CO - 3 killed in shootout near/at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, 27 Nov 2015 *Arrest*

[margarita25]

Maybe this is not a political motive, but rather a more personal motive. Maybe he's been rejected by women, hates women, maybe his gf didn't want his offspring, who knows...or as mentioned, just a nut job and used that as an excuse/outlet or whatever...he did choose that clinic though, and for that I'm curious.

(Another FTR, there have been some shootings on buildings and medical facilities with an automatic weapon within our "hot zone". We have pictures of the gunfire damage in the NoCo threads.)

 

[CARIIS]

Lmao. Thanks for agreeing. But in the future. I'm a dad and not a Mrs. Lol.

Much oblige. And Hugs.

I apolgize MR Dexter-- smiling !! It is funny!

 

[CARIIS]

Maybe this is not a political motive, but rather a more personal motive. Maybe he's been rejected by women, hates women, maybe his gf didn't want his offspring, who knows...or as mentioned, just a nut job and used that as an excuse/outlet or whatever...he did choose that clinic though, and for that I'm curious.

(Another FTR, there have been some shootings on buildings and medical facilities with an automatic weapon within our "hot zone". We have pictures of the gunfire damage in the NoCo threads.)

I think he just "ended up there! In a hunters cap, trenchcoat, a long rifle, some BBQ "fire", this aint no slick mass mrderer -- mentally ill , having a bad day - we gotta remeber he did not shoot anyone related to wanting or deleivering an abortion, not even sure he knew where he ended up!

would lve to know day and time he picked up the tanks I vote three hours before !!

 

[margarita25]

Not sure who I am responding to! Last I heard from local tv yesterday (local being them ) was propane (plural) with "wires" ?? coming out of them

just silly open it up light a match and poof....

"wires" (delusinial I am making a bomb like the paris terrorists !?)

disorganized thinking in my mind ............

I definitely understand the possibity of being "set off", motivated or inspired by the Paris attacks, but I think maybe this has been festering for a long time, maybe thinking about doing something like this for a while, maybe even done some other things we dont know about yet. Or not. Jmo.

 

[KristinSchmistin]

Maybe this is not a political motive, but rather a more personal motive. Maybe he's been rejected by women, hates women, maybe his gf didn't want his offspring, who knows...or as mentioned, just a nut job and used that as an excuse/outlet or whatever...he did choose that clinic though, and for that I'm curious.

(Another FTR, there have been some shootings on buildings and medical facilities with an automatic weapon. We have pictures of the gunfire in the NoCo threads.)

I tend to wonder this also. Based on his history with his ex wife and at least one other woman, we know he's at the very least someone hates women, mysogynist, and also (insert mass shooter profile here).

Maybe his final escalation was simply in this general shopping area, and "oh look planned parenthood, remember I hate women, and also 'no more baby parts'"?

He seems to have thrown that out there - like a convenient "yeah this is why I'm mad." When in reality he just wanted to destroy anyone and anything in the vicinity (maybe including himself)?




Sent from my not so humble opinion.

 

[margarita25]

Any military history on him that we know of?

 

[gxm]

Good grief, he had to shoot his way in… of course he knew where he was! He just hadn't realized that most PP facilities are locked and only people with appointments are buzzed in.

 

[AmyPond]

No, that is my understanding from yesterday -- no pts or staff were hurt it was from him firing all over the place at the cops and not being a good shot --- that may change with more details but that is what is being reported as of now ......links yesterday

I am wondering if the two civilians who died were people in the parking lot or something maybe. I'm sure we'll find out eventually.

It's my understanding that the officer who was killed was inside the building, correct?

We must look at the whole event.He did not (could not) shoot anyone point blank. In the brain. He wallowed around in there for hours, confused. IMO it looked (think james bond) cool the Paris guys getting out of thier car and blasting away .

The fact that he gacve up said You Win, is a childish end to a horrible behavior.

And IMO this will end up legally , in a mental deal with the courts, he is nothing like the Paris dudes, he is sick , watched IMO, a lot of Paris, delusinal, tried to replicate them , and when he got himslef into the middle of it got lost - none of the vistums were staff or pts - that IMO tells us much

I keep seeing a lot of people mentioning him possibly being motivated by the Paris attacks. Why are people thinking this exactly? I thought this guy lived off the grid so I doubt he was watching tons of t.v. or anything if that's the case.

 

[borndem]

LE in Black Mountain, NC, are searching the previous home of the alleged PP Clinic shooter. They are giving no info at this time. (I just heard this on our local 11:00pm EST TV news.) As soon as it goes online, I will post.

 

[borndem]

This article is local to Colorado, so it doesn't include details of my previous post, but I thought I would post it anyway.

Official says gunman made 'no more baby parts' comment

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — The man who police say staged a deadly shooting attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic that offers abortion services said "no more baby parts" after his arrest, a law enforcement official said Saturday.

Read more at http://www.wral.com/gunman-in-custo...renthood-clinic/15140666/#lAbCo6gzWsMjmt1c.99

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ETA: Another article -- I'm still waiting for the other article to the online area of WRAL.

Q&A: What's known about Planned Parenthood shooting suspect

BLACK MOUNTAIN, N.C. — Robert Lewis Dear, the suspect in the deadly Planned Parenthood attack in Colorado Springs, frightened neighbors, had several run-ins with police and lived in different remote cabins and trailers in North and South Carolina and Colorado.

Read more at http://www.wral.com/what-s-known-ab...nthood-shooting/15141519/#rrJTWLFLye3guBjZ.99

 

[CARIIS]

I am wondering if the two civilians who died were people in the parking lot or something maybe. I'm sure we'll find out eventually.

It's my understanding that the officer who was killed was inside the building, correct?



I keep seeing a lot of people mentioning him possibly being motivated by the Paris attacks. Why are people thinking this exactly? I thought this guy lived off the grid so I doubt he was watching tons of t.v. or anything if that's the case.

Yeh that is my understanding LE in building dead and parking lot civilian dead


I think "movivated" is not the word I am sensing. I am getting more delusinial like I am gonna come blasting out of the car like they did, I am gong to (sucicde vests) make things that make booms etc

But I am coming from the place where he was not oreiented to relaity at all !

but that is just mo

 

[gxm]

"The attack on the clinic, allegedly by Robert Lewis Dear Jr., was “definitely politically motivated,’’ said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is still underway."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-main_planned-parenthood-315pm:homepage/story

 

[bluesneakers]

"The attack on the clinic, allegedly by Robert Lewis Dear Jr., was “definitely politically motivated,’’ said the official, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is still underway."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-main_planned-parenthood-315pm:homepage/story

Once there, everyone scattered into rooms that also had locks and, following their training, turned their phones to silent to avoid drawing attention to themselves. Most of the people in the clinic waited out the five-hour ordeal in these locked rooms, Cowart said.

Staff workers undergo regular training and drills for emergencies, such as an armed attack. But other than that, she said, there were no dedicated “safe rooms” or special security measures in place.

I think the fast acting staff saved some lives. Without the plans and procedures who knows how many people he would have killed.

 

[margarita25]

One thing I wanted to mention is that, while listening downstairs, I was afraid he was baiting LE in and was going to blow everyone up, all the responders. I was also afraid maybe he had visited the site before or had schematics and was going to covertly escape somehow. I'm so glad this didn't happen.

 

[margarita25]

So, quick poll, do you guys think this guy has ever killed another human before? Just wondering...

 

[margarita25]

Woah, Peeping Tom, ever through a scope I wonder...

Has the use of a scope been confirmed yet? Tia.

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[Treelights]

https://www.facebook.com/KRDONewsChannel13/posts/1074883199229027

There is an article and video attached to this KRDO facebook link, of the search at the perp's property.

 

[bluesneakers]

https://www.facebook.com/KRDONewsChannel13/posts/1074883199229027

There is an article and video attached to this KRDO facebook link, of the search at the perp's property.

Don't read the comments. Yikes.

 

[Treelights]

I don't know where you are talking about, but earlier this week on our hike with the dogs I was wearing a T-shirt
and jeans, no jacket! The snow hasn't been here that long in Colorado Springs this week.
The snow will melt too, and we will have days coming up in the 40's and 50's.
Look at the future forecast, for instance on Dec. 4th, the high will be 56.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/colorado-springs-co/80903/daily-weather-forecast/327351?day=6
Dec 1st mostly sunny, high of 40. There are lots of sunny days in the fall and winter in Colorado Springs.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/colorado-springs-co/80903/daily-weather-forecast/327351

IMOO.

 

[margarita25]

Don't read the comments. Yikes.

Well you know that's exactly what I'm going to do now lol. I guess I can't say afterwards that I wasn't warned...