Cindy's BoA Checking Account

[RR0004]

1. My guess why CA didn't respond ASAP to these thefts:

She had to know about the check thefts. How could she not, what with the amounts, and the zero-ing of bank balances which caused more bounced checks, etc. Going through the recent-enough GA theft ordeal. Trying to catch up financially. She knew. She'd have to be comatose not to.

2. CA's default mode seems to be denial, and i think that's the deep rabbit hole she went down after the major check thefts began in December 2007.

I think her fear about OCA's increasingly erratic and angry behavior-- including but not restricted to the thefts-- was too great for her to face, all the more so because it caused her own increasing rage that she would not allow herself to confront or deal with either. Deny, deny, deny.

2. One of my guesses about OCA's check theft behavior:

I think OCA starting the major check thefts for the simple reason that she wanted stuff, she didn't have money of her own, and it didn't bother her one wit to steal.

After the first round of thefts, I think a different dynamic began. OCA saw that CA was staying silent on the matter, so she upped the ante, both because she knew she could, and because she was curious how far she could go before CA cracked. She likely relished this means of tormenting and controlling her mother.

OCA must have been especially gratified about this particular torment because it was a perfect and on-point revenge for CA ignoring OCA's objections and allowing thieving GA back into the household. (That insult still very much on OCA's mind through June 2008).

More thefts, daily thefts, and still no response from CA. OCA must have despised and felt more contemptuous of CA by the day.

At some point I think the lack of a response from CA might have caused OCA a different flavor of rage. Here she was, as in CA's face as she could possibly get, and her mother STILL wouldn't acknowledge her.

More thefts by OCA, more silence from CA, increasing rage felt by both, a battle of wills.
Finally, in silence, without giving OCA the satisfaction of a confrontation, CA won the battle by closing her account. Take THAT, daughter.

I think it's possible that the rage OCA felt after CA closed the account (neck breaking Googles, etc) wasn't so much because she had her spending avenue cut off, but because her mother had once again, from OCA's perspective, taken back absolute control of OCA. And THAT loss of control, OCA's bottom line, she was absolutely NOT going to tolerate.

Just a theory.

It's just Casey NOT getting what she wanted. IMHO Casey would do pretty much anything to have what she wants...including disposing of her child.

 

[RR0004]

Oh...and let's not forget that Casey tried to stay off "consequences" with the deposit slip (was that for $4000?) which turned out to be an already used deposit slip IIRC.
It wouldn't have mattered what the consequences were...Casey wouldn't have cared. She still doesn't care. She didn't care when she stole from her parents...she did not care when she stole from her friends. She DOES NOT CARE...period. The only thing of any consequence that the As could have done (for their own sanity) would have been to kick her out...and we know that wasn't about to happen.
JMO

 

[2goldfish]

The other thing that occurs to me is that we all assume OCA killed Caylee in a rage because of an argument with CA...and it could have been as simple as Caylee saying CeCe is mad at you for stealing Grandpa's money....If OCA was already seriously over the age about being cut off - a simple comment might very well have been the trigger...

I just spent a day with a little guy just over two and was amazed at his vocabulary and how clearly he says things - also that he says things to see what effect they will have.

that's what I've always believed. I think the murder was due to all of these things, the stealing being curbed, her parents expecting her to shape the fork up, (I know CA is in full deny mode now but to me it is clear she wasnt shy about telling OCA to shape up or risk shipping out, before the murder)

I think on june 16th of 2008 OCA had barely slept the previous night (cf the texts, calls, and computer activity) so her nerves were shot and at some point that afternoon, poor little caylee "irritated" OCA to the point of no return. it could have been anything, perhaps she had an potty accident (check out spotlight on children forum if you want to be horrified how many people kill their kids over toilet accidents), it could have been crying for CA, it could have been caylee refusing to nap, or perhaps throughout the day it was all of these til OCA decided duct tape was the answer.

I suspect that after the google searches in march of 2008, it wasnt IF OCA was going to kill, it was WHEN she was going to.

now we know when. now we can only hope she doesnt reach that point again. I do NOT believe OCA is a one trick pony.

 

[luvmygarden]

Oh...and let's not forget that Casey tried to stay off "consequences" with the deposit slip (was that for $4000?) which turned out to be an already used deposit slip IIRC.
It wouldn't have mattered what the consequences were...Casey wouldn't have cared. She still doesn't care. She didn't care when she stole from her parents...she did not care when she stole from her friends. She DOES NOT CARE...period. The only thing of any consequence that the As could have done (for their own sanity) would have been to kick her out...and we know that wasn't about to happen.
JMO

In One of Casey's jail videos she let her parents know that her being there
is not helping her. I think she expected an overnighter as a punishment and when that didn't happen she had a meltdown with them. Cindy said they didn't have the bail money and George said he wished there was something they could do. He even mentioned he asked family and no one could help.
Her first thought when they said how much the reward was is "Oh thats almost my bail money" They just looked at her hoping it didn't get recorded I bet. Casey was showing her true concern and it wasn't Caylee. When she was so mad at Cindy in court she was out for bear with her parents and DCS couldn't calm her down. Yes she got herself in a pickle which will not end for a very very long time:

 

[MsMacGyver]

Good morning everyone...I'm looking for some help. I spent half the day yesterday going through the archived files trying to find a file with the snapshots of CA's BOA. I'm using the timeline some nice fellow WSer sent me as a link to go through but I need the checks and statements file. Everytime I go to doc site, the screen turns black!
Driving me a little crazy. I'm having a sit down day today, too much work yesterday, putting plastic on windows to get ready for winter. I went through part of the Timeline created here and saw soooo many things..real eye opener!...

 

[Intermezzo]

Good morning everyone...I'm looking for some help. I spent half the day yesterday going through the archived files trying to find a file with the snapshots of CA's BOA. I'm using the timeline some nice fellow WSer sent me as a link to go through but I need the checks and statements file. Everytime I go to doc site, the screen turns black!
Driving me a little crazy. I'm having a sit down day today, too much work yesterday, putting plastic on windows to get ready for winter. I went through part of the Timeline created here and saw soooo many things..real eye opener!...

Here's the link to CFnews13 on the Discovery docs regarding Cindy's BoA account, looks like they don't have all the statements on their website...I don't see the statements from Dec 2007 to March 2008 other than the Credit Line Account

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Binder22556-22974-1102_Part3.pdf

Some where along the lines I missed the BoA Credit Line that seemed to be over the limit and past due..a lot
And I don't remember seeing grandma Shirley's bank account statements.....unless I have just forgotten...it's a possbility.

This link has statements beginning in Nov 2007
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/59917728/Cindy-Anthony-financial-bank-statements-part-2

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/59917719/Cindy-Anthony-financial-bank-statements-part-1


I remember LDB saying during one of the side bars that they had HUNDREDS and hundreds of checks Casey had written...I don't believe we have seen hundreds..but I did not keep count of the checks Casey may have written and the ones Cindy may have written..

 

[logicalgirl]

Here's the link to CFnews13 on the Discovery docs regarding Cindy's BoA account, looks like they don't have all the statements on their website...I don't see the statements from Dec 2007 to March 2008 other than the Credit Line Account

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/Binder22556-22974-1102_Part3.pdf

Some where along the lines I missed the BoA Credit Line that seemed to be over the limit and past due..a lot
And I don't remember seeing grandma Shirley's bank account statements.....unless I have just forgotten...it's a possbility.

This link has statements beginning in Nov 2007
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/59917728/Cindy-Anthony-financial-bank-statements-part-2

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/59917719/Cindy-Anthony-financial-bank-statements-part-1


I remember LDB saying during one of the side bars that they had HUNDREDS and hundreds of checks Casey had written...I don't believe we have seen hundreds..but I did not keep count of the checks Casey may have written and the ones Cindy may have written..

I also think it helps to remember that we don't know how long LDB went back in time. Everyone talked about OCA's behaviour changing after she had Caylee, but who knows, perhaps this stealing from her mother went back well before that time...

 

[Solace]

The other thing that occurs to me is that we all assume OCA killed Caylee in a rage because of an argument with CA...and it could have been as simple as Caylee saying CeCe is mad at you for stealing Grandpa's money....If OCA was already seriously over the age about being cut off - a simple comment might very well have been the trigger...

I just spent a day with a little guy just over two and was amazed at his vocabulary and how clearly he says things - also that he says things to see what effect they will have.

Hi Logical,

Here is part 3 of the interview: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x94fAP-6hg"]Dr Phil the Anthony Interview Pt. 3 - YouTube[/ame]

Also, I think it is more likely that KC was being firmly cut off moneywise by Cindy before June (even thought KC was tryng to steal from her and possibly at times succeeded with credit cards, etc.) and I think she was confronted on June 15th because Cindy had just returned from her mother's and it was fresh in her mind. Cindy also told Dr. Phil that the stealing from her father's account was a big turning point. Why would Jesse Grund lie about this - there is no reason for it. He says Lee told him that there was a huge fight and I bet Lee did; Lee did not think the child was dead; he probably thought KC is keeping Caylee from my Mom because they had a huge fight.

Cindy also tells Dr. Phil that she was called to Baez' office because KC wanted Cindy to know about the death first. That to me is an act of I still hate your guts and you get to know first, no matter how much Cindy twists it that it meant KC cared enough to tell her first. And also don't forget to tell my mom that I am going to accuse her husband of molestation for years and years.


Cindy says it would not work out if KC asked to live with them after all George has been through.

 

[logicalgirl]

Hi Logical,

Here is part 3 of the interview: Dr Phil the Anthony Interview Pt. 3 - YouTube

Also, I think it is more likely that KC was being firmly cut off moneywise by Cindy before June (even thought KC was tryng to steal from her and possibly at times succeeded with credit cards, etc.) and I think she was confronted on June 15th because Cindy had just returned from her mother's and it was fresh in her mind. Cindy also told Dr. Phil that the stealing from her father's account was a big turning point. Why would Jesse Grund lie about this - there is no reason for it. He says Lee told him that there was a huge fight and I bet Lee did; Lee did not think the child was dead; he probably thought KC is keeping Caylee from my Mom because they had a huge fight.

Cindy also tells Dr. Phil that she was called to Baez' office because KC wanted Cindy to know about the death first. That to me is an act of I still hate your guts and you get to know first, no matter how much Cindy twists it that it meant KC cared enough to tell her first. And also don't forget to tell my mom that I am going to accuse her husband of molestation for years and years.


Cindy says it would not work out if KC asked to live with them after all George has been through.

You saw JB calling CA to his office to let her know OCA wanted to tell her Caylee died on Day One as a act of love? After three years?

Straight, Outright and Outrageous Manipulation? Yes....Love/Caring? OCA? Not a chance...IMO

Have I mentioned I think the entire interview with Dr. Phil is "the best they could whitewash it" CARP? Not a shred of truth in it and some :ignore: to make a few bucks?

But then I'm a "it's not what you say it's what you do" kind of gal...

 

[Solace]

You saw JB calling CA to his office to let her know OCA wanted to tell her Caylee died on Day One as a act of love? After three years?

Straight, Outright and Outrageous Manipulation? Yes....Love/Caring? OCA? Not a chance...IMO

Have I mentioned I think the entire interview with Dr. Phil is "the best they could whitewash it" CARP? Not a shred of truth in it and some :ignore: to make a few bucks?

But then I'm a "it's not what you say it's what you do" kind of gal...

I did not see it as an act of love - but I gleaned that Cindy was trying to portray it that way since Cindy was the only one called to the office. I think it was an act of "hate".

Here is what I wrote Logical: "Cindy also tells Dr. Phil that she was called to Baez' office because KC wanted Cindy to know about the death first. That to me is an act of I still hate your guts and you get to know first, no matter how much Cindy twists it that it meant KC cared enough to tell her first. And also don't forget to tell my mom that I am going to accuse her husband of molestation for years and years.

 

[logicalgirl]

I did not see it as an act of love - but I gleaned that Cindy was trying to portray it that way since Cindy was the only one called to the office. I think it was an act of "hate".

Here is what I wrote Logical: "Cindy also tells Dr. Phil that she was called to Baez' office because KC wanted Cindy to know about the death first. That to me is an act of I still hate your guts and you get to know first, no matter how much Cindy twists it that it meant KC cared enough to tell her first. And also don't forget to tell my mom that I am going to accuse her husband of molestation for years and years.

Solace :slap: Logical Girl... - my apologies....I still don't get why the reason CA says OCA can't come home is because of George...which implies she could if it was up to just CA, unless she wants OCA under her thumb to make her "pay" in a whole different way...

Or is it because she doesn't have the backbone to finally turn herself away from her daughter? Wow, if killing your own daughter doesn't do it for CA, I don't know what will.

 

[LambChop]

Let's not forget the real reason JB told CA and that is they wanted CA on their side because of what they were going to do to GA. CA, of course, never got past the "she wanted ME to know about it first." Obviously CA was not the first to know.

If KC were to walk up and try to shoot say a statesman CA's justification would be that as a civil servant this person was NOT doing their job and all KC was doing was trying to save the world. KC can do no wrong, ever. All CA could say was, "Well, she (KC) knows I'm mad at her." Using her father as an excuse was morally rehensible but CA treats it as, "well, you know, she lies." jmo

 

[Hope4More]

(Sorry for long delay in posting this- lots of real-time real-life to attend to).

I have to say it feels ridiculously good to have my theory well received by you peeps here, especially since y'all are so well-versed in this case.

This thread prompted me to go through the actual BoA records evidence for the first time. Its difficult not to be struck by the significance of the thefts, both to the case time-line and to what had to be transpiring with the perp and CA psychologically. It is particularly difficult to accept as coincidence that OCA's google searches began when the BoA money ended.

Logical Girl, I agree with you that the argument on June 16th wasn't necessarily THE trigger, if a trigger at all. What I mean is that I don't believe that fight prompted OCA to think murder for the first time. I agree with you, 2Goldfish. that the March 2008 Google searches marked the end for Caylee. I think it was exactly then that OCA "killed" Caylee in her own mind and moved on.

After that, the actual murder was for OCA likely just a matter of logistics and timing. Based on her sorry record of supreme laziness in every area of her life though, I doubt OCA spent much time planning Caylee's murder. Caylee was already dead to her.

That CA was willing and able to cut OCA off financially (from OCA's perspective) meant that Caylee no longer was of guaranteed use as a meal/job avoidance ticket. To OCA, Caylee served no purpose at all, except to limit OCA's options.

I don't think it is a coincidence that OCA was so actively searching for boyfriends after March. She was searching for her next mark. Incapable of actually creating a life for herself, she was looking for a life someone else had created/was creating that she could insert herself into, one that would take her out of her house and allow her to do as she pleased.

(A honest advertisement for herself would read- "Looking for a sucker: will trade sex and doing your laundry for room and board and no questions asked )


Also, I remember how taken I was during closing arguments with JA's statement that OCA's time had been running out bcause Caylee was learning how to speak and would have revealed OCA's world of lies. I still think, Logical girl, that Caylee's getting more verbal posed a threat to OCA, but I'm unconvinced that was an immediate threat, or had much to do with the timing of Caylee's murder.

Caylee was already plenty verbal enough to answer GA or CA, if they had ever asked: how was your day, Caylee? What did you get to do? Did you have a good time with Zanny? It blows the mind, actually, that this horrible family didn't provide Caylee with even that sliver of normalcy and loving attention. :furious: :furious:

 

[logicalgirl]

(Sorry for long delay in posting this- lots of real-time real-life to attend to).

I have to say it feels ridiculously good to have my theory well received by you peeps here, especially since y'all are so well-versed in this case.

This thread prompted me to go through the actual BoA records evidence for the first time. Its difficult not to be struck by the significance of the thefts, both to the case time-line and to what had to be transpiring with the perp and CA psychologically. It is particularly difficult to accept as coincidence that OCA's google searches began when the BoA money ended.

Logical Girl, I agree with you that the argument on June 16th wasn't necessarily THE trigger, if a trigger at all. What I mean is that I don't believe that fight prompted OCA to think murder for the first time. I agree with you, 2Goldfish. that the March 2008 Google searches marked the end for Caylee. I think it was exactly then that OCA "killed" Caylee in her own mind and moved on.

After that, the actual murder was for OCA likely just a matter of logistics and timing. Based on her sorry record of supreme laziness in every area of her life though, I doubt OCA spent much time planning Caylee's murder. Caylee was already dead to her.

That CA was willing and able to cut OCA off financially (from OCA's perspective) meant that Caylee no longer was of guaranteed use as a meal/job avoidance ticket. To OCA, Caylee served no purpose at all, except to limit OCA's options.

I don't think it is a coincidence that OCA was so actively searching for boyfriends after March. She was searching for her next mark. Incapable of actually creating a life for herself, she was looking for a life someone else had created/was creating that she could insert herself into, one that would take her out of her house and allow her to do as she pleased.

(A honest advertisement for herself would read- "Looking for a sucker: will trade sex and doing your laundry for room and board and no questions asked )


Also, I remember how taken I was during closing arguments with JA's statement that OCA's time had been running out bcause Caylee was learning how to speak and would have revealed OCA's world of lies. I still think, Logical girl, that Caylee's getting more verbal posed a threat to OCA, but I'm unconvinced that was an immediate threat, or had much to do with the timing of Caylee's murder.

Caylee was already plenty verbal enough to answer GA or CA, if they had ever asked: how was your day, Caylee? What did you get to do? Did you have a good time with Zanny? It blows the mind, actually, that this horrible family didn't provide Caylee with even that sliver of normalcy and loving attention. :furious: :furious:

I do remember George saying when he asked about Zanny Caylee always looked puzzled and chattered on about other things..

I agree with most of what you said except my thoughts are that in March OCA's first thought was to get rid of her parents who were the source of her money woes. Then as she shopped for a new man - the eureka of Caylee being the actual burden was revealed. I think up until that point, Caylee was part of the package of sweet young mother of a child - both need protecting from abusive parents routine she'd been running. Think Jesse G and Richard Morales...

 

[MsMacGyver]

I found the link I was looking for...nothing earth shattering but it does prove that verbally CA did not give FCA permission to access her accounts. CA says this, in her own words by answering FBI questions. CA's actions are a horse of a different color. I love the Wizard of OZ!

CA was allowing FCA to steal from her before Dec. 2007...CA just ignored what was going on until FCA crossed a line...Then it became an issue. See withdrawl by FCA in Dec of 814.00 to pay cell phone bill. Considering FCA patterns, this was about 4 months worth of past due bills. I also saw that each cell phone bill after Dec. 2007...FCA draws the money out of CA's savings to pay her cell phone bill at least up through May 2008. Her average cell bill is 190.00 each month with the exception of May, the highest 220.56...old news I know...cont.

jmo



http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/11/09/the-anthony-encycliepedia-cindy-talks-about-money/


What I see is this...CA testified that she did search chloroform. Once you start looking at the searches the question begs to be answered....We know CA wasn't home when some searches were done. It could be the expert did find the search CA did do and just didn't include this search in the evidence. For all we know CA could have searched chloroform in 2001! My question is, from the searches we are privy to, was one of them done by CA and if so, did CA search for any self defense information. It's very possible that CA and FCA had another physical fight BEFORE June 15th and CA wanted to defend herself against FCA. The reverse is also possible, FCA wanted to win the next round with CA. This theory is more likely to me. I just didn't want to make the mistake of looking at the evidence and assuming it was all from FCA's perspective. I believe there were previous physical fights, CA being larger than FCA always prevailed. FCA could have just been looking for ways to fight better the next time the fisties started to fly...jmo

 

[MsMacGyver]

Now we can see by going through FCA's shopping trips/patterns that her spending isn't that outrageous. Whats outrageous is shes stealing/using CA's money to do it!
CA knows this, she knows FCA is using her money to live off. In the link I provided CA says..FCA told her she lost alot of money in the "stock market"..Her and "Zanny" both. So Zanny existed in Dec 2007, maybe. In Dec and Jan FCA shopping bills aren't too bad...563.00 in Dec and 367.52 in Jan.....Feb. was a busy month...804.17

FCA and Ricardo M. were dating...Jan2008-May2008

Feb and March FCA goes to Walgreens...either birth control or pregnacy tests. The walgreens generic test you can purchase 2 for 10.00. The name brands are around 25.00 each. Was FCA trying to get pregnant again or trying NOT to get pregnant?
Possible she picked up cash here also.

Keep in mind also, all those trips to Target, K-mart, Ross...these all have clothing. FCA hides cash shes taking by purchasing clothing and then returning for cash.
Not sure when and how much food she was buying but we can figure a percentage for food. She might have been buying diapers also. I can't see her spending alot of money on Caylee for clothes. She must have been paying cash for gas as I didn't see any gas stations recorded. There were a couple trips to Michaels (crafts), Publix (groceries). FCA probably decorating RM apartment/townhouse....Cozy..HuH

Then theres CA's credit card. Looks like FCA was living on this prior to Dec 2007. Seems like all the charges were from the 4,000.00 balance. CA really got sacked for late charges, overlimit charges and interest. Balance went from around 4,000.00 to close to 8,000.00 just on fees alone. I didn't do a summary on this....cont.
jmo

 

[MsMacGyver]

(Sorry for long delay in posting this- lots of real-time real-life to attend to).

I have to say it feels ridiculously good to have my theory well received by you peeps here, especially since y'all are so well-versed in this case.

This thread prompted me to go through the actual BoA records evidence for the first time. Its difficult not to be struck by the significance of the thefts, both to the case time-line and to what had to be transpiring with the perp and CA psychologically. It is particularly difficult to accept as coincidence that OCA's google searches began when the BoA money ended.

Logical Girl, I agree with you that the argument on June 16th wasn't necessarily THE trigger, if a trigger at all. What I mean is that I don't believe that fight prompted OCA to think murder for the first time. I agree with you, 2Goldfish. that the March 2008 Google searches marked the end for Caylee. I think it was exactly then that OCA "killed" Caylee in her own mind and moved on.

After that, the actual murder was for OCA likely just a matter of logistics and timing. Based on her sorry record of supreme laziness in every area of her life though, I doubt OCA spent much time planning Caylee's murder. Caylee was already dead to her.

That CA was willing and able to cut OCA off financially (from OCA's perspective) meant that Caylee no longer was of guaranteed use as a meal/job avoidance ticket. To OCA, Caylee served no purpose at all, except to limit OCA's options.

I don't think it is a coincidence that OCA was so actively searching for boyfriends after March. She was searching for her next mark. Incapable of actually creating a life for herself, she was looking for a life someone else had created/was creating that she could insert herself into, one that would take her out of her house and allow her to do as she pleased.

(A honest advertisement for herself would read- "Looking for a sucker: will trade sex and doing your laundry for room and board and no questions asked )


Also, I remember how taken I was during closing arguments with JA's statement that OCA's time had been running out bcause Caylee was learning how to speak and would have revealed OCA's world of lies. I still think, Logical girl, that Caylee's getting more verbal posed a threat to OCA, but I'm unconvinced that was an immediate threat, or had much to do with the timing of Caylee's murder.

Caylee was already plenty verbal enough to answer GA or CA, if they had ever asked: how was your day, Caylee? What did you get to do? Did you have a good time with Zanny? It blows the mind, actually, that this horrible family didn't provide Caylee with even that sliver of normalcy and loving attention. :furious: :furious:

BBM

Hope4More...I wanted to make sure not to lose your great post. I'm having the same problem as you...multitasking coming out of my ears....:floorlaugh:

I wanted to extend a belated...... WELCOME.....:seeya:

I can tell from your post you put great thought into it. The issue with FCA searching for her new mark in March is where we might differ a bit. I've included a link to a site LG put me onto and find it invaluable when searching for info. Now I'm flying by the seat of my pants this morning so keep in mind I scanned through some things this morning. In March FCA was still involved with RM. Their relationship was from Jan-May 2008. She started with TL late May. If you follow link and see Anthony R interview, it blows the mind. FCA went from JG around Dec. 2007 to RM..Jan-May 2008.
With a side order of Anthony R having sex once in Jan 2008, again in May 2008. FCA telling AR in early May 2008 that her and JG are fighting, shes talking about new guy TL when in fact shes involved with RM, well that relationship has pretty much done. FCA shows up in late May and has sex with AR for the last time.....

WoW................hwow:........................:shush:

This site has become my second home but I must...step away...from computer......:giggle:

Hope you find the link helpful..I won't leave home without it.....:floorlaugh:

jmo...:heartbeat:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45007185/Casey-antony-rick-plesea-transcript-21Aug2008
Rick Plesea LE interview

There are more financials that we have not seen....namely Credit Card statements
Not only was Casey stealing from the bank account but had been using Cindy's credit cards as well...
According to Rick, (Cindy's brother) he states that Casey almost bankrupted Cindy due to her stealing Cindy's credit cards and running up credit. And Cindy had to go take money out of her 401k (over $50,000)

I think those statements are part of the evidence LDB had on Casey that she could have used at trial if she did not say anything and allowed the DT start into the family's dysfunction.

 

[Justin Tyme]

BBM

Hope4More...I wanted to make sure not to lose your great post. I'm having the same problem as you...multitasking coming out of my ears....:floorlaugh:

I wanted to extend a belated...... WELCOME.....:seeya:

I can tell from your post you put great thought into it. The issue with FCA searching for her new mark in March is where we might differ a bit. I've included a link to a site LG put me onto and find it invaluable when searching for info. Now I'm flying by the seat of my pants this morning so keep in mind I scanned through some things this morning. In March FCA was still involved with RM. Their relationship was from Jan-May 2008. She started with TL late May. If you follow link and see Anthony R interview, it blows the mind. FCA went from JG around Dec. 2007 to RM..Jan-May 2008.
With a side order of Anthony R having sex once in Jan 2008, again in May 2008. FCA telling AR in early May 2008 that her and JG are fighting, shes talking about new guy TL when in fact shes involved with RM, well that relationship has pretty much done. FCA shows up in late May and has sex with AR for the last time.....

WoW................hwow:........................:shush:

This site has become my second home but I must...step away...from computer......:giggle:

Hope you find the link helpful..I won't leave home without it.....:floorlaugh:

jmo...:heartbeat:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/searchable-discovery/

Didn't she also have a problem with a guy she seen at a party? The problem that she was upset over a miscarriage that she had with said guy? Was it Brandon S or someone else? Anyone know what the time frame was on her relationship that she had the miscarriage from? Was it in between the times that she dated the above mentioned young men or was the relationship over lapping the above relationships?

 

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I found the link I was looking for...nothing earth shattering but it does prove that verbally CA did not give FCA permission to access her accounts. CA says this, in her own words by answering FBI questions. CA's actions are a horse of a different color. I love the Wizard of OZ!

CA was allowing FCA to steal from her before Dec. 2007...CA just ignored what was going on until FCA crossed a line...Then it became an issue. See withdrawl by FCA in Dec of 814.00 to pay cell phone bill. Considering FCA patterns, this was about 4 months worth of past due bills. I also saw that each cell phone bill after Dec. 2007...FCA draws the money out of CA's savings to pay her cell phone bill at least up through May 2008. Her average cell bill is 190.00 each month with the exception of May, the highest 220.56...old news I know...cont.

jmo



http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/11/09/the-anthony-encycliepedia-cindy-talks-about-money/


What I see is this...CA testified that she did search chloroform. Once you start looking at the searches the question begs to be answered....We know CA wasn't home when some searches were done. It could be the expert did find the search CA did do and just didn't include this search in the evidence. For all we know CA could have searched chloroform in 2001! My question is, from the searches we are privy to, was one of them done by CA and if so, did CA search for any self defense information. It's very possible that CA and FCA had another physical fight BEFORE June 15th and CA wanted to defend herself against FCA. The reverse is also possible, FCA wanted to win the next round with CA. This theory is more likely to me. I just didn't want to make the mistake of looking at the evidence and assuming it was all from FCA's perspective. I believe there were previous physical fights, CA being larger than FCA always prevailed. FCA could have just been looking for ways to fight better the next time the fisties started to fly...jmo

Not revealing any search found by CA would be totally unethical IMO...it would be hiding exculpatory evidence, would it not? IMHO that didn't happen.
I can't remember, but was their search limited to certain dates?