CO - 3 killed in shootout near/at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, 27 Nov 2015 *Arrest*

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 4m4 minutes ago
#PPShooting - Dec 9th 1:30PM is set for next hearing.

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago
The State has not decided yet whether to pursue the death penalty against

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In a mood- for 1.4 trillions $$ I want them to distinigush between a 12 year old tweeting I am gonna blow up whqtever --

with that amount of $ you should be able to deal --distiguish between a 12 year old and Paris guys

IMO
 
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I am EST arewnt we suppossed to have a court hearing than wont go further until they order him to psyc eval ,, it is 445 here I thought it was gonna be 130 over thwere ?

is this gonna be a total hidden thing?
 
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Scratch the surface of any of these tragedies we follow, and you find troubled minds - along with drugs, guns, weed and usually a Walmart. I dispair of trying to identify which are responsible, and which are just part of the landscape, much less what to do about them. But I think that you might be on to something with your chocolate cookies approach. I bet that a doses of human kindness and attention early on would have prevented some of the horrors we are seeing.

Re BBM

Agree with the whole post and the bolded part reminded me of something that fits right in about how hard it is to identify some disturbed people who could be dangerous from those that are harmless.

I spent some years in NYC and if anyone has ever been there you know it really is quite a fascinating city. Some blocks get their own little subculture to them and you get to know people living in your block and even some close surrounding blocks sometimes. One summer I had a relative visit that had never been to NYC and I volunteered to help show her around.

One morning we took a walk down the street to some nice stores that were close by. As we approached the corner, I made a terrible mistake. I saw him standing there and didn't think twice to warn my friend because I was so used to him. I had become accustomed to "Crazy Joe" and how he would scream and cuss at the top of his lungs at whoever passed near him.

Well, we got within about 20 feet of him and "Crazy Joe" let loose with one of his tirades directed at us. My friend panicked and ran back towards my apartment. I had to chase her down, calm her down, and convince her that "Crazy Joe" was harmless and we could walk past him on the other side of the street and we just have to ignore him.

"Crazy Joe" was a fixture on that corner for many years. He was totally harmless and the rumors were that he had received medical help many times. He enjoyed staying on the corner and occasionally berating people as they walked passed. It was what he did. He enjoyed it and for the most part our small community left him alone as we all got to know him.

The mistake I made was forgetting that an outsider would not recognize that there was no danger whatsoever.

This real life example shows how it can be difficult to recognize whether a mentally disturbed person is either harmful or totally harmless.
 
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Pamela Brown to Wolf on CNN - He brought in handguns and rifles in a duffle bag.
 
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Cathy ‏@courtchatter 4m4 minutes ago
#PPShooting - Dec 9th 1:30PM is set for next hearing.

Cathy ‏@courtchatter 2m2 minutes ago
The State has not decided yet whether to pursue the death penalty against

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The prison garb that Dear is wearing, the media is describing as a "padded vest". They haven't said Dear is on suicide watch, but the garment indicates he is, IMO. Colloquially that garment is referred to by corrections officers as a "taco suit", and it's more like a gown or dress than a vest. It's a suicide prevention garment manufactured for jails and prisons. Lovely, isn't it?! Inmates cannot wear any underwear or other garments with it. Here is more information, including info on mats and blankets issued when someone is on suicide watch:

http://www.preventsuicide.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suicide_smock

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/12/whats_an_antisuicide_smock.html
 
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The prison garb that Dear is wearing, the media is describing as a "padded vest". They haven't said Dear is on suicide watch, but the garment indicates he is, IMO. Colloquially that garment is referred to by corrections officers as a "taco suit", and it's more like a gown or dress than a vest. It's a suicide prevention garment manufactured for jails and prisons. Lovely, isn't it?! Inmates cannot wear any underwear or other garments with it. Here is more information, including info on mats and blankets issued when someone is on suicide watch:

http://www.preventsuicide.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suicide_smock

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/12/whats_an_antisuicide_smock.html
It's also called a turtle suit. I've seen some thinking it's a bullet proof vest. Not at all.
 
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The prison garb that Dear is wearing, the media is describing as a "padded vest". They haven't said Dear is on suicide watch, but the garment indicates he is, IMO. Colloquially that garment is referred to by corrections officers as a "taco suit", and it's more like a gown or dress than a vest. It's a suicide prevention garment manufactured for jails and prisons. Lovely, isn't it?! Inmates cannot wear any underwear or other garments with it. Here is more information, including info on mats and blankets issued when someone is on suicide watch:

http://www.preventsuicide.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suicide_smock

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/12/whats_an_antisuicide_smock.html

It was not until I read your explaination I thought go thye let them wear anything - got to remember he was trech cost and some hat !
 
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BBM. Yeah, there's a lot that a little love and kindness will do for the human spirit. I think as a whole, as one human race on this earth here, we all need to take a step back and if nothing else (and aside from any other solution or remedy to this horrible epidemic of mass shootings, violence, terror) just be a little more kind, understanding, supportive, vigilant, aware of our fellow humans. We need to be more tuned in to each other. I think this is where we really start to see the truth in "what's good for one is good for everyone" - it IS good for everyone if everyone is happy and well adjusted. We can no longer be so self-centered. We all need to be better friends to each other, in the big picture.

There is no such thing as too much kindness, IMO.

Unless you're running from zombies.

Everyone is too busy texting pictures of french toast PS I do not have a cell phone - never did or will I think they are hideous!
 
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Scratch the surface of any of these tragedies we follow, and you find troubled minds - along with drugs, guns, weed and usually a Walmart. I dispair of trying to identify which are responsible, and which are just part of the landscape, much less what to do about them. But I think that you might be on to something with your chocolate cookies approach. I bet that a doses of human kindness and attention early on would have prevented some of the horrors we are seeing.

usually a Walmart. Funny!
 
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‏@postandcourier
BREAKING: Accused #PlannedParenthood shooter charged with rape in #NorthCharleston in 1992. http://bit.ly/21pKCfS

[video=twitter;671464112606601216]https://twitter.com/postandcourier/status/671464112606601216[/video]
 
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‏@postandcourier
BREAKING: Accused #PlannedParenthood shooter charged with rape in #NorthCharleston in 1992. http://bit.ly/21pKCfS

[video=twitter;671464112606601216]https://twitter.com/postandcourier/status/671464112606601216[/video]

Thanx for sharing, octobermoon..
Who couldn't see this coming? Peeping Tom, rage, abusive to animals, abusive to women, antisocial personality, sudden unexplained move to CO leaving everything behind, etc.. Imo, there will be much more revealed about Dear's past in the days to come. The writing is on the wall and the devil in the details..

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On Nov. 29, 1992, Dear showed up to the woman&#8217;s house while she attempted to take out the trash, according to the police report.

&#8220;The suspect then allegedly put a knife to the victim&#8217;s neck and forced her back inside her residence,&#8221; the report states. &#8220;The suspect then allegedly forced the victim down into the couch, struck her in the mouth with his fist, and then sexually assaulted her.&#8221;

The woman reported to police that the sexual assault continued on the floor near a coffee table before Dear dragged her to a bedroom and continued the assault on a bed.
 

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