CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #4

[LotusPawprint]

The pictures and videos of Dylan are so heartbreaking.... he is (I am saying IS present tense until proven otherwise) so precious and happy and seems to have a really good life overall... baseball, friends, a cool big brother, school, lots of hobbies, a mother who clearly loves him. Whatever is happening to him is awful and whoever is responsible no matter what they did and why they did it is a true monster. Still with that said I'll pray for a miracle and hope a recovered alive Dylan can heal with help and support... better than the alternative. Sweet boy deserves to be protected fiercely and he's been failed. Hopefully the work investigators did today will lead to some answers tomorrow, and who knows, maybe some positive answers. lease: Night all!

 

[vasportsmom]

I am so angry. I feel duped. It's irrational but it is there. I have been harder on Mom than most anybody here. I judged her rather harshly and was horrified that she accused Dylan's father of killing him. I was horrible, there is no other way to look at it now.

That poor woman had to sit there, at a vigil for her baby and listen to the man she trusted to take care of him say that he is dead and then take a shot at her in parting!


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[katydid23]

Sorry, not sure if this has been posted yet...so many pages...looks like something was updated 5 minutes ago (re: search of father's house)...if so, please delete, thanks.

Investigators search house of Dylan's father
The Durango Herald ‎- 9 minutes ago
The La Plata County Sheriff's Office served a search warrant Thursday morning at the home of Mark Redwine, father of 13-year-old Dylan ...

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121129/NEWS01/121129570/-1/s

I'm confused, why so long for the search? Isn't that standard procedure? Wouldn't an immediate warrant have been filed due to the fact a child could be in danger? I thought there was something like an expedited warrant? Maybe this has already been discussed, sorry.

I read an earlier article where Bender said they did already do a search of the home. He said they searched all of the rooms and the basement and the property, making sure Dylan wasn't there, and also seeing if they came on anything to help in the search.

So it is 11 days later but not the first search.

 

[vasportsmom]

I need to be really careful about how I phrase this.

Sometimes fires are caused by materials other than pot roast and gravy.
Just a thought with absoluuuuutely no verification.

I knew better than admitting I burned the bread yesterday but must we keep bringing it up?


*I kid


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[AlexisFresca]

This video so sickened me I couldn't watch the end. And my ire hit flashpoint in less than a second when this "dad" felt he had to mention in a vigil for his missing son that he and his exwife didn't get along. Personally,my gut felt that was just another way of pointing blame toward HER for this situation. As though she should have "gotten along" with him better or this wouldn't have happened. But that's just my gut speaking. I'm hoping, hoping, hoping that forensics and investigation lead us in a better direction than this.

Also, lack of pleas for his safe return. Since abduction was not ruled out, why not plea to his abductor(s) to let him go? Why not let Dylan know you're not giving up to find him so the family can be together again and so on?

Where was it that he said something along the lines of (referring to him and ER) that 'that we should be together' or something like that? That was also an odd comment that stuck out like a sore thumb, considering the situation.

Am going to guess she filed, he didn't want the divorce. He may have even gone so far as to think that shared custody might lead to a reuniting of him and ER down the road?

 

[jjenny]

I read an earlier article where Bender said they did already do a search of the home. He said they searched all of the rooms and the basement and the property, making sure Dylan wasn't there, and also seeing if they came on anything to help in the search.

So it is 11 days later but not the first search.

But it doesn't sound like they did any forensics during the first search.
Which is a pity.
I am not sure why it always seem to take them so long before they do these types of searches.

 

[momrids6]

Then I come back to, MR saying he wasn't getting a lot of support.
Just trying to understand all these contradictions.

He said his brother was flying in - did not have family in the area for support. I think he is a private man.


https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine/posts/557900314236576 Problem is- this person says "he told me" and also her opinions on things...

:fence:

 

[OneLove]

Especially now that we have been told that Dylan actually went to bed as soon as he got home. So if he was asleep by 9 pm, why couldnt he wake up 10 hrs later?

Yeah, and I have to say that a kid this age going to bed this early is HIGHLY unlikely.

And even if he was "out like a light" in the morning, most kids I think would rouse themselves just barely enough to say "leave me alone, I don't want to go" then fall back asleep. That is, IF a parent "really" tried to wake them. :what:

 

[LotusPawprint]

I am so angry. I feel duped. It's irrational but it is there. I have been harder on Mom than most anybody here. I judged her rather harshly and was horrified that she accused Dylan's father of killing him. I was horrible, there is no other way to look at it now.

That poor woman had to sit there, at a vigil for her baby and listen to the man she trusted to take care of him say that he is dead and then take a shot at her in parting!


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Aww... I think you've been very good at taking everything in as it comes and assessing it all evenly without extreme bias. Just my observation. We really don't know anything about mom or dad or their relationship or background or motives or anything.... But I think we're seeing the truth come out and I think the investigation is slowly coming around. I'm not sure why this guy thinks what he's doing is working, but the truth will prevail. I'm afraid too late... You really were being a voice of reason trying to make sense of the parents interactions based on what we knew at the time.
Now LE needs to name a suspect.
<3 Prayers for Dylan and all loving moms and dads

 

[AlexisFresca]

I need to be really careful about how I phrase this.

Sometimes fires are caused by materials other than pot roast and gravy.
Just a thought with absoluuuuutely no verification.

Okay, and with absolutely no verification, let's think about why such a fire might come about ... ?? While I have a couple of ideas ...

 

[tlzzdavis]

daily mail doesn't say they dto ecided to meet in place other than their home. By the way, how does daily mail write these articles about happenings in US? Considering daily mail is in UK.

It is called international news. I do believe every large newspaper or news channel reports international news...how else would we know about world events.

Plus people get excited because it is MSM and that is supposed to be facts rights? And if they have been away I know many people scroll thru to look for links to catch up. Seems pretty innocent.
In my eyes the only thing we can be sure of is Dylan is missing. Every other "fact" seems to have a story to contradict it.

I think also the wording "setting off" means to be enroute not putting off plans.

ETA: as far as the search of his dad's home...did you follow the Jessica Ridgeway case? This one has a lot of parallels when it comes to the tactics used by detectives.

 

[cluciano63]

But it doesn't sound like they did any forensics during the first search.
Which is a pity.
I am not sure why it always seem to take them so long before they do these types of searches.

I agree and posted this earlier, it always seems to be in the 2nd week or even later. I say tear the house apart early on, while doing the other elements at the same time, i.e. interviews, using dogs, and all that.

 

[vasportsmom]

Aww... I think you've been very good at taking everything in as it comes and assessing it all evenly without extreme bias. Just my observation. We really don't know anything about mom or dad or their relationship or background or motives or anything.... But I think we're seeing the truth come out and I think the investigation is slowly coming around. I'm not sure why this guy thinks what he's doing is working, but the truth will prevail. I'm afraid too late... You really were being a voice of reason trying to make sense of the parents interactions based on what we knew at the time.
Now LE needs to name a suspect.
<3 Prayers for Dylan and all loving moms and dads

Thank you. That was really sweet.

I think we will see an arrest in this case pretty soon. I just hope that Dylan's remains can be recovered for the sake of his mom and brother.


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[OneLove]

I am so angry. I feel duped. It's irrational but it is there. I have been harder on Mom than most anybody here. I judged her rather harshly and was horrified that she accused Dylan's father of killing him. I was horrible, there is no other way to look at it now.

That poor woman had to sit there, at a vigil for her baby and listen to the man she trusted to take care of him say that he is dead and then take a shot at her in parting!


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Don't be so hard on yourself; speculation on any and every possible scenario is what eventually solves cases. You were just speculating, since there was no evidence to support much of anything at that time.

I think we are starting to see a course being charted now..... And I so hope I am wrong. But still, the video certainly was a gut clincher, eh?

 

[AlexisFresca]

I am so angry. I feel duped. It's irrational but it is there. I have been harder on Mom than most anybody here. I judged her rather harshly and was horrified that she accused Dylan's father of killing him. I was horrible, there is no other way to look at it now.

That poor woman had to sit there, at a vigil for her baby and listen to the man she trusted to take care of him say that he is dead and then take a shot at her in parting!


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It reminds me of the days my alcoholic cousin had the audacity to say the reason he drank was due to his fighting parents. He was already well into his 20's when he made that comment. oh puhleez!! :angry

Yeah, pretty rotten thing to say.

They divorced in 2007; Corey would have been 15/16 at the time. Wondering how difft visitation was when both went to see dad, verses when it was just Dylan visiting dad alone?

 

[vasportsmom]

Don't be so hard on yourself; speculation on any and every possible scenario is what eventually solves cases. You were just speculating, since there was no evidence to support much of anything at that time.

I think we are starting to see a course being charted now..... And I so hope I am wrong. But still, the video certainly was a gut clincher, eh?

I don't think we have saw the last of that video. That statement has teeth and it is going to come back to bite.


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[Indy Anna]

Ok, so the vigil. We read that this is a close community and that everybody knows everybody, watches out for other peoples' children and so on.
MR said he was late coming to the vigil because he didn't know about it. How can this be?
Then I come back to, MR saying he wasn't getting a lot of support.
Just trying to understand all these contradictions.

Yes. My thoughts, too. Also, I've been trying to find an article I read yesterday or the previous day in which a comment he made struck me as very odd. It was where he mentioned that his brother was flying in to stay with him, but now I can't find an article that includes the odd comment. It was something like he didn't want to stay in that house, but his brother was flying in to stay with him. It just bothered me why he wouldn't want to stay in the house. I've heard people talk about not wanting to stay in a house after something awful happened there. But, usually the parent of a missing child or other family member doesn't want to leave that house because they want to be there when the child returns. I remember parents of children missing over a decade saying they won't move to another house because they still hold out hope that their child will return there. The comment gave me the impression that something happened to Dylan in that house.

 

[vasportsmom]

Yes. My thoughts, too. Also, I've been trying to find an article I read yesterday or the previous day in which a comment he made struck me as very odd. It was where he mentioned that his brother was flying in to stay with him, but now I can't find an article that includes the odd comment. It was something like he didn't want to stay in that house, but his brother was flying in to stay with him. It just bothered me why he wouldn't want to stay in the house. I've heard people talk about not wanting to stay in a house after something awful happened there. But, usually the parent of a missing child or other family member doesn't want to leave that house because they want to be there when the child returns. I remember parents of children missing over a decade saying they won't move to another house because they still hold out hope that their child will return there. The comment gave me the impression that something happened to Dylan in that house.

Give me a minute. I remember making a note about that when I was building the time line yesterday. Brb with link. I hope.

He said he will continue to stay in his house, saying he thought that was what would be best for Dylan. Mark Redwine&#8217;s brother also is staying with him.

http://durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20121128/NEWS01/121129612&template=mobileart

Btw, I love your name. Too cute!


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[margarita25]

Sometimes fires which are not accidental have fraudulent financial motivations and connections, which is insight into character.

Sometimes fires are the result of the manufacturing of illegal substances, lets say hypothetically, methamphetamines.

I'm curious, lets just say hypothetically, someone is suspected, or convicted, of drug use. That would be a good reason for a judge to award primary custody (or whatever the correct wording is) to another party. But, hypothetically, if this were the case, would a judge still allow visitation?

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

 

[OneLove]

Was that Dylan's older brother who gave Mark Redwine a big hug after he spoke at the vigil? Interesting. I kind of wish he would make a public comment to add to his mom's and dad's comments. It might help "round out the picture" as to the family dynamics.