CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #3

[vasportsmom]

Here is a start on the timeline. Feel free to add or edit as needed.


Background:
2007 - Parents Divorce
July 1 2012 - Elaine, Dylan and CR move to Colorado Springs
Labor Day 2012 - Dylan visits his father
Sept 21 2012 - Mom awarded sole custody

Sunday, Nov 18
6:00-6:30pm - Dylan was picked up by his father at Durango-La Plata County Airport.
- Dylan texts Mom that he landed and was met by Dad. Text includes "scowl" emoticon.
-Dylan and Dad grocery shop on way home and plan Thanksgiving dinner.
approx 8:00pm - Last phone activity

Monday, Nov 19
6:30am-Dylan has plans to visit friends. It is expected that his father will drive him. Dylan never arrives.. Visit was originally scheduled for Sunday evening but nothing was "etched in stone".
7:30am - Dad tries to wake Dylan but he was "out like a light"
7:30am - Dad leaves to run errands and visit his divorce lawyer.
11:30 - Dad returns home and Dylan is not there. His black Hurley backpack is missing. Cell phone, charger and "various other items" are also missing.
? - Dad went to home Dylan had planned to visit looking for him R.N. called and texted Dylan all day but did not get a reply.
4:30-5:00 - Dylan is reported missing by his father after he can not locate him.
5:30 - Mom heads to Vallecito after being notified that Dylan is missing.
? -A resident who knows Dylan reported seeing him walking along County Road 501 in Vallecito Monday afternoon with another boy about the same age. Both had backpacks.

Tuesday, Nov 20
? - "Two rescue workers said they possibly saw him on separate occasions Tuesday afternoon, but he fled into the forest. Bender said Wednesday one of the sightings turned out to be a jogger; the second may have been the same jogger or Dylan."

Bumping my own post for the poster that asked about a time.


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[LadyBugSTL]

What makes my hinky meter go off? A few things. First, all of his stuff being gone. Two, now we learn that the errand running included a visit to his divorce lawyer. Why?? Convenient or dumb luck. I just wonder - maybe Dylan did take off walking and got hit by a car or something and is down in a ditch or ravine and not visible.

I was wondering, in the event Dylan had taken off walking intending to hitch a ride to his chums, how thoroughly the roadside was searched and if it was, was it searched all the way to the treeline and all the way to town? It is a winding road and I did read somewhere that because of twists and turns and deer, etc., one could not travel "speedy fast" on it? (I believe it was discussed in a post regarding how long it would take Dylan's father to get to town).

What was the visibility like that morning? Could someone have "clipped" Dylan's backpack and not even know they did it?

Just trying to "open my mind back up" and cover all possibilities.......

 

[Lins1983]

Thanks mom!! I cant keep up!!!

 

[TGIRecovered]

I believe the possible sightings by the rescue person were found to have been a jogger. Also, the postal worker quote said " ...saw two boys, one of them resembles Dylan".
MOO

 

[Tennlyn]

We have a landline and my children act like it's the plague. They won't touch it or use it for anything. At Dylan's age a landline looks like a silk spinning wheel from the dark ages............does not compute.

My Mom still had a rotary phone until about 15 years ago. My son was totally befuddled by it! :floorlaugh:

But seriously, my son much prefers texting to talking. Others might hear you! Still, I'm not at all convinced there was cell reception nor internet available at Dad's home. Someone posted about the limited mobile service there, basically AT&T, and that reporter from Denver FB'd that he had problems with reception. My tech-savvy DH thinks if there was internet at Dad's, it would have been dial-up. Oh the horror! :what:

As for the taking everything with him, that's my son's SOP. He wouldn't have unpacked a darn thing at Dad's and just carried it all with him. I could see Dylan setting out on Monday morning in search of cell service and friends.

 

[Bravo]

Sure wish LE would give us an update. Wonder if NG intends to stick with Dylans case.

 

[bambi_sue]

Finally caught up this morning. Bringing this info on cell reception forward from one thread ago...

This website has links to coverage maps for major cell carriers:

http://www.cellreception.com/search.php?zip=81122&page=1

You have to click onto each map individually and put in an address. I compiled these results when I put MR's address, 2343 County Road 500, Bayfield, CO 81122 into each map:

Sprint - off-network roaming
AT&T - Moderate 3G voice coverage, moderate 3G data coverage
T-Mobile - no service
Verizon - no voice/text coverage, data limited 1X
Nextel - no service

FWIW.

New - I have been trying to determine what cell carrier Dylan had, but I've had no luck. If it was AT&T or Sprint, he likely had coverage. If it was T-Mobile or Nextel, no coverage. If it was Verizon, he probably had no voice coverage, but maybe some data/pings. AND, it would be great to get some local knowledge in here to verify this!

 

[TGIRecovered]

I'm going to trust the police that they would not have publicly ruled out runaway without good cause. The announcement came out yesterday and I am puzzled as to why so many seem to continue to insist that Dylan must have left on his own. The police have worked this case very well in my opinion. Much better than most if you ask me. I trust that they know what they are doing, and I'm pretty picky.

Besides, if Dylan left on foot from the house, where is the scent trail?

 

[scorekeeper]

What makes my hinky meter go off? A few things. First, all of his stuff being gone. Two, now we learn that the errand running included a visit to his divorce lawyer. Why?? Convenient or dumb luck. I just wonder - maybe Dylan did take off walking and got hit by a car or something and is down in a ditch or ravine and not visible.

BBM

This could be what happened. Someone said a lot of hunters out; so perhaps more traffic.

Perhaps he didn't call his friends because he had no service and he did go right to bed when he got to his dad's - walking/trying to get service - stumbled - hit by car - or could have fallen himself

But darn it, wouldn't the dogs pick up his scent?

Round and round we go.....I want more information....first - did the dogs pick up his scent in/around the house???

 

[Darcyline]

I'm going to trust the police that they would not have publicly ruled out runaway without good cause. The announcement came out yesterday and I am puzzled as to why so many seem to continue to insist that Dylan must have left on his own. The police have worked this case very well in my opinion. Much better than most if you ask me. I trust that they know what they are doing, and I'm pretty picky.

Besides, if Dylan left on foot from the house, where is the scent trail?

The scent trail might exist and we don't know about it. I have seen plenty of cases where scent trail stuff was either never mentioned, confirmed, or was even wrong as reported in media and it was only with a trial that the correct information came out.
Also, he could have left on his own and still not be a runaway-left to go to a friends or go fishing or whatever else and an accident happened or someone else took him. Runaway just means they don't think he literally ran away and is staying away voluntarily.

I agree about LE-they are doing a good job of investigating every angle and not just having tunnel vision. I hope they have found the right path and let us know what that is when it is the right time.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

His friends are the same age as he is. I am sure they were told is dangerous to hitch hike. Also they probably watched some horror movies. So them coming up with some sort of scenario that he was kidnapped while hitch hiking doesn't seem strange to me.

I am still getting caught up on reading this thread... So this will probably land in an awkward place...

but my posts usually sound awkward even when I am caught up on threads...:crazy:...

but I am still wondering...,as some posters have stated as well.. If the response from Dylan's friends that Dylan hitch hiked.. And was taken by someone.. Was maybe "suggested" or "planted" by someone(s)?

and I am now wondering if the friends do know more than what they are saying... Or what is being reported that they have said...

No pointing fingers from me... Just wondering out loud...

JMO

 

[OtherEyes]

My Mom still had a rotary phone until about 15 years ago. My son was totally befuddled by it! :floorlaugh:

But seriously, my son much prefers texting to talking. Others might hear you! Still, I'm not at all convinced there was cell reception nor internet available at Dad's home. Someone posted about the limited mobile service there, basically AT&T, and that reporter from Denver FB'd that he had problems with reception. My tech-savvy DH thinks if there was internet at Dad's, it would have been dial-up. Oh the horror! :what:

As for the taking everything with him, that's my son's SOP. He wouldn't have unpacked a darn thing at Dad's and just carried it all with him. I could see Dylan setting out on Monday morning in search of cell service and friends.

I know, right!? Remember how humiliating it was when a boy would call your house and your parents answered and then proceed to listen in on your conversation!:redface:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

So does your avatar... sometimes makes me feel like I'm drunk!:giggle:

:silly:

 

[bambi_sue]

One more post on cell reception, then I'll let the issue go.

All five of the cell carriers - Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon & Nextel have strong coverage in Colorado Springs per the coverage maps.

In Bayfield, Sprint, AT&T and Verizon have the best coverage. T-Mobile has limited 2G coverage and Nextel has no coverage in Bayfield.

SO, if the family kept their cell provider when they moved to Colorado Springs, I would guess they have Sprint, AT&T or Verizon. Of those two, Sprint and AT&T would have the best coverage in Vallecito. Verizon has no voice/text and limited data there. If they have Verizon, I could see that being why no cell activity after 8PM, IMO.

If the family changed cell providers when they moved to Colorado Springs, all bets are off - they could have any of the five listed providers.

Source: http://www.cellreception.com/

 

[scorekeeper]

I'm going to trust the police that they would not have publicly ruled out runaway without good cause. The announcement came out yesterday and I am puzzled as to why so many seem to continue to insist that Dylan must have left on his own. The police have worked this case very well in my opinion. Much better than most if you ask me. I trust that they know what they are doing, and I'm pretty picky.

Besides, if Dylan left on foot from the house, where is the scent trail?

The scent trail might exist and we don't know about it. I have seen plenty of cases where scent trail stuff was either never mentioned, confirmed, or was even wrong as reported in media and it was only with a trial that the correct information came out.
Also, he could have left on his own and still not be a runaway-left to go to a friends or go fishing or whatever else and an accident happened or someone else took him. Runaway just means they don't think he literally ran away and is staying away voluntarily.

I agree about LE-they are doing a good job of investigating every angle and not just having tunnel vision. I hope they have found the right path and let us know what that is when it is the right time.

Darcy - congrats on #1000 post

I agree LE seems to be doing everything by the book and covering all bases.

Answers about a scent trail would be so helpful and I pray they have one!!

Concerning "runaway" I know LE has said that is ruled out (and I have to accept their statement). So my hope is he left the house willingly. If so, he could have possibly had an accident or far worse, met with foul play along his trip.

But it all comes back to the scent trail because dad did say he saw Dylan at the house at 730 am - still in bed, sleeping.

 

[Darcyline]

The spotty cell service makes sense to me. I think it is possible he didn't have service at the house. I don't have cell service at my parents' house, but they do. I either have to use their phones or drive 2-3 minutes away to get service. I could see him not having service, getting up the next morning, and then walking to the area where he could get service.

Now I just have to explain why he might have had all his belongings with him...

 

[dlc]

You know this as a FACT. Only thing I know is what she said. I truly have no idea where she was on Sunday late morning/afternoon/evening (putting Dylan on a plane, but did SHE do that or did CR or Mike?) - Monday evening when Mark called her on her cell. Calling on a cell doesn't put her in C Springs. Just pondering here.

Dear Ransom,

I hate to ask again, but I figure since everyone's pondering, I have to admit that I am too. As I mentioned yesterday, way back at the beginning of this case, you posted a very unusual note, one that seemed to imply some insight, or inside information, on what was really happening with Dylan.

At the time, I kind of let it go by, as I felt sure he'd be found quickly. Now, however, I feel that whatever you were trying to say in that note might be very important, and I would like to ask _again_ if you could repost it and clarify exactly what you meant by it. It keeps sticking with me.

PLEASE.
Thank you.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

So, according to LE above the father stated THAT HE SAW HIS SON on Monday prior to leaving the home to run errands..

And then we have LE statement of WHAT HE WAS WEARING WHEN HE WAS LAST SEEN..

So, was he in bed still sleeping when dad left or not?..above quote is cut/dry of LE stating dad told them he did see his son that morning..and LE states what Dylan was wearing WHEN HE WAS LAST SEEN by dad..???

There is a problems with this, because at the time information about Dylan was given to media in the area about his disappearance there was NO discription of what Dylan had on....then a day or two later, we were given information of what he was wearing, so we are not sure where that discription has come from....I have never seen it stated that MR stated DR was wearing these clothes.

 

[LadyBugSTL]

Per Kevin Torres on Facebook:


"Today I will be doing follow up reports on the search for Dylan Redwine. Look for my stories on 9news at 4pm, 5pm and 6pm"

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Well, since they are people who claim to have seen Laci Peterson walking after she went missing, i don't put much value into it at all. Every time somebody goes missing, there are sightings all over the place. My impression is also that this witness isn't sure the boy was Dylan, just someone who looked like him.

It is hard to accept this sighting as fact...

1. It has not been confirmed by LE

2. If the postal carrier had actually exchanged waves with this boy... And/or... Better yet.... Spoken with this boy... Then it would be way more credible to me...

But I do not want to disqualify it completely, altogether, either...

JMO