CO - BARRY ARRESTED AGAIN - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *Case dismissed w/o prejudice* *found in 2023* #118

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  • #401
We know where Barry was all Saturday evening--having a romantic steak dinner at home with his wife.
Of course. Two steaks on two plates, then one steak on two plates, then one stake on one plate.

Who doesn’t sit down to dinner and eat off the same plate as their wife?
 
  • #402
Of course. Two steaks on two plates, then one steak on two plates, then one stake on one plate.

Who doesn’t sit down to dinner and eat off the same plate as their wife?
You missed out two steaks on one plate !!
 
  • #403
I always thought it was a little too convenient that the prosecution had suddenly determined where Suzanne's body was, but now with the knowledge that Suzanne's body was moved, I think it's very likely they did have a decent idea. What I'd like to know is what led them to that conclusion.
I agree. LE and others searched the grounds around the house property on Puma Path extensively. I think they were fairly confident that SM’s body was not there.
Since the house was virtually surrounded by mountains, perhaps they thought they could flush him out by saying they had a good idea where the body was but needed to wait for the snow melt in the higher elevations to go and retrieve it. They may have even watched/followed him for a while but were eventually pulled away to concentrate on other cases.
Or maybe one of BM’s workers tipped them off. We know MG told LE that Barry told her he could hide a body where no one would find it. Maybe she asked him, “Like where?”. I always thought she had a crush on him and may have felt put out that he had a new gf. Remember her interviews with the press? “I am not the other woman!” Was that with said with regret as well as anger? MG spent several hours with BM on Saturday, May 9th at the riverside job site, (that was later searched by the FBI for several days), and described him as looking stressed and acting weird. The next morning BM called her and she said he sounded as if he had just had “the worst night of his life”. (He probably did.) The other employee, Jeffrey Puckett, was a loose cannon due to his meth use. He was the one who told LE that Barry’s hotel room in Broomfield smelled strongly of bleach. Pucket died of a meth overdose in March, 2023, just a few months before SM’s body was found.
 
  • #404
Of course. Two steaks on two plates, then one steak on two plates, then one stake on one plate.

Who doesn’t sit down to dinner and eat off the same plate as their wife?
A trial where all those humorous inconsistencies would be fun to watch.
 
  • #405
I agree. LE and others searched the grounds around the house property on Puma Path extensively. I think they were fairly confident that SM’s body was not there.
Since the house was virtually surrounded by mountains, perhaps they thought they could flush him out by saying they had a good idea where the body was but needed to wait for the snow melt in the higher elevations to go and retrieve it. They may have even watched/followed him for a while but were eventually pulled away to concentrate on other cases.
Or maybe one of BM’s workers tipped them off. We know MG told LE that Barry told her he could hide a body where no one would find it. Maybe she asked him, “Like where?”. I always thought she had a crush on him and may have felt put out that he had a new gf. Remember her interviews with the press? “I am not the other woman!” Was that with said with regret as well as anger? MG spent several hours with BM on Saturday, May 9th at the riverside job site, (that was later searched by the FBI for several days), and described him as looking stressed and acting weird. The next morning BM called her and she said he sounded as if he had just had “the worst night of his life”. (He probably did.) The other employee, Jeffrey Puckett, was a loose cannon due to his meth use. He was the one who told LE that Barry’s hotel room in Broomfield smelled strongly of bleach. Pucket died of a meth overdose in March, 2023, just a few months before SM’s body was found.
This is interesting. I never thought MG had a crush on Barry. I thought she rather looked up to him because she assumed he had status as well as money and she had none of that. I do believe she feared him. But I have often thought he may have ran his mouth to her about what he could do and get away with it.
 
  • #406
Of course. Two steaks on two plates, then one steak on two plates, then one stake on one plate.

Who doesn’t sit down to dinner and eat off the same plate as their wife?
It’s like chateaubriand pretty much. Except one of you holds the steak on a fork and you take turns to bite a chunk out of it, so even the one plate is actually optional. Height of romance oh la la!
 
  • #407
It’s like chateaubriand pretty much. Except one of you holds the steak on a fork and you take turns to bite a chunk out of it, so even the one plate is actually optional. Height of romance oh la la!

2 play, 4 play. Remember his boast? Every time.

Right, Barry, right.

Lordy. His internet searches.

JMO
 
  • #408
I remember this as well. My memory isn't good enough to run through the events of Friday night, but I believe Suzanne's phone texted Barry on Saturday, something about getting pool chemicals for the hot tub?

It's possible that Barry sent the text himself. He could always excuse himself by saying her phone was at hand and he needed to remind himself to go to the pool store. At any rate, what I remember is that people saw Barry downtown on Saturday, near the pool store area.

And now I'm forgetting when the pizza restaurant visit was and whether we all decided that it was actually SD at the pizza place? If someone remembers the pizza event, please clue me in!
I thought Suzanne (or someone) texted one of the girls a picture of BM at the pizza place on Friday.
If Barry stopped by after closing hours, perhaps knocking and asking for an after hours sale, that doesn't surprise me.

I just checked the mention of the pool chemicals in one of Barry's FBI interviews (court document) and Barry says that he and Suzanne talked by text on Saturday afternoon, wherein she mentioned she wanted to go hiking with him, and would he get pool chemicals.

Hmmm. I wonder where Barry was when those texts were made. Was he trying to establish that their relationship was normal and cozy? And an alibi for the pool chemicals?
Very possible I think.
Do we know where Barry was all evening on that Saturday? And what was Suzanne up to, at that time? She interacted with her friend online sometime that day, but I can't remember if she communicated with anyone other than J. on Sunday.
BM was busy according to his truck activity and his phone being off/on Saturday and into the early hours of Sunday. Suzanne last texted with JL around 2 pm ish (that photo of her with the towel around her was the last proof of life according to the State).

Suzanne had talked to SO her best friend earlier about the wedding (Friday night or Saturday morning) but didn't answer a couple of texts later on which SO found completely out of character for Suzanne. She didn't speak to anyone on Sunday, not even her daughters who tried to call and wish her a Happy Mothers Day.

Sunday BM said he left a lightly snoring Suzanne in bed as he left for his fake wall repair job to make his 5 stop trash disposal on his way to the hotel.

There's no doubt in my mind he killed Suzanne on Saturday afternoon when all those erratic phone pings showed him moving through the house. He wasn't chasing chipmunks, I believe he was chasing Suzanne. :(

JMO
 
  • #409
Does anyone else think BM may have had Suzanne's remains buried under a pile of rock in one of the cold creeks? He could have easily used his dearly beloved Bobcat to dig a small place out and pack it down. He was seen by that Podcaster sneaking out of the area of one all wet, maybe he was checking on it? Something about that day and how he acted (secretly recorded thank goodness) really nags at me. I believe the Podcaster is on the State's Witness List.

Could he have place Suzanne there in haste and then moved her again somewhere more secure at some point before finally moving her to Moffit?

What an emotionless, skin suit wearing little, insecure man. It was all about his appearance to others, not the reality or concern of what was going on his own home. He didn't love Suzanne or even his daughters IMO. They were merely more trophies for him to display to boost his own ego. 🤬

How's your cage working out for you BM? :)

JMO
 
  • #410
Does anyone else think BM may have had Suzanne's remains buried under a pile of rock in one of the cold creeks? He could have easily used his dearly beloved Bobcat to dig a small place out and pack it down. He was seen by that Podcaster sneaking out of the area of one all wet, maybe he was checking on it? Something about that day and how he acted (secretly recorded thank goodness) really nags at me. I believe the Podcaster is on the State's Witness List.

Could he have place Suzanne there in haste and then moved her again somewhere more secure at some point before finally moving her to Moffit?

What an emotionless, skin suit wearing little, insecure man. It was all about his appearance to others, not the reality or concern of what was going on his own home. He didn't love Suzanne or even his daughters IMO. They were merely more trophies for him to display to boost his own ego. 🤬

How's your cage working out for you BM? :)

JMO

I am almost certain he barried her in an area that was exposed to water. Movement. Accounting for some of her remains being washed away. Where that location was? Obviously a spot with warm enough weather for ice melt and decomp.

I hope LE has since found it.

(I think he was looking for her phone, unsure whether LE has found it -- they only referred to an 'item' as I recall. I think he wanted her broken, waterlogged phone found -- to support 'she got herself in the water' -- I guess after the mountain lion cartwheeled her bike, maybe in a life and death match with the bushy haired abductor.)

JMO
 
  • #411
Does anyone else think BM may have had Suzanne's remains buried under a pile of rock in one of the cold creeks? He could have easily used his dearly beloved Bobcat to dig a small place out and pack it down. He was seen by that Podcaster sneaking out of the area of one all wet, maybe he was checking on it? Something about that day and how he acted (secretly recorded thank goodness) really nags at me. I believe the Podcaster is on the State's Witness List.

Could he have place Suzanne there in haste and then moved her again somewhere more secure at some point before finally moving her to Moffit?

What an emotionless, skin suit wearing little, insecure man. It was all about his appearance to others, not the reality or concern of what was going on his own home. He didn't love Suzanne or even his daughters IMO. They were merely more trophies for him to display to boost his own ego. 🤬

How's your cage working out for you BM? :)

JMO
I am almost certain he barried her in an area that was exposed to water. Movement. Accounting for some of her remains being washed away. Where that location was? Obviously a spot with warm enough weather for ice melt and decomp.

I hope LE has since found it.

(I think he was looking for her phone, unsure whether LE has found it -- they only referred to an 'item' as I recall. I think he wanted her broken, waterlogged phone found -- to support 'she got herself in the water' -- I guess after the mountain lion cartwheeled her bike, maybe in a life and death match with the bushy haired abductor.)

JMO
Two good theories here. I’ve always wondered about that interaction with the podcaster. In the spring, those creeks are running pretty high and fast due to the snow melt. I think it would be tough to dig a hole with the bobcat without it refilling almost immediately and then trying to get a body into it. He would then have to deal with the bobcat tracks in the soft stream bed edges and surrounding area. I did originally think he might have tried it over at the construction site where he was putting in a concrete slab and “beach” area. Heavy equipment tracks wouldn’t be unusual on a construction site. However, that site was thoroughly searched by the FBI, but they didn’t come up with anything conclusive.
My thoughts on what Barry was doing on the day he met the podcaster were that he hid Suzanne’s wedding rings in the creek in a waterproof box under some rocks so he could retrieve them later. As far as I know, they have not been found. He may have since learned that quality diamonds are marked and traceable which means he could only sell it on the blackmarket at a well under-value price.
As far as the cellphone, I’ve wondered if he dumped it in the trash at the Poncha Market where he was later seen digging through the contents.
Unfortunately, I think Barry will deny, deny, deny to the end of his days and we’ll never get answers to some of these questions that continue to niggle at us five years later.
 
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Two good theories here. I’ve always wondered about that interaction with the podcaster. In the spring, those creeks are running pretty high and fast due to the snow melt. I think it would be tough to dig a hole with the bobcat without it refilling almost immediately and then trying to get a body into it. He would then have to deal with the bobcat tracks in the soft stream bed edges and surrounding area. I did originally think he might have tried it over at the construction site where he was putting in a concrete slab and “beach” area. Heavy equipment tracks wouldn’t be unusual on a construction site. However, that site was thoroughly searched by the FBI, but they didn’t come up with anything conclusive.
My thoughts on what Barry was doing on the day he met the podcaster were that he hid Suzanne’s wedding rings in the creek in a waterproof box under some rocks so he could retrieve them later. As far as I know, they have not been found. He may have since learned that quality diamonds are marked and traceable which means he could only sell it on the blackmarket at a well under-value price.
As far as the cellphone, I’ve wondered if he dumped it in the trash at the Poncha Market where he was later seen digging through the contents.
Unfortunately, I think Barry will deny, deny, deny to the end of his days and we’ll never get answers to some of these questions that continue to niggle at us five years later.

If these were GIA-evaluated diamonds, GIA often lazers the number on the side. In short, they can still theoretically be traced.
 
  • #414
The daughters returned home later, I think.
It has been a long time. But they returned Sunday night. Don’t know if they saw their dad but why wouldn’t they? he wasn’t under arrest. Families bind together during a time as that.
 
  • #415
If these were GIA-evaluated diamonds, GIA often lazers the number on the side. In short, they can still theoretically be traced.
Exactly my point. There have been lots of discussions on various forums about the missing diamond including the fact that some can be traced. As much as BM needed the cash for his high priced attorneys, he didn’t want to take the risk of trying to pawn or sell it and have it traced back to him.
 
  • #416
It has been a long time. But they returned Sunday night. Don’t know if they saw their dad but why wouldn’t they? he wasn’t under arrest. Families bind together during a time as that.

I don't believe the daughters returned to Maysville until Monday, May 11.

We know SM was reported missing on Sunday, May 10 at 5:38 pm, police encountered Miles H. coming out of the Morphew garage after 7 pm (explained the daughters were out of town), and BM didn't arrive on sight-- where the bike was located-- until after 9 pm.

 
  • #417
I don't believe the daughters returned to Maysville until Monday, May 11.

We know SM was reported missing on Sunday, May 10 at 5:38 pm, police encountered Miles H. coming out of the Morphew garage after 7 pm (explained the daughters were out of town), and BM didn't arrive on sight-- where the bike was located-- until after 9 pm.

Thanks Seattle. I thought sure that the girls were at the house Sunday night when MM2‘s boyfriend and his dad were there. I cannot count on my memory anymore. Glad all of you are here.
 
  • #418
Exactly my point. There have been lots of discussions on various forums about the missing diamond including the fact that some can be traced. As much as BM needed the cash for his high priced attorneys, he didn’t want to take the risk of trying to pawn or sell it and have it traced back to him.
The diamonds wouldn’t have gotten him much money. If he tried to pawn it or sell it to a jeweler he would have gotten maybe 1/5 of what he originally paid. It’s the gold in the ring that has any value.
 
  • #419
Exactly my point. There have been lots of discussions on various forums about the missing diamond including the fact that some can be traced. As much as BM needed the cash for his high priced attorneys, he didn’t want to take the risk of trying to pawn or sell it and have it traced back to him.
Maybe and no one knows if it was lab grown or natural which makes a big difference in value. Both are diamonds but lab grown are less expensive. Not sure if there are jewelry markings on lab grown stones.
 
  • #420
Maybe and no one knows if it was lab grown or natural which makes a big difference in value. Both are diamonds but lab grown are less expensive. Not sure if there are jewelry markings on lab grown stones.
BBM
no one knows -
End of story

That's where we always end up everytime the "What about the Ring?" chat comes up.

AFAIK - there has never been any mention in the MSM / court docs or in interviews etc
of where the "diamond" ring is
The actual value of the ring has never been established ( real diamond /lab diamond/ zirconia/
tin foil) We just don't know.

We do have clues though if we look at how the Morphew's lived and what Barry's "values" were.

We have an idea from the investigation that Barry took what I am assuming was Suzannes wedding ring and had it melted down for money. Did he take the" diamond" then too ?

"While Suzanne's phone has not been found, investigators were able to recover documents from her iCloud account. One of those documents was a list Suzanne made on May 8, entitled "grievances." It included notes like "wedding ring," which Barry allegedly took and melted at some point."

BM wanted the appearance of wealth but was not wealthy. They moved to Colorado in part to get in state tuition for MM1. They bought a nice house and had Range Rovers. Period. There really were no other trappings of affluence. A Mexican vacation at an all inclusive once a year. No counrty clubs /no golf/no skiing/ etc etc.

Like most of us everyday folk they were TJMaxx, Marshalls, Kohls people. No Gucci or Louis Vuitton. No Neiman or Saks. (That's Iris)
BM = All hat no cattle.

I lean towards the ring being FAKE, just like most things about BM. I imagine the ring was a peace offering at one time from Barry to Suzanne for his bad behavior.

Even if real, the street value is not going to make a dent in what he needs for cash for a defense. I doubt it would be worth more than 5k. And 5k is not going to move the needle for Barry Lee.

I don't know that we will ever know, absent finding an appraisal attached to an insurance rider or the intial bill of sale. . Would Suzanne have questioned the ring being real? Would BM have told her if it was not real diamond.

We just don't know.

JMO
 
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