Clinton David Brink, 43 & Cristen Amanda Brink, 41 found on trail - Devil's Den State Park, AR- 26 July, 2025 #3 *Arrest*

[Inthedetails]

What about All Trails? Run keeper? Or Map My Run? FITBIT?

I checked Map My Run but didn't see any routes in the area where he lives. (I thought there would be one for Devil's Den, but I didn't see any.)

jmopinion

 

[Ghostwheel]

The downside I see is expense.
I think in some schools cameras in the classroom may be exactly what some kids need to deter them from behaving as they do.
Some classrooms are just shy of free for alls with zero teaching happening and less than zero learning taking place.

IMO

What a shame some classrooms are like that. I, personally, don't think constant surveillance is in anyone's best interest. Real people, like Principals and Vice principals, randomly wandering through classrooms I think would keep things in check. Constant surveillance would push more kids to homeschool, imo. I'd have pulled mine at any rate. I don't mind hallway and stairway cameras, stairways are dangerous places. But I suppose it depends on where you are. The bathrooms were the most dangerous places in my school and I sure don't want cameras there.

That these the things being mentioned on media supposedly happened in AMs classes and people complained and nothing was done means no one cared enough to stop him. I think that speaks for itself.

 

[mlhenn]

Do schools have cameras in their classrooms these days?

I’m not sure about OK or TX, but I know cameras are allowed inside classrooms in AR.

Most AR public schools just have them in hallways, the cafeteria, and outside, etc…not very many decide to include them in classrooms

 

[mickey2942]

If I walked into my child's classroom, and this was who greeted me...my next stop would be the Principal's office for a transfer out of that class. I would go "Mama Bear", and it would be a "Karen Take Down Moment".

 

[Sundog]

I have been wondering about the fact that he wore fingerless gloves. Others have said that it was very hot that day. Did he plan to commit a random stabbing murder with a knife and the gloves were for better gripping? Or did he have a habit of wearing something like compression gloves for some physical/medical reason.

 

[Sundog]

I did some research. Some say it hinders the teacher/student relationship. I think more and more people are used to cameras being around us. If they are worried about them being hacked, why even have them in the hallways at all then. What could possibly be seen in the classroom by the hacker that they couldn’t see in the hallway or cafeteria? Im just not understanding the logic when it appears to me it could help more than it hurts.

I wonder if the teachers' unions view the possibiity of recordings in the classroom being used for other purposes, such as evaluations, etc.

 

[nao]

Moo...with respect the guy is up for murder. Not for inappropriate contact with children. Not everyone is pretty to the eye.... it is not a crime....moo

 

[OneLove]

It may be a culture thing, because I understand you crystal clear, but can see that others may not.

In the small town where I lived the mom’s grapevine would let your mom know you had acted up at school before you got home. No way to hide it. I know- that happened to me when I got caught trying cigarettes when I was in 7th grade. Mom knew before I had a chance to create a story to wiggle out of it.

IMO

Fine line sometimes between love and laugh. Laughter and love both for this. ~I moved my kids to a one high-school town before they started school for just this reason.

 

[Sundog]

As to why AM's parents haven't made any media statement:

1) If they have paid any attention to news or social media over the last 3 years, they've seen all the negative attention on Kohberger's parents and sisters even though they did the "right thing" and immediately issued a well worded statement right after he was arrested and again when the plea agreement was made as well as stayed entirely out of the public eye. They made sure to acknowledge the victims', the families', and the friends/community's pain and grief, and did nothing that would detract the focus where it should be---on those groups. And they still got non stop criticism from certain factions for daring to show up at some of their son's court appearances and accusations of not doing anything to help him not become who he did.
2) I don't see why they should "have to." They don't owe the public anything, but they do owe the community and the victim's children and families the ability for those groups to be the sole focus and not detract from it. Obviously, they have been questioned by the police as to any information, and either have already been contacted or will be shortly by their son's public defender.
3) And they still might make a statement...but no one should be expected to say anything when they are still trying to process this.

Agree, they are victims of AM's actions, too. They should be left alone.

 

[mickey2942]

I wonder if the teachers' unions view the possibiity of recordings in the classroom being used for other purposes, such as evaluations, etc.

I have no issues with being recorded, observed, whatever. Have had it done numerous times. If a teacher has a problem with it, that would be the problem.

It is not a "union" issue, unless only one specific teacher was constantly under surveillance. If it is randomized and included all teachers, there is no issue.

To get your National Board Teacher Certification Credential, you have to record hours of yourself teaching, and write reviews/critique for improvement. It is actually a valuable opportunity to receive feedback and improve.

 

[gremlin444]

When I saw that AM (in his intro msg at his first teaching job) said that he had been student teaching during the last 2 years of working on his BA at OSU, I was surprised and went to look at OK's sub requirements.

For state regulations for elementary school....all you need to apply is to be a minimum 18 yo, have a GED or HS transcript, and sub less than 90 days a school year!!!!!! Then you attend a workshop for substitute teachers. Individual schools/districts can add stricter requirements, but that's the bare minimum needed by the state.

The barest minimum of state standards in Illinois for short term subs in any K-12 class is having an associate's degree, and you have to complete a much longer training program given by the school district.

If I lived in OK and an 18 yo with a high school diploma met my 3rd grader at the door one day and said he was the sub for the day, I'd be taking them right back home. And even with IL minimum being having an associates, I know our district requires a bachelor's at a minimum.

 

[Slythefly]

Cameras in classrooms... I am conflicted on it. It's certainly a deterrent for the inappropriate behavior being discussed. And also helps theft prevention/identification, along with factual documentation regarding disciplinary and behavior issues.

However, it's not solving these problems, only deterring them in this specific location. Are there also cameras in the bathrooms, locker rooms, counselors offices, janitor rooms, baseball dugouts, etc?

I also have concerns of a classroom being deemed a safe space to learn while at the same time forcing kids through metal detectors and having four cameras staring at them 7 hours a day. How safe is it really if you are going to be needing all of this? When I see bars over a window on a house, I don't think the place is safe at all... I actually think the opposite.

 

[RedHaus]

Bringing Kahn with us to T3!

 

[TheSamster]

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[bajaflash]

Some of us are extremely un photogenic. But if I ever need to make another online dating profile, I think I can manage better than a pic that says "dont message me back" lol. My selfies are good, but anyone else takes a photo and im like who tf is that? Ugh lol

 

[OneLove]

Bringing Kahn with us to T3!

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Poor Khan looks like he *knows* things he'd rather not...

 

[AngTxGal]

When I saw that AM (in his intro msg at his first teaching job) said that he had been student teaching during the last 2 years of working on his BA at OSU, I was surprised and went to look at OK's sub requirements.

For state regulations for elementary school....all you need to apply is to be a minimum 18 yo, have a GED or HS transcript, and sub less than 90 days a school year!!!!!! Then you attend a workshop for substitute teachers. Individual schools/districts can add stricter requirements, but that's the bare minimum needed by the state.

The barest minimum of state standards in Illinois for short term subs in any K-12 class is having an associate's degree, and you have to complete a much longer training program given by the school district.

If I lived in OK and an 18 yo with a high school diploma met my 3rd grader at the door one day and said he was the sub for the day, I'd be taking them right back home. And even with IL minimum being having an associates, I know our district requires a bachelor's at a minimum.

That right there is eye opening!!
It also means a potential for larger victim pool.

Texas requires at least 60 college credit hours to sub. Doing sub work is a great way to get paid, not much, for experience in the classroom- which is tough to get prior to student teaching- but 18 yrs old?

I’m with you, that low of requirements to be a sub, OK allows people in the classroom that have no business being around children. They are basically saying- have a pulse? come teach our kids!
If AJM did sub for two years in OK, he developed a teaching style that resembles a substitute. Hmm, that speaks volumes!! Subs don’t prepare lessons, and many don’t actually teach, they baby sit kids.

IMO

 

[Hexe]

It CAN be. But there are many teachers that still give out candy which everyone is making this out to be such a negative thing. And no teachers treats all students the same. It’s human nature. Maybe the girls treated him differently and knew how to manipulate him to get more candy.

couldn't be difficult, considering he allegedly ignored boys completely. Having girls sit on his lap, having one-on-one lunches with them, telling them he regrets he cannot date/marry them AND giving them candy on top of that is a textbook creep behaviour.

 

[Hexe]

I checked Map My Run but didn't see any routes in the area where he lives. (I thought there would be one for Devil's Den, but I didn't see any.)

jmopinion

I'd be interested in finding out if there were any flashing incidents or sexual assaults on the trails this dude frequented. I mean the clothing he wore in Devil's Den look less like running outfit and more like something a sex offender would do. Dark clothes to make stains less visible, long sleeves and trousers for protection against scratches and the face cover ready on his neck...

 

[Ladyotm]

DBM