Cindy is Unbelievable

[AlwaysShocked]

I think both George and Cindy are extremely loose cannons - each in their own way. I agree, they will be unable to contain themselves for very long. Perhaps for a day or two, but when the testimony goes against "their girl" they won't hold themselves in check for very long.

If he has allowed them in and they act up, I think Judge Perry will do the same thing he did when the guy stood up in court and started babbling about the Japanese tsunami. He'll forcefully say "OUT!" and that will be that.

I honestly think it would be much better for all that they not be allowed in.

 

[Sparky]

Bump!

I had the opportunity to have lunch today some some other WS posters. I thoroughly enjoyed myself, hope they did too. One of the things we wound up discussing was "Are Cindy and George going to make some sort of scene during the trial - if they are allowed in the courtroom while it is going on?" I found myself in the minority because I do not think they would do anything to disrupt the trial. Maybe disrupt is not the correct word, but act out in some way. So now I am wondering what everyone else thinks. Will they act out in some fashion in front of the jury? If they do, how will HHJP handle it?

Yes, I do believe one or maybe both will act out. To what extent, I don't know. The trial will be getting underway soon and after what we've seen in the last few hearings, they (the A's) are right and the state is wrong. HJP will have them removed just like he did the guy a few weeks ago. He won't stand for it IMO.

 

[Unsolved]

No garbage in the trunk. Bet there were no maggots either...halfway out to sea by the time CA called 911. Funny how they talked about the maggots popping in the bag but the trunk was clean. Inside the car had been cleaned also. jmo

Yeah, maggots full of Caylee's DNA, wish they had still been there to test...

CA still had them on the brain when she said about Tim M. before the search "I want him to do a search around here to satisfy all of you leaches, parasites and all of you maggots," Cindy Anthony said Thursday evening.

JMO but I think no chance they will be able to stay composed at the trial.

 

[CuriousTwo]

If I were in the unfortunate position of being the family member of a victim, I wouldn't be able to sit in court and hear every detail of how my family member was murdered. I just couldn't sit though that and not break down. It would haunt me forever. I recall Laci's mother stating that she couldn't attend the trial on the days that the autopsy photos were displayed for the jury.

That being said, I think the A's will attend every single day that they're allowed to - they all have a way of disassociating (IMHO) except for GA's sporadic displays of emotion. His emotions seem to fluctuate from extreme to extreme - extremely agitated to extremely emotional. Should be very interesting when the trial begins.

 

[Teresa]

I believe they would. Outbursts, facial distractions, unappropiate statements, etc. should not be allowed. The only way to nip this in the bud is to not allow them in the courtroom. A sideroom out of eyesight of the court and jury would be okay. I want them to hear what Casey did.

Teresa

 

[GennyMac]

I've spent this entire day (numb tail now) reading interviews, depos, TV appearances, phone messages, articles, and general rants from Cindy. I've gone from sympathy for a grandmother whose heart was ripped out to total disgust for someone who was more interested in themselves than that lovely granddaughter.

But I think I have finally settled my mind about Cindy - while the sympathy was gone very early on in the investigation, the disgust has also been replaced by sadness for a mother who did not do the right thing many many years ago, and her granddaughter paid the price for her inaction.

Between the "What did you do" to ICA to the "Stay away from her, she's a sociopath" to one of ICA's fellas - I realized just how horrific it must be to live with the guilt for her choices down through the years.

Like a cloud lifting, my disgust evaporated and the realization that she is likely so close to the edge of sanity she cannot any longer help herself. The acting out, the denial of death, the denial of any wrongdoing by a daughter who was 'doing really wrong' for so many years and now the upcoming display of all that was wrong being played out in public, where she can no longer hide behind excuses or aversions, may well send her over the edge. George too. I cannot imagine just how unbearable that guilt must be when sleeping with it every night ...........in the dark............all alone.

This may well be the reason for her 'religious' efforts - she must be seeking some level of peace or forgiveness for all those years of not acting responsibly as a mother. That is just so sad.

.............insert very long sigh
.............insert sip of Jack/Dt Coke

 

[ZsaZsa]

I've spent this entire day (numb tail now) reading interviews, depos, TV appearances, phone messages, articles, and general rants from Cindy. I've gone from sympathy for a grandmother whose heart was ripped out to total disgust for someone who was more interested in themselves than that lovely granddaughter.

But I think I have finally settled my mind about Cindy - while the sympathy was gone very early on in the investigation, the disgust has also been replaced by sadness for a mother who did not do the right thing many many years ago, and her granddaughter paid the price for her inaction.

Between the "What did you do" to ICA to the "Stay away from her, she's a sociopath" to one of ICA's fellas - I realized just how horrific it must be to live with the guilt for her choices down through the years.

Like a cloud lifting, my disgust evaporated and the realization that she is likely so close to the edge of sanity she cannot any longer help herself. The acting out, the denial of death, the denial of any wrongdoing by a daughter who was 'doing really wrong' for so many years and now the upcoming display of all that was wrong being played out in public, where she can no longer hide behind excuses or aversions, may well send her over the edge. George too. I cannot imagine just how unbearable that guilt must be when sleeping with it every night ...........in the dark............all alone.

This may well be the reason for her 'religious' efforts - she must be seeking some level of peace or forgiveness for all those years of not acting responsibly as a mother. That is just so sad.

.............insert very long sigh
.............insert sip of Jack/Dt Coke

I see it a bit differently, the 'religious efforts' ie the public baptism didn't seem to do much for her as she was out lying to LE and the public straight after. Nothing changed. To CA that baptism was just another way of improving her image and that of her 'perfect family'. Fake.
We just witnessed her lying yet again, on the stand, telling us about how her memory has now improved, so she recalls using Febreze all over the car trunk.
How many grandparents of murdered children sell their photos and memorabilia to Media? How many grandparents ask for Immunity before speaking to LE? This family is devoid of any shame or ethics. In fact if they think they can bamboozle someone they gloat over it.. they are busy rehearsing for the trial now, so they can do just that.
She doesn't deserve your compassion. She spits on Caylee's grave with every lie.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Yeah, maggots full of Caylee's DNA, wish they had still been there to test...

CA still had them on the brain when she said about Tim M. before the search "I want him to do a search around here to satisfy all of you leaches, parasites and all of you maggots," Cindy Anthony said Thursday evening.

JMO but I think no chance they will be able to stay composed at the trial.

They complained about all the protestors outside their house, but they could not wait to go out and get confrontational with them. They could have just stayed inside and let them get tired of waiting,but GA has to go out in front of the cameras, shove a few people around, CA has to come out and start arguing with everyone. They loved it.

 

[GennyMac]

And this is the reason I love WS - we all have our own opinions and the freedom to express them !

Thank you Zsa Zsa for your very valid points to ponder.
(just not tonite !)

 

[Baxter]

I see it a bit differently, the 'religious efforts' ie the public baptism didn't seem to do much for her as she was out lying to LE and the public straight after. Nothing changed. To CA that baptism was just another way of improving her image and that of her 'perfect family'. Fake.
We just witnessed her lying yet again, on the stand, telling us about how her memory has now improved, so she recalls using Febreze all over the car trunk.
How many grandparents of murdered children sell their photos and memorabilia to Media? How many grandparents ask for Immunity before speaking to LE? This family is devoid of any shame or ethics. In fact if they think they can bamboozle someone they gloat over it.. they are busy rehearsing for the trial now, so they can do just that.
She doesn't deserve your compassion. She spits on Caylee's grave with every lie.

:maddening: ...and would not take a lie detector test.
This is the VICTIMS family. Why not?

 

[LolaMoon08]

I've spent this entire day (numb tail now) reading interviews, depos, TV appearances, phone messages, articles, and general rants from Cindy. I've gone from sympathy for a grandmother whose heart was ripped out to total disgust for someone who was more interested in themselves than that lovely granddaughter.

But I think I have finally settled my mind about Cindy - while the sympathy was gone very early on in the investigation, the disgust has also been replaced by sadness for a mother who did not do the right thing many many years ago, and her granddaughter paid the price for her inaction.

Between the "What did you do" to ICA to the "Stay away from her, she's a sociopath" to one of ICA's fellas - I realized just how horrific it must be to live with the guilt for her choices down through the years.

Like a cloud lifting, my disgust evaporated and the realization that she is likely so close to the edge of sanity she cannot any longer help herself. The acting out, the denial of death, the denial of any wrongdoing by a daughter who was 'doing really wrong' for so many years and now the upcoming display of all that was wrong being played out in public, where she can no longer hide behind excuses or aversions, may well send her over the edge. George too. I cannot imagine just how unbearable that guilt must be when sleeping with it every night ...........in the dark............all alone.

This may well be the reason for her 'religious' efforts - she must be seeking some level of peace or forgiveness for all those years of not acting responsibly as a mother. That is just so sad.

.............insert very long sigh
.............insert sip of Jack/Dt Coke

I also see it a little differently! No one should announce themselves... in the media of all places... being re-baptised... of all days... Caylee's birthday! You don't announce things like that! It is no ones business and it something between themselves and their God!

In the long run... George and Cindy owe NOTHING to me... the media... to the public! They owe everything to Caylee and their God! They need forgiveness from Caylee and their God! Not from me!

Unfortunately... they believe they need some kind of verification from us... from the media... of this unconditional love they talk about... when they do not even know the meaning of the word themselves!

They want something in return for being in the position that they are in... there is nothing in return.... they have lost! They get nothing back. Their daughter is a murderer... their granddaughter is a murder victim. They don't have to choose... but they did a long time ago! They chose the murderer over the victim!

We have no say in what happens to them eventually... they will have to answer to their choices... their lies... their corruption... eventually! I have always said that I really hope that one day they ask for forgiveness... because they are really going to need it... but not from us! It is something higher than us... more powerful than us! It doesn't matter what we believe in... because we all believe in something... and it is in all aspects... the same thing...

 

[ZsaZsa]

:maddening: ...and would not take a lie detector test.
This is the VICTIMS family. Why not?

ICA refused to give LE a swab for DNA testing.
The Jury should know that critical fact.

 

[doogiesgirl]

While I was looking for a video on youtube I came across this one. CA really is unbelievable. First her unfortunate wording that "she is a nurse, of decomposition". Now in this one she says that "George poured sweat and blood all over those rocks that day" :liar: (she's talking to GVS about the dog hits in the backyard, making up excuses for what they hit on) And of course GA is the fall guy once again....that d@mn GA poured sweat and blood in their back yard!! REALLY CA??? REALLY???!!??

Oh someone get this woman a brain. :nuts: And a conscience while you're at it! :shakehead:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asli_c189FM[/ame]
23 second mark

:cow:

 

[Baznme]

In short, IMO, Cindy has done more damage to her daughter's case than she even realizes. She needs to just "be quiet".

 

[Chiquita71]

I've spent this entire day (numb tail now) reading interviews, depos, TV appearances, phone messages, articles, and general rants from Cindy. I've gone from sympathy for a grandmother whose heart was ripped out to total disgust for someone who was more interested in themselves than that lovely granddaughter.

But I think I have finally settled my mind about Cindy - while the sympathy was gone very early on in the investigation, the disgust has also been replaced by sadness for a mother who did not do the right thing many many years ago, and her granddaughter paid the price for her inaction.

Between the "What did you do" to ICA to the "Stay away from her, she's a sociopath" to one of ICA's fellas - I realized just how horrific it must be to live with the guilt for her choices down through the years.

Like a cloud lifting, my disgust evaporated and the realization that she is likely so close to the edge of sanity she cannot any longer help herself. The acting out, the denial of death, the denial of any wrongdoing by a daughter who was 'doing really wrong' for so many years and now the upcoming display of all that was wrong being played out in public, where she can no longer hide behind excuses or aversions, may well send her over the edge. George too. I cannot imagine just how unbearable that guilt must be when sleeping with it every night ...........in the dark............all alone.

This may well be the reason for her 'religious' efforts - she must be seeking some level of peace or forgiveness for all those years of not acting responsibly as a mother. That is just so sad.

.............insert very long sigh
.............insert sip of Jack/Dt Coke

I see it a bit differently, the 'religious efforts' ie the public baptism didn't seem to do much for her as she was out lying to LE and the public straight after. Nothing changed. To CA that baptism was just another way of improving her image and that of her 'perfect family'. Fake.
We just witnessed her lying yet again, on the stand, telling us about how her memory has now improved, so she recalls using Febreze all over the car trunk.
How many grandparents of murdered children sell their photos and memorabilia to Media? How many grandparents ask for Immunity before speaking to LE? This family is devoid of any shame or ethics. In fact if they think they can bamboozle someone they gloat over it.. they are busy rehearsing for the trial now, so they can do just that.
She doesn't deserve your compassion. She spits on Caylee's grave with every lie.

They complained about all the protestors outside their house, but they could not wait to go out and get confrontational with them. They could have just stayed inside and let them get tired of waiting,but GA has to go out in front of the cameras, shove a few people around, CA has to come out and start arguing with everyone. They loved it.

RespectfullyQuoted GennyMac and ZsaZsa :wave:
BBM

I have felt how you feel GennyMac, I recently felt great sympathy for Cindy when I saw her on the stand during the hearings, something about her seemed 'done in'...

but then later she was in her seat, giving mean looks laughing chewing her gum...nah...I realize, she is no different and I go back to having zero sympathy for her.

I admit I wait for posts such as ZsaZsa's to give me the permission(because I really DO feel that way but feel badly about it) I guess I feel I must have to express what I really feel: she does not deserve my compassion. She will betray you...ask Casey. I don't want to be cold hearted, ever...but it feels wrong to have sympathy for Cindy. I feel like it is my abuse that causes me to give people like this "another chance" -the sympathy is not good sympathy...like I would feel for someone who is innocent or less guilty.

I'm not sure being a better person in this instance- and I have worried over my own motivations/reasons-is having sympathy for Cindy or any of the Anthonys. :dunno: If sympathy comes up in me, I will feel it for them...but all too soon as I have said, does that feeling for them become anger at them because of their own behavior(s).

I 100% believe in "I made mistake(s) and I am sorry and now I will do better" for anybody and everybody sometime in life but the gist is the person has to stop what they were doing before for it to be real. imo.

:welcome: :tyou:

 

[LambChop]

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RespectfullyQuoted GennyMac and ZsaZsa :wave:
BBM

I have felt how you feel GennyMac, I recently felt great sympathy for Cindy when I saw her on the stand during the hearings, something about her seemed 'done in'...

but then later she was in her seat, giving mean looks laughing chewing her gum...nah...I realize, she is no different and I go back to having zero sympathy for her.

I admit I wait for posts such as ZsaZsa's to give me the permission(because I really DO feel that way but feel badly about it) I guess I feel I must have to express what I really feel: she does not deserve my compassion. She will betray you...ask Casey. I don't want to be cold hearted, ever...but it feels wrong to have sympathy for Cindy. I feel like it is my abuse that causes me to give people like this "another chance" -the sympathy is not good sympathy...like I would feel for someone who is innocent or less guilty.

I'm not sure being a better person in this instance- and I have worried over my own motivations/reasons-is having sympathy for Cindy or any of the Anthonys. :dunno: If sympathy comes up in me, I will feel it for them...but all too soon as I have said, does that feeling for them become anger at them because of their own behavior(s).

I 100% believe in "I made mistake(s) and I am sorry and now I will do better" for anybody and everybody sometime in life but the gist is the person has to stop what they were doing before for it to be real. imo.

:welcome: :tyou:

I think what you are looking for in CA is to respect her inner code (we all have it) and to do the right thing regardless of where it leads. Support your child but do it the right way. CA just keeps digging holes. jmo

 

[pip]

I can't wait to see how the SA handles the A's during trial. It will be a fine art. Because people tend to have some sympathy for the grieving grand parents at times, the SA will have to be sympathetic in their approach, but also pull of the kids gloves to expose them for the liars they are. It will be a delicate balance as to not alienate jurors who may feel sympathetic. It will be fascinating to see and hear!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I can remember seeing Cindy on a show - or it could have been just hearing her (either GVS or NG) - and it was the first time I had heard her. And she was just awful. Saying she hadn't slept as an excuse for not wanting to answer questions about Casey. She became very argumentative.

Now that I think of it, it must have been Greta, because Nancy would have eaten her alive at that point.

In any case, my hinky meter went off right then about Cindy. But I just DID NOT want to think the grandmother of this poor missing child would be in any way hindering anything. I had a really hard time with that thought! For a long time.

Well, time went on and Cindy's behaviors went on. What sealed it for me was Cindy saying to the camera that the public should "get off thier azzes and get out there and look for Caylee". There were other things leading up to that, but, for me, that was the crossover point.

My only concern in all of this is that it took ME so long to believe that a grandmother of a missing child could be protecting the murderer. If it took me that long, how long will it take a juror who doesn't know much about the case to come to the same conclusion?

Or maybe it doesn't even matter if the jurors peg Cindy for what she is? The case is about Casey murdering her daughter, not about Cindy protecting Casey. Maybe Cindy just doesn't matter in that whole equation?

 

[JSR]

I haven't read any of the recent posts on this thread. But a thought popped in my head a minute or so ago ....

CA is trying desperately to get Casey to walk on these charges. In her heart of hearts she must know that Casey murdered Caylee. What on Earth does Cindy think Casey would be like if she were to go free as Cindy wants? Does she think Casey will be any different? Does she not realize that Casey would be 10 times more dangerous (to pretty much anyone who got in her way) if she was able to get away with murder? Does she think that she could actually control Casey?

What on Gods name is CA thinking????

 

[bocephus]

I haven't read any of the recent posts on this thread. But a thought popped in my head a minute or so ago ....

CA is trying desperately to get Casey to walk on these charges. In her heart of hearts she must know that Casey murdered Caylee. What on Earth does Cindy think Casey would be like if she were to go free as Cindy wants? Does she think Casey will be any different? Does she not realize that Casey would be 10 times more dangerous (to pretty much anyone who got in her way) if she was able to get away with murder? Does she think that she could actually control Casey?

What on Gods name is CA thinking????

Think of the living hell Cindy can make Casey's life if she walks. Remember, like daughter like mother....they are both spiteful 'es.