CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #118

[Smelly Squirrel]

All the BAM prescribed to government entities was accounted for. So it doesn't matter if GD worked for them, unless they want to argue he stole the BAM from BM. But then BM never said any of his was missing and I'd guess GD has a better alibi than BM does anyway. The defense can't just throw a name out there unless they have real evidence against them.

You can't spell BAM without BM!

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Can you please explain more about how having an opinion is the same as second-guessing a jury?

The legal aspects of some cases interest me. I like to watch/hear/learn how each side approaches a trial and how both sides present their cases and cross examine. Some cases are straight forward with plenty of forensic evidence. I don't find those cases as interesting as cases that are challenging for both sides. And I never guess ahead of a jury what the outcome will be. When this case is done and the jury is out - I'll give you a guess what I think. I also like books where you can't guess the outcome in the second chapter or third chapter

 

[Tragg]

was GD on any witness list or did we not get that far?

The prosecution provided a lengthy list with its initial discovery. Both sides updated their lists but I don't think a final list was due at the time the case was dismissed. But GD was on the witness list for both sides IIRC. Sorry I don't have a copy.

In addition to witnesses, the defense is required to disclose the nature of the defense other than alibi. GD's name never came up in that context. The media would have been all over him it it had. Strange that we first hear of him as a possible SODDI in 2024, in a Danish language podcast. HMMMM.

 

[MassGuy]

On page 19 of the arrest affidavit, Barry said something interesting. It’s not a direct quote, but if he did use the word “chemicals,” he was telling on himself.

It’s just not a word I’d expect him to use. Of course, she did have “chemicals” in her system.

BAM.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases%20of%20interest/21CR78/21cr78%20Morphew%20Redacted%20Affidavit.pdf

 

[TIGER0822]

Smell test.

Let's say it happened, the exchange between S and G. Why on earth would G tell a daughter that, and in confidence? Just to saddle her with it? While her mom is missing? How does sharing such an exchange benefit the daughter? He just wanted to unburden himself? Thought she'd make a suitable confidante?

It rings hollow.

JMO

Great Question. Going to give that some thought.

 

[TIGER0822]

IMO he will try to blame someone else for administering the BAM to Suzanne. Someone stole it from him, someone came in from another state with it, someone found it in the house or even that Suzanne took it herself. Anyone will be to blame but him. JMO

BAM is a combination of three drugs in a specific ratio. From my online research (LE might come knocking at my door!) it appears possible to make this combo at home. That may be their defense. IMO

 

[TIGER0822]

What direction?

Without a SODDI, what does that leave?

Self-defense? -- ludicrous

Alibi? -- his alibi for Sunday isn't credible -- big job of in Denver, my guys (no permit, no equipment and he spent the day in his hotel room, then after getting The Call, he takes the time to haul all the wrong tools into the hotel. As one does.) But the real kicker -- he has no alibi for the time frame when Suzanne goes uncharacteristically radio silent. And worse -- for him -- (and her) -- he admits he was alone with her that whole time.

Accident? -- with a self-loaded syringe/dart? With the relationship and text history? Really unfortunate timing for an accident, what with Suzanne wanting a divorce. Most dangerous time for a woman....

And if they go lowest of the low, that Suzanne somehow did this to herself, well, that's a math problem without numbers. It doesn't compute.

I'm not seeing a workable defense.

Barry did such a bang up job with bad staging, he left no room for other explanations.

JMO

I see a workable defense. It appears BAM can be fompounded at home - from three different chemicals, obtained in another state . They are Determined to see one suspect only . SM had multiple affairs. DNA on glove box. I jhope that the prosecutor is great.

 

[TIGER0822]

Here is a paragraph from the web page of the Colorado Public Defender's office:

"The Public Defender may find that it has a conflict of interest in representing you. The most common reason for a conflict happens when you are accused of a crime along with other people and the Public Defender represents one of them. If this happens, the Public Defender can only represent one person who was charged. When this happens, the court will appoint you a lawyer from the Office of Alternate Defense Counsel (ADC). ADC contracts with private lawyers to provide court-appointed counsel.

Even if there is a conflict of interest, you still need to apply for court-appointed counsel through the Public Defender’s office. That office will advise the court of the conflict and the need to appoint an ADC lawyer."

Some have speculated here that Morphew had an accomplice for at least some part of the murder plan. There are other reasons the PD would need to conflict off a case, including what is called "conflict of commitment." But the bolded language above may well fuel speculation.

If there was an accomplice/ unwittingly , I think this will come out on trial, I have one name vaguely in mind, will not say yet. Waiting for a trial to we if I am correct. IMO

 

[Nikynoo]

Smell test.

Let's say it happened, the exchange between S and G. Why on earth would G tell a daughter that, and in confidence? Just to saddle her with it? While her mom is missing? How does sharing such an exchange benefit the daughter? He just wanted to unburden himself? Thought she'd make a suitable confidante?

It rings hollow.

JMO

IF it is true, the only reason I can think of is that GD is a predator and (also) saw MM1 as a target. Moo

 

[Nikynoo]

I see a workable defense. It appears BAM can be fompounded at home - from three different chemicals, obtained in another state . They are Determined to see one suspect only . SM had multiple affairs. DNA on glove box. I jhope that the prosecutor is great.

This is what I’m thinking too. Definitely the first, the second, unless they find evidence of other affairs (and if the defence had two investigators, did they find anything?) they may have to lean heavily on inference. For the third (DNA), I’m leaning towards a no on this unless they throw everything at the jury to try and confuse.
Edited, as doing too many things at once

 

[Charlot123]

I am mad with JL. If some one I love was murdered, and I had a strong suspicion who did it, and with potentially some corroborating evidence - I would be contacting LE immediately. Either directly if I could be guaranteed anonymity , or through an intermediary . JL is a horrible person IMO.

He is a cowardly person. But he didn’t kill Suzanne nor set her up. I think he must have always been afraid of BM, since school. I think SM reached out to him out of hopelessness, “at least this one loved me”. At the same time, the fact that she reached out to someone from HS testifies to her prior fidelity to BM (otherwise there’d be lot of other guys to reach out to, not some shadow memory from HS).

I understand, a huge family, maybe just a regular salary, and Suzanne could not have been helped. Could he have changed the situation if he reached out to PD? Not in the way of Barry being convicted, not at all.

 

[windrower]

I see a workable defense. It appears BAM can be fompounded at home - from three different chemicals, obtained in another state . They are Determined to see one suspect only . SM had multiple affairs. DNA on glove box. I jhope that the prosecutor is great.

BM has been shown to have the BAM that is sold as a mixture, brought to Colorado with them when they moved from Indiana.

I think you are confused about the multiple affairs. Apparently it was BM who had affairs in Indiana, which were touted as one of the reasons for their move to Colorado—they could start afresh and repair their marriage.

At least, according to SUZANNE, as, iirc, she told her best friend.

When nothing changed in their marriage, she did have an affair. Singular. One.

Please go research any of the DNA in this case, especially that in the glovebox. It truly is laughable that anyone is still saying it has any relevance to SUZANNE’s murder.

All in my opinion, as I haven’t taken the time to find the supporting materials.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I see a workable defense. It appears BAM can be fompounded at home - from three different chemicals, obtained in another state . They are Determined to see one suspect only . SM had multiple affairs. DNA on glove box. I jhope that the prosecutor is great.

That is not correct. She had 1 affair with 1 man, as far as has been reported.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

He is a cowardly person. But he didn’t kill Suzanne nor set her up. I think he must have always been afraid of BM, since school. I think SM reached out to him out of hopelessness, “at least this one loved me”. At the same time, the fact that she reached out to someone from HS testifies to her prior fidelity to BM (otherwise there’d be lot of other guys to reach out to, not some shadow memory from HS).

I understand, a huge family, maybe just a regular salary, and Suzanne could not have been helped. Could he have changed the situation if he reached out to PD? Not in the way of Barry being convicted, not at all.

I agree I think he was afraid he'd get the crap beat out of him or worse, that his wife would leave him and that he would have to pay child support for all those kids for many years, and that the people that he works with would find out he's a cheater. Adultery is always fun I would imagine until you get caught.

 

[Nikynoo]

BM has been shown to have the BAM that is sold as a mixture, brought to Colorado with them when they moved from Indiana.

I think you are confused about the multiple affairs. Apparently it was BM who had affairs in Indiana, which were touted as one of the reasons for their move to Colorado—they could start afresh and repair their marriage.

At least, according to SUZANNE, as, iirc, she told her best friend.

When nothing changed in their marriage, she did have an affair. Singular. One.

Please go research any of the DNA in this case, especially that in the glovebox. It truly is laughable that anyone is still saying it has any relevance to SUZANNE’s murder.

All in my opinion, as I haven’t taken the time to find the supporting materials.

With respect, no-one knows whether there were more affairs or not - Suzanne certainly did not tell her best friend about HER affair, it appears that Suzanne was secretive in that respect.

I am sure that I have seen something before about the mixture of the BAM chemicals - it may have been in one of the FBI interviews - I will see if I can find what it is I am thinking about.

 

[Nikynoo]

I agree I think he was afraid he'd get the crap beat out of him or worse, that his wife would leave him and that he would have to pay child support for all those kids for many years, and that the people that he works with would find out he's a cheater. Adultery is always fun I would imagine until you get caught.

IIRC - JLs daughter found out about the affair when she used his phone to order pizza. IMO JL just wanted to have his cake and eat it too.

 

[Nikynoo]

That is not correct. She had 1 affair with 1 man, as far as has been reported.

The poster was alluding to what strategy the defence may utilise going into trial.

 

[Tragg]

I see a workable defense. It appears BAM can be fompounded at home - from three different chemicals, obtained in another state . They are Determined to see one suspect only . SM had multiple affairs. DNA on glove box. I jhope that the prosecutor is great.

You're right. The defense will certainly suggest that investigators had tunnel vision, if they can. They have already said this. But they can't raise an issue at trial without a good faith basis in evidence.

We know of no evidence Suzanne had an affair with anyone other than Libler. In fact, she likely chose to fantasize about him because he lived far away. An affair with a local would likely become the topic of local gossip, and I suspect she wanted to avoid that. Eytan never suggested she had other affairs as a means to suggest LE overlooked a SODDI. Am I missing something?

Also, I doubt that homemade BAM is in common use. Each of the chemical sedatives in BAM is a regulated sedative, legitimately available only by prescription. Do you have a link to information that suggests people make bootleg BAM? For what purpose? Where do they get the drugs?

From the Arrest Affidavit, it looks like the DNA in Suzanne's car will not be a serious problem for the prosecution. It may not even be admitted into evidence.

But good defense lawyers have active imaginations, as we have seen. Hopefully the judge will not be inclined to indulge creativity without evidence.

MOO

 

[Ontario Mom]

The poster was alluding to what strategy the defence may utilise going into trial.

It seems like a rather foolish strategy since there's no evidence of any other affair that has ever been made public.

 

[Tragg]

IF it is true, the only reason I can think of is that GD is a predator and (also) saw MM1 as a target. Moo

If there is any evidence for this, Iris Eytan would have argued that GD was an overlooked and un-investigated alternate suspect. No such evidence was discovered in the original investigation, and Eytan didn't raise it during the Stanley prosecution.

It's OK to speculate here about this kind of thing, but Morphew is going to need more than speculation if GD as the SODDI is going to be part of his defense.