Cindy's BoA Checking Account

[watergirl]

I don't think so. The notation would not be "online banking withdrawl".



Thanks! The only thing is - the check would be made out to Cindy since she is the account holder.

Oh snap! I will need even more coffee to figure that part out. :coffeeup:

Ive never even heard of this and I used to bank at BofA. It sounds kinda old school.

I noticed when I did a search on "withdrawal by check Bank of America" i could see where the google hit snippet says withdrawal by check not allowed, but cant find it in the actual site document. I wonder if it is a discontinued account feature.

linky

:waitasec:

 

[beach]

For some reason I was thinking maybe this was Cindy trying to move her money around so George and Casey couldn't get to it.

MOO :twocents:

I'm understanding your line of thinking, but this looks like Casey's shenanigans to me. I think that was Casey who paid HUGE AT&T bill. If CA were moving money around, I would think she would just make ONE large transaction. Somebody KNEW that there was a hefty deposit on the 5/6/08. The next day money was disappearing fast.

That was kinda why I wondered if maybe the forged deposit slip might have coincided with the timing of all these transactions.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Hooray! :clap: I completely agree, LambChop. It drives me crazy the way CA talks to others making excuses about why SHE CAN'T file for divorce. When in reality, it was GA who filed. Cindy never talks about the fact that it was George who petitioned the court for divorce. :angel: The question is what motivated George to file for divorce. IIRC, they BOTH confirmed that the issues with Casey were the BIG problem between them during that time. They argued constantly about how to deal with Casey. I'm not taking up for George either, but I have always felt he wanted Casey to be held accountable and Cindy just refused. However, being the best martyr she can be, Cindy tells others the stories that shed the best light on HER and elicit empathy.

They have had money problems all their married life, so nothing new there and I am sure the breakup was over Casey. CA did not have the backbone to confront and discipline her, and when GA attempted to she undermined everything he did and was content to let him be the bad guy as long as she could remain popular with KC.

 

[Solace]

I have never heard that CA threw him out. My understanding was that he left and filed for divorce. And did he use CA's credit card, or his own? CA's appears to be in her name only. What he did was wrong but worker's comp. is not "their" money it's in payment for injuries he suffered. So if he left CA that money would go with him. Same thing with CA. She was making the money and it was up to her to manage it. Best way to handle a gambler is to keep your money separate. So if he used her card he was obligated to pay her back from his comp. money. But I never heard that CA threw him out. Never heard he left for another woman but what I did hear was the neighbors saying CA had a male friend who visited the home. They described him as a boyfriend. For the short duration GA was gone from the home it appears CA did not waste any time. Not sticking up for GA just trying to find out if this is speculation or something that was actually reported.

And we can see that KC ran through quite a bit of her mother's money without any one stopping her. Could it be GA had had enough of it and left? Nothing worse than coming between a gambler and his money. Just speculating here. lol jmo

I believe George tells the FBI that Cindy said she wanted him out and that she could handle the family without him and George said she did.

 

[sarah7855]

This one confuses me.

In ONE day (5/7/08) there are 4 online banking withdrawl transactions totaling $1,910.91. Why was this done in a series of transactions instead of just withdrawing it all at once? Also, I find the first amount curious since it isn't a "round" number. Why THAT particular amount?

I have never "withdrawn" money online. How does that work? I mean, how is that money disbursed? I have only "withdrawn" as a debit card transaction either through an ATM or paying a bill online (as shows up in the 5/8/08 AT&T payment.)

And does this 5/6/08 deposit date in any way correspond the the deposit slip she forged?

I feel like I am totally missing obvious something here....:waitasec:

Question: how do we know it says "online banking withdrawal"? The only link I can find has a redaction over the text that describes those particular transactions. I am asking because it looks to me like those are online banking transfers, not "withdrawals", which would answer part of your question. I bank w/ BOA, and that's what the text reads (Online banking transfer, confirmation #xxxxxxxx) when you do a transfer from your online banking login. I can't be 100% certain because of the redaction, but am pretty sure. That would mean she's transferring that money amongst bank accounts, and BOA actually has a feature that allows you to set up a list of bank accounts that you can transfer money amongst, even if the accounts are from other banks. She could have been moving that money anywhere, really. We wouldn't be able to tell without an unredacted copy of these records.

 

[strawberry]

Does anyone know if there are transcripts for the FBI interviews? I want to re-visit what she said about Casey and $ but I don't want to have to listen to it...I can read faster. And it's annoying. TIA

 

[watergirl]

Does anyone know if there are transcripts for the FBI interviews? I want to re-visit what she said about Casey and $ but I don't want to have to listen to it...I can read faster. And it's annoying. TIA

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

Valhall has GA and CA FBI interviews transcribed.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Question: how do we know it says "online banking withdrawal"? The only link I can find has a redaction over the text that describes those particular transactions. I am asking because it looks to me like those are online banking transfers, not "withdrawals", which would answer part of your question. I bank w/ BOA, and that's what the text reads (Online banking transfer, confirmation #xxxxxxxx) when you do a transfer from your online banking login. I can't be 100% certain because of the redaction, but am pretty sure. That would mean she's transferring that money amongst bank accounts, and BOA actually has a feature that allows you to set up a list of bank accounts that you can transfer money amongst, even if the accounts are from other banks. She could have been moving that money anywhere, really. We wouldn't be able to tell without an unredacted copy of these records.

Yes, I'm so sorry for any confusion. "Withdrawal" was my word because it was money leaving the account. The statement itself does not say withdrawal. You can't read the whole line because it's blacked out. It could be a transfer to another account. That was my initial thought but it didn't show up in any other account according the statement. I didn't know you could do a transfer to another bank. If that's the case I think it's the most likely scenario. I do think it's Casey doing it, but there's no way to prove it so just my opinion.

Again sorry for the confusion. It is really weird though with so many transactions in one day, all different amounts. I would love to know what was really going on.

 

[watergirl]

Yes, transfer makes more sense. Whenever I transfer funds between my own accounts or to my DD's, its always in multiples of 100. I like round numbers.

 

[Intermezzo]

Yes, I'm so sorry for any confusion. "Withdrawal" was my word because it was money leaving the account. The statement itself does not say withdrawal. You can't read the whole line because it's blacked out. It could be a transfer to another account. That was my initial thought but it didn't show up in any other account according the statement. I didn't know you could do a transfer to another bank. If that's the case I think it's the most likely scenario. I do think it's Casey doing it, but there's no way to prove it so just my opinion.

Again sorry for the confusion. It is really weird though with so many transactions in one day, all different amounts. I would love to know what was really going on.

I thought perhaps Casey had opened up an account in her own name either at BoA or at another Bank and she was transferring money into her account to save money for when she did not have a source to steal it from.

I have set up and transferred funds online from one banking institution to another...

Yet the withdrawals of $400, then $300, then $200 also look like ATM withdrawals but could be transfers.

 

[beach]

Question: how do we know it says "online banking withdrawal"? The only link I can find has a redaction over the text that describes those particular transactions. I am asking because it looks to me like those are online banking transfers, not "withdrawals", which would answer part of your question. I bank w/ BOA, and that's what the text reads (Online banking transfer, confirmation #xxxxxxxx) when you do a transfer from your online banking login. I can't be 100% certain because of the redaction, but am pretty sure. That would mean she's transferring that money amongst bank accounts, and BOA actually has a feature that allows you to set up a list of bank accounts that you can transfer money amongst, even if the accounts are from other banks. She could have been moving that money anywhere, really. We wouldn't be able to tell without an unredacted copy of these records.

Yes, I'm so sorry for any confusion. "Withdrawal" was my word because it was money leaving the account. The statement itself does not say withdrawal. You can't read the whole line because it's blacked out. It could be a transfer to another account. That was my initial thought but it didn't show up in any other account according the statement. I didn't know you could do a transfer to another bank. If that's the case I think it's the most likely scenario. I do think it's Casey doing it, but there's no way to prove it so just my opinion.

Again sorry for the confusion. It is really weird though with so many transactions in one day, all different amounts. I would love to know what was really going on.

BBM

Thanks to both of you for clearing that up! I could not open the pdf to check when I was speculating.

I am just trying to reconcile everything in my head ('cause this whole money scam/fraud deal is a bit complicated to my simple mind). So, there are 2 accounts - one not opened until March '08. And from what I can tell, it appears that Casey might have opened that 2nd acct. w/o CA's knowledge, right? Do the records we have show that either one of these accounts was ever closed? (after CA discovered this mess :waitasec And in re. the portion of DP's post that I bolded, the funds were not being transferred between those 2 accts. I am trying to figure out who knew that $3500+ deposit was going to hit the bank. Because I think it is reasonable to assume that whoever knew that was the same one transferring the funds. Where they went is anyone's guess???

I'm sure that made no sense to anyone but me. LOLOL Seriously, Casey might not have been the brightest crayon in the box when it comes to some things, but that girl knew exactly what she was doing when it came to ripping people off. I can't follow it. :loser: No wonder GA had his sent to a P.O. Box. It is glaring that KC didn't pull this crap with him, but she didn't hesitate when it came to Cindy or Grandma Shirley.

 

[watergirl]

IIRC, Shirley told LE that Cindy closed her bank account.

 

[Intermezzo]

So you think CA had another account?

the docs have only shown us the A's account...we don't know if Casey did or did not have a bank account with BoA or another Bank.

I think its possible Casey had an account she was transferring funds into while still stealing from Cindy and others but not dipping into her "savings"..

 

[sleutherontheside]

THe "strange comments" made by CA during the foreclosure / modification all make sense now.

IIRC...Cindy made comments about paperwork and signatures and BOA fraudulent blah blah blah......I am wondering if the fact that BOA cashed her checks with a signature that DID NOT match her own was part of the reason for their "lightning fast" foreclosure modification????

Does anyone else remember this????

 

[Dear Prudence]

the docs have only shown us the A's account...we don't know if Casey did or did not have a bank account with BoA or another Bank.

I think its possible Casey had an account she was transferring funds into while still stealing from Cindy and others but not dipping into her "savings"..

You're so right! I just assumed that LE included Casey in their request to BofA but the subpoena only asks for the account records for George, Cindy, and Cindy's parents. How strange is that? Have KC's been released in an earlier doc dump?

 

[Dear Prudence]

BBM

Thanks to both of you for clearing that up! I could not open the pdf to check when I was speculating.

I am just trying to reconcile everything in my head ('cause this whole money scam/fraud deal is a bit complicated to my simple mind). So, there are 2 accounts - one not opened until March '08. And from what I can tell, it appears that Casey might have opened that 2nd acct. w/o CA's knowledge, right? Do the records we have show that either one of these accounts was ever closed? (after CA discovered this mess :waitasec And in re. the portion of DP's post that I bolded, the funds were not being transferred between those 2 accts. I am trying to figure out who knew that $3500+ deposit was going to hit the bank. Because I think it is reasonable to assume that whoever knew that was the same one transferring the funds. Where they went is anyone's guess???

I'm sure that made no sense to anyone but me. LOLOL Seriously, Casey might not have been the brightest crayon in the box when it comes to some things, but that girl knew exactly what she was doing when it came to ripping people off. I can't follow it. :loser: No wonder GA had his sent to a P.O. Box. It is glaring that KC didn't pull this crap with him, but she didn't hesitate when it came to Cindy or Grandma Shirley.

There are two checking accounts in Cindy's name. It's my belief KC somehow opened the second one on March 14, 2008. There is one $2000 online transfer from the 1st checking account to the second one on March 21st. Neither account was closed during the time period that we have the statements which is Jan. to Aug. 2008. The 2nd account has activity on each monthly statement from when it was opened in March up until July 10, 2008. The balance was less than $100 at this time. This is around the same time KC started using Amy's checkbook. The statement for July 22 - Aug. 19 has no activity whatsoever which of course we know is when KC was in jail.

 

[beach]

Maybe I'm just naive but I can't see any bank leaving a checking account of KC's open for very long. I mean if she will commit this much fraud against her mother, grandma and BFF Amy, I don't think she would think twice about writing a bunch of bad checks. kwim?

 

[beach]

There are two checking accounts in Cindy's name. It's my belief KC somehow opened the second one on March 14, 2008. There is one $2000 online transfer from the 1st checking account to the second one on March 21st. Neither account was closed during the time period that we have the statements which is Jan. to Aug. 2008. The 2nd account has activity on each monthly statement from when it was opened in March up until July 10, 2008. The balance was less than $100 at this time. This is around the same time KC started using Amy's checkbook. The statement for July 22 - Aug. 19 has no activity whatsoever which of course we know is when KC was in jail.

Thank you for putting the dots real close together for me, Dear Prudence! :blowkiss:

IIRC (the one time I have been able to open the pdf), CA's paycheck was auto deposited into the 1st account. I'm still confused about the $3,590 deposit in the 2nd acct. Do we know where that came from?

Sorry guys. This is the last I will ask about this until I get to another PC that will open the pdf. I'm one of those people who balances my accounts by checking online every few days. :blushing: My financial life is very, very simple. lol The money comes in and *poof* the money goes out.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Thank you for putting the dots real close together for me, Dear Prudence! :blowkiss:

IIRC (the one time I have been able to open the pdf), CA's paycheck was auto deposited into the 1st account. I'm still confused about the $3,590 deposit in the 2nd acct. Do we know where that came from?

Sorry guys. This is the last I will ask about this until I get to another PC that will open the pdf. I'm one of those people who balances my accounts by checking online every few days. :blushing: My financial life is very, very simple. lol The money comes in and *poof* the money goes out.

Don't know where that $3590 came from. I was thinking it was the $4000 George talked about KC somehow faking or getting mugged or something, but according to his interview that happened during her fake Sports Authority job which wouldn't be the same timeframe.

Also, I'm curious about another deposit of about $1100 made on 3/17/08 to the 2nd acct. The account was opened on the 14th with $25 then the deposit of $1100 on the 17th.

 

[beach]

THe "strange comments" made by CA during the foreclosure / modification all make sense now.

IIRC...Cindy made comments about paperwork and signatures and BOA fraudulent blah blah blah......I am wondering if the fact that BOA cashed her checks with a signature that DID NOT match her own was part of the reason for their "lightning fast" foreclosure modification????

Does anyone else remember this????

BBM

I vaguely recall her commenting about the sig cards...:waitasec: Was it made in re. to the foreclosure proceedings though? I don't remember. Mainly what I recall is thinking it was one of those times she didn't know when to stop talking.