CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 - #4

[AlexisFresca]

I don't think we have saw the last of that video. That statement has teeth and it is going to come back to bite.


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Not defending anyone when saying this; just wanted to mention if you pay real close attention, you can tell where MR's comment was edited. It would be nice to know what his comment is unedited - I would like to know what was edited out. While you can't deny the words, you also can't deny that words between what we saw/heard just might paint a less bleak picture. jmo.

 

[katydid23]

One of the 'goals' of a vigil is to inspire the community to carry on the search. Make people feel motivated to continue the quest.

His speech did the opposite. I wonder if LE had undercover investigators watching the action? I bet they did, and their jaws dropped open.

Wonder if the 'statement analysis' crew heard this? :what: :what:

 

[tlzzdavis]

Nevermind...not worth a time out. But I have to say how many people would be looking at dad if mom had not lashed out from the get go...lots of grasping at straws going on now.

 

[momrids6]

Yes. My thoughts, too. Also, I've been trying to find an article I read yesterday or the previous day in which a comment he made struck me as very odd. It was where he mentioned that his brother was flying in to stay with him, but now I can't find an article that includes the odd comment. It was something like he didn't want to stay in that house, but his brother was flying in to stay with him. It just bothered me why he wouldn't want to stay in the house. I've heard people talk about not wanting to stay in a house after something awful happened there. But, usually the parent of a missing child or other family member doesn't want to leave that house because they want to be there when the child returns. I remember parents of children missing over a decade saying they won't move to another house because they still hold out hope that their child will return there. The comment gave me the impression that something happened to Dylan in that house.

"He said he will continue to stay in his house, saying he thought that was what would be best for Dylan. Mark Redwine’s brother also is staying with him."

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...2/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say--

 

[OneLove]

Sometimes fires which are not accidental have fraudulent financial motivations and relationships, which is insight into character.

Sometimes fires are the result of the manufacturing of illegal substances, lets say hypothetically, methamphetamines.

I'm curious, lets just say hypothetically, someone is suspected, or convicted, of drug use. That would be a good reason for a judge to award primary custody (or whatever the correct wording is) to another party. But, hypothetically, if this were the case, would a judge still allow visitation?

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Hmmmm. I would think it would have to be more than "suspected" to cost loss of custody in court, especially if contested. So there should be a conviction on record, unless expunged. Unless the parent gave up joint custody voluntarily when threatened by the other parent rather than firing up an attorney once again. Those battles can get costly, in more ways than one.

 

[SuziQ]

Fwiw, regarding cell reception in the area. IMO, if LE is so concerned about the lack of use of the phone after 8pm Sunday, that they use this to base their theory he didn't run away, then they fully expect that Dylan had access to cell coverage.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Sometimes fires which are not accidental have fraudulent financial motivations and relationships, which is insight into character.

Sometimes fires are the result of the manufacturing of illegal substances, lets say hypothetically, methamphetamines.

I'm curious, lets just say hypothetically, someone is suspected, or convicted, of drug use. That would be a good reason for a judge to award primary custody (or whatever the correct wording is) to another party. But, hypothetically, if this were the case, would a judge still allow visitation?

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Good thoughts. Said fire occurred in 2010; would it take two years to change a custody agreement - would it take that long to complete/try such an investigation as mentioned above, before having what you need to pursue full custody? Seriously, I don't know.
Possibly supervised visits, if the parent could prove they 'cleaned up their act'. :dunno

Have ER and MR lived in other states prior to CO? Wonder what their employment histories were if they did? Were there issues of drinking, anger management, child neglect, abuse, writing bad checks, financial problems? The list could go on and on. Just curious and not trying to win an all expense paid trip into any tunnel. :|

OH, and what happened of their first house in CO?
The one closest to the airport; where someone commented MR was passed full ownership (or something like that) in 2003, was it?
Does he still own it or did he sell it?
What years did they live there? Anyone know?

 

[katydid23]

Yes. My thoughts, too. Also, I've been trying to find an article I read yesterday or the previous day in which a comment he made struck me as very odd. It was where he mentioned that his brother was flying in to stay with him, but now I can't find an article that includes the odd comment. It was something like he didn't want to stay in that house, but his brother was flying in to stay with him. It just bothered me why he wouldn't want to stay in the house. I've heard people talk about not wanting to stay in a house after something awful happened there. But, usually the parent of a missing child or other family member doesn't want to leave that house because they want to be there when the child returns. I remember parents of children missing over a decade saying they won't move to another house because they still hold out hope that their child will return there. The comment gave me the impression that something happened to Dylan in that house.

Interesting. I get the same feeling. When he said the boy ' was out like a light' Monday morning, it gave me the chills.

I got a weird feeling when he said something like " He needs to come back home because everyone wants that." [ I will go find the exact quote]

 

[Ronso]

Nevermind...not worth a time out. But I have to say how many people would be looking at dad if mom had not lashed out from the get go...lots of grasping at straws going on now.

I don't really care what one ex has to say about the other. However, I did grow up with a pathological liar as a brother, who molested my sister for years unbeknownst to me, her twin.... and watched him while growing up ONLY show "remorse" or emotion when he was trying to get out of something. He didn't cry, unless he was lying. MR's words, facial expression, and tone, reminded me of my brother. Maybe that makes me irrational, but it's something I can't ignore.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Nevermind...not worth a time out. But I have to say how many people would be looking at dad if mom had not lashed out from the get go...lots of grasping at straws going on now.

My feelings on this one came about well before ER said what she did.

 

[katydid23]

Nevermind...not worth a time out. But I have to say how many people would be looking at dad if mom had not lashed out from the get go...lots of grasping at straws going on now.

I think a lot of people were looking at dad sideways, BEFORE mom said anything bad about him. If you look at the start of these threads, lots of posts from the mods admonishing us for casting suspicion his way. :angel:

 

[AlexisFresca]

"He said he will continue to stay in his house, saying he thought that was what would be best for Dylan. Mark Redwine’s brother also is staying with him."

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...2/Dylan-Redwine-did-not-run-away-police-say--

Why wasn't the brother at the vigil with him?
Where was MR and his brother while his house was searched?
Did his brother rent a car? LE took both MR's vehicles; hard to get around those parts without one.

 

[SuziQ]

Nevermind...not worth a time out. But I have to say how many people would be looking at dad if mom had not lashed out from the get go...lots of grasping at straws going on now.

Mom didn't lash out for a full week or more. And before then I had fully moved into the tunnel and unpacked. My opinion about dad has not one thing to do with what mom has said.

 

[margarita25]

At what time does it get dark, say starting at the airport? If it was already almost dark by 6:00 p.m., and LE is asking for surveillance footage or photo's taken at that time of roads, etc, specific routes and so on - would they even show anything or be of benefit?

Good point. The other day I was driving home from Denver, and the sun went behind the mountain making it virtually dark at 5pm!

 

[SuziQ]

I find LE's comment about Dylan making it to La Plata County and beyond that they don't have much interesting. Tells me all they pretty much know is Dylan made it to the airport and the trail goes cold. What about the grocery shopping? Could that not be verified?

 

[OneLove]

I don't really care what one ex has to say about the other. However, I did grow up with a pathological liar as a brother, who molested my sister for years unbeknownst to me, her twin.... and watched him while growing up ONLY show "remorse" or emotion when he was trying to get out of something. He didn't cry, unless he was lying. MR's words, facial expression, and tone, reminded me of my brother. Maybe that makes me irrational, but it's something I can't ignore.

Very VERY valuable observation, IMO. Once we've known a sociopath (or narcissist, etc) up close and personal, we tend to become hyper vigilant for those cues we somehow missed in our first unfortunate encounter.

I get a similar feeling in this case; the words and the nonverbal cues just don't match up, are eerily askew.

I do hope I'm wrong, though.

 

[momrids6]

Why wasn't the brother at the vigil with him?
Where was MR and his brother while his house was searched?
Did his brother rent a car? LE took both MR's vehicles; hard to get around those parts without one.

His brother had to fly in- I believe Tuesday

11 hours ago - "When asked about widespread information that Dylan's cellphone was turned off Sunday evening and has stayed off since, Bender would not confirm."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kYHgBA&usg=AFQjCNHnXeZrTq6aG4qjp1hq_TX_PJlzEA

 

[AlexisFresca]

Was that Dylan's older brother who gave Mark Redwine a big hug after he spoke at the vigil? Interesting. I kind of wish he would make a public comment to add to his mom's and dad's comments. It might help "round out the picture" as to the family dynamics.

For me, I can kind of see why he would not do that. Think of how awkward it must be for him, with both parents nearby, missing little brother, things he knows about the parents relationship/divorce we never will know. He probly doesn't want to alienate either of them right now. Yanno?

I'd hate to be in his shoes - both of his parents are going to REALLY need him sometime soon. Both due to loss, for various reasons on either end. What an awful position for him.

 

[SuziQ]

Actually LE said they have ruled out that Dylan ran away and are investigating an abduction/kidnapping or foul play scenario. Sound like LE is saying a crime has been commited.

 

[SuziQ]

His brother had to fly in- I believe Tuesday

11 hours ago - "When asked about widespread information that Dylan's cellphone was turned off Sunday evening and has stayed off since, Bender would not confirm."

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kYHgBA&usg=AFQjCNHnXeZrTq6aG4qjp1hq_TX_PJlzEA

Didn't he already confirm that info on Nancy Grace?