feels "unnatural".

 

[SuziQ]

Casey knew the exact spelling of her full name, her age, and what kind of car she drove, Casey was at the Sawgrass Apartments on the 17th.

I'm still not seeing where it's been stated that the real ZG drove a Ford Focus. Casey said she did, but does ZG really own a Ford Focus.

 

[Dorvillian]

Casey, probably described her as hispanic and went with they stereotypical description. She thought she was really clever.

Her arrogance has certainly been a detriment to her.

 

[mollymalone]

If as has been speculated there was a huge fight perhaps Casey was very angry herself and took that anger out on Caylee. Whatever happened, she tried to reach her parents for them to handle it, to bail her out of whatever she did but because they were busy (or ignoring her calls) she's now taking it out on them, as in "it's your fault something happened to Caylee because you made me angry, it's your fault I'm in jail, and it's your fault that I couldn't reach you to have you fix it."

 

[RR0004]

Casey, probably described her as hispanic and went with they stereotypical description. She thought she was really clever.

IIRC that's exactly what she did.

 

[lostnfound85]

I've gotten the impression that's not a great idea. She (the real one) is actually a victim here. Check with a mod.

It would just be the same discussions as on here, but in its own thread.

 

[RR0004]

I'm still not seeing where it's been stated that the real ZG drove a Ford Focus. Casey said she did, but does ZG really own a Ford Focus.

We don't know...LE hasn't revealed that information to the best of my knowledge. It would be very interesting to see if she did.

 

[fixingtoburst]

Her arrogance has certainly been a detriment to her.

Is she ignorant or is she racist?

 

[kc11478]

I posted this a few pages back with no response. Anyone have an idea of how these people are related to this case?

I was reading the jail visitors log and saw the names "William Waters" and "Stefany Kostakis". What is their connection to Casey???

 

[aprilshowers]

Aprilshowers,

OMG! That's...wow, just wow.

I think I may have dated you in the late eighties.

Uh Oh!

LOL!

 

[panthera]

I think it an important part of her story that the real ZG never be found, what if this "Hispanic woman" that she has seen at the Sawgrass Apartments has a solid alibi?

Casey would need to keep the waters muddy to keep her story going. But she must have thought that someone by that name lived there - not that she was just a one time visitor - I think that's what really tripped her up.

I agree and think that LE could show Casey a photo of every ZFG they could possibly find and she'd say none of them was the babysitter. Your second point is why I really believe now that Caylee is either buried on or near the Sawgrass property or was disposed of from there (dumpster).

 

[ShouldBWorking]

I think we all assume that EVERYONE knows about this case and would recognize Caylee but that isn't true, not one person at my work had an idea what I was talking about in the break room (30 people in the room) today in sunday School (20 people) 1 other person knew who I was talking about, I have blogged about this and had 10 different friends email me and tell me they didn't know about this case, to be that is unreal but not the whole world would recognize Caylee (believe me I don't think she's alive)

 

[panthera]

I posted this a few pages back with no response. Anyone have an idea of how these people are related to this case?

I'm sorry I did see your post but I have no idea who they are. You said they were on a visitor's log?

 

[s_finch]

Cindi may THINK she knows where he daughter was at all times but it isn't true. She texted her and called her all day long but Casey is a big liar. I bet 90% of what she ever told her mom was a big lie. I have no idea why her family ever believes her. I don't think Casey knows what truth is.

I have a daughter who has acted in SOME of the same ways as Casey. She has tried to pass lies off as truth since her early years. Has gone through gobs of our money (some of it dishonestly). Has lied about her friends, where she was, etc.... I would want to believe her and would be caught up in believing her but her dad (my husband) thankfully saw through her. She got away with a lot, lied a lot, partied too heavily and having fun was her main goal in life. If anything got in her way she would erupt! She was completely irresponsible even at 18,19,20.....now finally at 21 she has started to come around somewhat. HOWEVER, if I had been raising her alone she probably would have so completely worn me out with her lies and her pleading of "Don't you believe me?"...."I can't believe you think I would lie to you"..."I can't believe you even think I would DO THAT!" the screaming, yelling, tantrum throwing when her lies where challenged...yes, if I had been raising her alone she would be a complete monster by now. So I can see that if George and Cindy didn't hold Casey somewhat responsible and if she got the upper hand on them early on in her life then all they know is to believe her lies because they've done it for so long. When you're a parent in this situation, you're gut/heart tells you one thing but you so want to believe your child and are so taken aback at their outrageous, hysterical, raging insistance that they are telling the truth that you end up going along with it all and after it while it become almost easy to "go along" with whatever they say and after a while it's just the way the family functions. And even if you know there's some lying going on, you tell yourself that it'll work out alright, it won't ever get THAT bad, they won't really get into a bad situation, they'll come around sooner or later, they're just sowing their wild oats, and then reality hits.......... I think reality has his the Anthony family and they aren't use to reality, don't know how to handle it and are adrift at sea without a hope in heck.

 

[Girlrilla]

Another thing, in Lee's most recent interview before Casey refused to see him, the reporters asked him about the claim that Casey talked to Caylee on the phone on the 15th, but we've been told this did not occur. His reply was that there were several private/blocked numbers on that day. I wonder if there is any truth to this and if so why would it be released as another of Casey's lies if the police couldn't be positive the call didn't occur. Is Lee lying?

 

[mollymalone]

In choosing a Hispanic name for the babysitter Casey may have been taking a leaf out of Susan Smith's book ie.. she blamed it on a black man carjacking her car and her children. In other words, I'll blame it on someone Hispanic and I'll be believed.

 

[cluesplease]

I agree and think that LE could show Casey a photo of every ZFG they could possibly find and she'd say none of them was the babysitter. Your second point is why I really believe now that Caylee is either buried on or near the Sawgrass property or was disposed of from there (dumpster).

:clap: I agree!!!!!!