CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

[LotusPawprint]

If that is what he was referring to, then it would mean they have a POI in mind. I hope they do.

That's what I was thinking too, again. lol. lease:

 

[mck16]

If that is what he was referring to, then it would mean they have a POI in mind. I hope they do.

It would be a miracle to solve two cases in a week. jmo

 

[cluciano63]

Seems to be way too much confusion about the sequence of events, in what should be really, very simple. What time he got to Dad's, what time he went to sleep, what time did Dad last see him. Did Dad peek in at him in the morning, or just make noise? Was he asleep in bed in the morning or already gone? Was phone not working after 8pm or just not used after 8pm? Why so much confusion? Did Dylan go into his room and not reappear again that evening? Did Dad and Dylan have a fight? What the heck?

 

[momrids6]

Here, sneeze into this envelope and send it to me. I could use a break from my snarky teens and my self-absorbed husband's expectations. The kids loved me back when they were little. Now my 16 year tells me she doesn't think of me as her mother, I'm just another person who happens to live in the same house. (sigh...) Hubby just tells me to stop making her mad. Yup, that's it. I'm not parenting, I'm just making my teenager mad.

I'll be watching my mailbox and preparing to inhale!:seeya:

((hugs)) TGI... been through it and still going through it due to the ages of my kids... some days I really wonder if I live in another reality- or they do.

 

[jjenny]

Dad claims he last saw Dylan at 7:30 am on Monday. That was reported.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Seems to be way too much confusion about the sequence of events, in what should be really, very simple. What time he got to Dad's, what time he went to sleep, what time did Dad last see him. Did Dad peek in at him in the morning, or just make noise? Was he asleep in bed in the morning or already gone? Was phone not working after 8pm or just not used after 8pm? Why so much confusion? Did Dylan go into his room and not reappear again that evening? Did Dad and Dylan have a fight? What the heck?

bbm - THIS is the question. WTHeck?!?!?

Are WE confused?

Is the media confused?

Is LE confused?

Who's lying?

Where is the simple story going so wrong?

Someone knows the truth, who is it?

Who took Dylan, who has Dylan, who hurt Dylan, where is Dylan?????

 

[deca]

Lotuspawprint (if I am getting that right) had what I think was a really important point in thread #2 towards the end.

If I may summarize: Could Dylan have been talking to someone on the plane? He could have given his name, his dad's name or even his street to a new "friend" on the plane. How many of us have gotten into conversations on the plane and revealed a little too much info?

I am not sure what the odds are on this happening, but I figure it couldn't hurt to bring this forward since most of us tend to be focusing in on a non-stranger abduction.

 

[mck16]

Seems to be way too much confusion about the sequence of events, in what should be really, very simple. What time he got to Dad's, what time he went to sleep, what time did Dad last see him. Did Dad peek in at him in the morning, or just make noise? Was he asleep in bed in the morning or already gone? Was phone not working after 8pm or just not used after 8pm? Why so much confusion? Did Dylan go into his room and not reappear again that evening? Did Dad and Dylan have a fight? What the heck?

From the picture I saw of MR's house, it looked like a log home to me. Generally these are open with minimal rooms. I am seeing DR sleeping on the couch in the great room. I think I read that MR got up and made noise around the house and DR did not wake up. So he left to go and do his errands. jmo

 

[OtherEyes]

I don't know what that means. I usually only see that in terms of future court cases. But I do not know how that would make sense here.

Or maybe he just meant for everyone to still call in no matter how small the tidbit. Kinda like in the scanner room when we hear bits and pieces of things that don't really make a lot of sense at the time but later it comes together and you see how something unfolds, IYKWIM? (Actually I'm not even sure if I know what I mean anymore! LOL)

 

[SmoothOperator]

**my post brought over from previous thread WITH ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THE BOTTOM**

All snipped quotes below are from:
www.durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20121124/NEWS01/121129756&template=mobileart

The boy was first reported missing Monday, after arriving at his father’s home in Vallecito from his mother’s home in Colorado Springs.

Bender said the search is “looking at all possibilities ... from foul play to a runaway, and everything in between.”

Dylan was in Vallecito for a court-ordered Thanksgiving visit with his father, Mark Redwine, Bender said. Mark Redwine and Dylan’s mother, Elaine Redwine, divorced in 2007.

R*** N***, 13, a friend of Dylan&#8217;s said in a phone interview Saturday that Dylan was originally going to Bayfield to visit his friends Sunday night but then changed that to meet them at 6:30 a.m. Monday.<snip>

So,TMK we still don't have exactly when the boys were texting/talking with Dylan about the plans(as seen below THE TEXTING ALL DAY is referring to the boys texting Dylan ALL DAY MONDAY obviously way after the change of plans was made btwn boys and Dylan).

We know the change of plans did not occur via text/talk from Dylans cell at any point after 8pm when Dylan last text his mom to let her know dad had picked him up from airport..as per LE this is the last usage of Dylans cell phone, period..

So, question is when and WHY the plans were changed from Sunday night to 630am for Dylan to meet up with friends?
MOO but it seems as tho this change of plans had to have occurred prior to 8pm as I personally believe THERE WAS NO CONTACT OF DYLAN TO FRIENDS VIA DADS LANDLINE.. IMO if there had been that would have been released as it would establish there was contact with DYLAN AFTER 8PM TEXT TO MOM..and to our knowledge there is no contact with Dylan after that 8pm text to mom..

R said he and his friends expected Dylan&#8217;s father to drive him into town from Vallecito, but Dylan never arrived.

Mark Redwine showed up later asking where Dylan was but the three friends didn&#8217;t know.<snip>

IMO this is so very strange to hear due to the fact that ..
A) per the friends Dylan was to come meet up with them at 630am and dad was to be the ride..
B) per the dad his entire reason for not taking Dylan on the errands with him early Monday morning was due to the fact that DYLAN DID NOT WANT TO GET UP EARLY..

So, it leads me to two very different possibilities..
A) inconsistencies IMO regarding Dylan via the dads supposed to be taking son at 630am to friends..yet dad states Dylan not wanting to get up early morning Monday
Or
B) possibly that Dylan was making plans with friends on the downlow from dad..ie.. He had not informed dad he was going to meet up with friends early morning Monday, therefor dad truly had no idea about the plans, and Dylan had told dad he didn't want to get up early so as to not have to go on errands with dad, but rather sneak off to friends home AFTER DAD LEFT TO RUN ERRANDS..

R*** said he texted and called Dylan&#8217;s phone all day but didn&#8217;t get replies.<snip>

Friends had no contact with him Monday and it is Monday that state they called/text ALL DAY MONDAY obviously unanswered..

R*** and friends Fernando Stubbs and Wesley Herring were part of a group of residents Saturday going door-to-door in Bayfield on County Road 502, handing out fliers with information about Dylan.

&#8220;We asked (residents) about any sheds or barns where he could take shelter,&#8221; Fernando said.

The boys said Dylan wasn&#8217;t shy about hitching rides.

&#8220;Honestly, I think he was walking into Bayfield and got taken away,&#8221; he said.

Wesley agreed.

&#8220;I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s one to run away,&#8221; he said.<snip>

IMO the above friends statements is what further lends credence to the above described (B) possibility of Dylan making plans with the friends on the downlow from dad..giving an excuse as to why not go on early morning errands with dad, waiting til dad left the home, and then as the above quote states possibly hitched a ride from dads house to friends house..and obviously met with foul play at that point..(jmo but I still have major issues with this possibility)

At one time, all four friends attended Bayfield Middle School. Bender said in the news release that &#8220;Bayfield is where Dylan spent much of his time when he lived in the area until this past summer when he, his mother and his brother moved to Colorado Springs.&#8221;

Dylan is described as 5 feet tall, 105 pounds, blond hair, blue eyes and with a fair complexion, Bender said in the release.

The teenager was last seen wearing a blue-and-white &#8220;Duke Blue Devils&#8221; baseball cap, a black Nike T-shirt, black basketball shorts and a pair of black Jordan tennis shoes. Dylan also had a black backpack, Bender said.

Maybe I am misunderstanding the above last snipped quote but this again leads me back to dad..just where in the Hell-o would this detailed description of Dylans last seen wearing?.. I mean this is not the description of Dylan Sunday night is it?..that makes zero sense at all..as dad was the past to see him, right?..prior to leaving for his early Monday morning errands that Dylan did not want to get up that early and go with dad?..

So, Dylan had a "Duke Blue Devils" baseball cap on while still in bed?:waitasec:

All in all tho, while IMO as described above there are possiboe indicators that point away from dad(especially the friends giving their opinion that Dylan hitched a ride to their house and met with foul play in his doing so)...

But what it all goes back to is dad and this young man who is an avid texter dropping off the face of all communication at 8pm Sunday night AS SOON AS HE GETS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF HIS DAD..no further text to mom or sibling, zero contact with friends which I find highly unusual with his having plans to meet them so early Monday and "hitching" a ride to them..moo is he most definitely would have communicated..HE DID NOT..HE NEVER MADE CONTACT WITH ANOTHER SOUL AFTER 8PM SUNDAY..and there is zero to explain this..jmo..

Lastly the fathers earlier statements alluding to Dylans fishing plea actually being missing...now we know the fishing pole was not his..moo just another obvious inconsistency ...

All jmo.

**brought over my post from last thread and wanted to add in a few thoughts re:friends strange statement snipped and commented about in my above post..

I was definitely taken aback when I first read the friends stating that "they believe he hitched a ride and was taken from there"..and TBH as is usual I had two immediate differing thoughts about it..
A) my initial immediate thought was that this was what their parents told them to say due to the fact that the parents and/or the kids strongly believe the father is responsible for the disappearance..but at that stage of the case DID NOT WANT THIS THOUGHT OR OPINION OF THEIRS STATED PUBLICLY TO THE MEDIA..

OR my second immediate thought was similar to some others..

B) these kids are intentionally wanting to mislead in this direction for not near as legitimate or non-nefarious motives as their just not wanting to implicate the dad in the media this early on..

Of course as always jmo, tho..

 

[Ransom]

Here, sneeze into this envelope and send it to me. I could use a break from my snarky teens and my self-absorbed husband's expectations. The kids loved me back when they were little. Now my 16 year tells me she doesn't think of me as her mother, I'm just another person who happens to live in the same house. (sigh...) Hubby just tells me to stop making her mad. Yup, that's it. I'm not parenting, I'm just making my teenager mad.

I'll be watching my mailbox and preparing to inhale!:seeya:

(((((hugs)))))) to you. YOU are a great lady/mother. I don't know you but I do know you from your caring/thoughtful postings here. Go kick someone in the head and tell I said so!! lol. Don't let any MAN or any teen get you down. You have a good head on those womanly shoulders. USE it. Kick and take names girl.

I'm going backwards on this thread. Whooo Hoooooo. :great:

 

[jjenny]

His friends are the same age as he is. I am sure they were told is dangerous to hitch hike. Also they probably watched some horror movies. So them coming up with some sort of scenario that he was kidnapped while hitch hiking doesn't seem strange to me.

 

[shefner]

((hugs)) TGI... been through it and still going through it due to the ages of my kids... some days I really wonder if I live in another reality- or they do.

You sound like me with my 4 kids, momrids6! Let me tell ya, when your kids are born you might as well go ahead and stab yourself in the heart and save them the trouble! Ugh. They crush you inside and out and you just can't stop loving them....what's up with that?! LOL

 

[mysticskye]

Hello all! I live in Durango, and at this time of year the area, esp. lake vallecito is is LOADED with hunters, who also camp in the same area. There has been no snow so far and the temperatures have been very mild. Just some info i thought you all would like to know.

 

[Ransom]

His friends are the same age as he is. I am sure they were told is dangerous to hitch hike. Also they probably watched some horror movies. So them coming up with some sort of scenario that he was kidnapped while hitch hiking doesn't seem strange to me.

You know the ages of the friends? Please share that with us. TIA.
I do know that RN is 13, but the other friends ... no clue.
http://durangoherald.com/article/20...ment-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away--

 

[sorrell skye]

His friends are the same age as he is. I am sure they were told is dangerous to hitch hike. Also they probably watched some horror movies. So them coming up with some sort of scenario that he was kidnapped while hitch hiking doesn't seem strange to me.

I agree. I'm not sensing anything nefarious from his friends' comments - I think they're understandably worried & may be imagining a worst-case scenario. I don't think it's fair at all for anyone to cast suspicion on his friends at this point in the investigation, especially since they're minors & since LE hasn't made any statements to support such suspicions.

 

[T4Tide]

If LE wants any film of vehicles from 6pm Sunday and Dylan was supposedly last seen on Monday at 7:30am, then it is clear to me that LE is suspicious of what went on in the time from of 6pm until then. Otherwise, they would be asking or any film of vehicles after 7:30am on Monday.

Jmho

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[Ransom]

Hello all! I live in Durango, and at this time of year the area, esp. lake vallecito is is LOADED with hunters, who also camp in the same area. There has been no snow so far and the temperatures have been very mild. Just some info i thought you all would like to know.

Welcome. I live outside of Santa Fe, NM and am familiar with the weather/snow fall (lack thereof, yet again).

https://wildlife.state.co.us/HUNTING/SEASONDATESANDFEES/Pages/SeasonDatesandFees.aspx

Not even going to go into BLM land/regulations, drawings, etc. Too confusing.

 

[Dixie811]

You know the ages of the friends? Please share that with us. TIA.
I do know that RN is 13, but the other friends ... no clue.
http://durangoherald.com/article/20...ment-says-missing-teenager-did-not-run-away--

When I was 13, I had some friends who were a few years older. My friends and I also would sometimes hang out with older kids if someone's older sibling was around with or without their friends. Just throwing that out there.

JMO.

ETA: I'm not necessarily suspicious of the friends. I do wonder if they know more. (If they do, there's a good chance LE knows about it and it is just not public info... I don't see most young high school kids as sneaky enough to be able to lie or omit information from law enforcement. As a kid, I'd imagine being interviewed would be intimidating.)

 

[T4Tide]

Seriously... This phone makes me sound like I'm drunk when I post. I promise I proofread the darn stuff, and then I press submit and it turns into garbledy-gook.

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