CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #11

[oceanblueeyes]

So we have links saying that MR was forcing ER into court every month against her will? I will have to google that...

They just had a custody fight over who got him for Thanksgiving. Not surprising at all to me that he may be seeing his attorney after that-custody battles and visitation are no joke and you need to keep in touch with an attorney throughout that. Like, he may have even been meeting about Christmas.

Heck he may have had to go by and pay his lawyer for all we know.

 

[jjenny]

Because if he goes missing on Mark Redwine's watch there is a great likelihood he would lose all rights to see his son.

IMO

Well considering the son is nowhere to be found, who is he going to see?

 

[tamild]

Respectfully snipped:

I'm not criticizing or insulting ER, but I think she has been trying to "glorify" her relationship with Dylan, probably as much to herself as to other people. She has repeatedly made it sound like Dylan was constantly checking in with her and telling her about every move he made (whose house he was at, what he was doing, etc.), but the plane was reported to have landed at around 6 (possibly 6:30 by one source), but he didn't text her and say he was there or that he had been picked up; she asked him if those things had happened and he sent a text back saying "yes". She also said that he always sent her a text before he went to bed (or at least to let her know where he'd be sleeping) and one in the morning, but she wasn't concerned when neither one happened. She also said she usually would send him a text off and on during the day to say she loved him and ask if he was having fun, but in the 24+ hours it had been since she saw him, she either didn't send any texts (other than the arrival/pickup one) or she wasn't concerned about not getting a response.


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My feelings are pretty similar on this point. Going back to the CBS comment about the scowling emoticon-did she follow up on that? I mean, if my kid were 6 hrs away with a man I neither liked nor trusted, and he sent me a scowl, I'd be asking what was wrong. Even if I thought it was due to him not wanting to be there, I'd probably at least say some words of support and let him know I loved him, kwim? ::::shrug:::: maybe she did and we just don't know about it. :twocents:

 

[JustJeannie]

No, I haven't seen them. Kids aren't always that open when talking to the judge and dads lawyer is sitting right there barring some provable crime, the judge had no choice but to sanction the visit. The distance would make it darn near impossible to order supervised visits.

BBM

Do we know dad's lawyer was there? I had a friend that went through a pretty acrimonious divorce, and when the judge wanted to talk to her daughters about what they wanted, he took them individually into his chambers. The only people present were the judge, the attorney appointed by the court to represent the children - not either parent's attorney - and the court reporter. The records were sealed, because they were minor children. Neither parent or their lawyer knows exactly they told him.

When the judge made his decision, he referenced the discussion only by saying that he had considered everything, including what the children said. He never mentioned any specifics.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Because if he goes missing on Mark Redwine's watch there is a great likelihood he would lose all rights to see his son.

IMO

So where is he? And when and how is he coming back?




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[mck16]

The reporter states it in the video at this link...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/303598/339/Missing-boys-family-had-violent-history

It seems that video is unavailable. Is it working for anyone? tia

 

[oceanblueeyes]

No, I haven't seen them. Kids aren't always that open when talking to the judge and dads lawyer is sitting right there barring some provable crime, the judge had no choice but to sanction the visit. The distance would make it darn near impossible to order supervised visits.


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But we cant say Dylan wasnt honest. Who knows he may have been very honest and told them he really did want to see his dad but he knows it makes his mother very upset.

I see no reason why he would lie. He didnt even live in the same town his father did.

IMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

In questionable situations sometimes the judge will order monitored visitation. In my grandsons situation it was monitored for 2 hours a week.

And how is that going to work with the distances in this case?


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[oceanblueeyes]

So where is he? And when and how is he coming back?




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:floorlaugh: Do you really think I know that?

I sure wish I did.

imo

 

[imamaze]

Do we have evidence or a link to the fact that MR was dragging his ex to court all the time? I only see the divorce which I believe was initiated by Mom, the custody change which was initiated by Mom moving, and MR wanting to see his son for Thanksgiving which to me is a parental right and you bet your butt I would be in court trying to see my children.
I may have missed a few pages though?

No, you havent' missed any pages, what you've wrote is correct Darcy.

 

[jjenny]

It seems that video is unavailable. Is it working for anyone? tia

Works fine for me.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Because if he goes missing on Mark Redwine's watch there is a great likelihood he would lose all rights to see his son.

IMO

so ER would risk losing the custody she had just gained? and if so the visit was supposed to be over weeks ago, don't you think that Dylan would have reappeared by now if that was the case?

 

[TexasCharm]

Everything I write here is just my thoughts on the situation, and I won't be defending any of it. You may not think the same way as I do, but you can't argue that I don't think these things!

I'm wondering if the reason they've asked that there be no children or young people is because they'll be searching along a highway and kids aren't always as observant as they should be.

I'm not criticizing or insulting ER, but I think she has been trying to "glorify" her relationship with Dylan, probably as much to herself as to other people. She has repeatedly made it sound like Dylan was constantly checking in with her and telling her about every move he made (whose house he was at, what he was doing, etc.), but the plane was reported to have landed at around 6 (possibly 6:30 by one source), but he didn't text her and say he was there or that he had been picked up; she asked him if those things had happened and he sent a text back saying "yes". She also said that he always sent her a text before he went to bed (or at least to let her know where he'd be sleeping) and one in the morning, but she wasn't concerned when neither one happened. She also said she usually would send him a text off and on during the day to say she loved him and ask if he was having fun, but in the 24+ hours it had been since she saw him, she either didn't send any texts (other than the arrival/pickup one) or she wasn't concerned about not getting a response.

There were several other things I wanted to cover, but I'll quit for now with this. I'm not saying that ER did anything wrong, but I think people need to remember that she and MR had a very adversarial relationship, and neither is likely to be seeing/painting an accurate picture of the other.
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If you will allow me to jump off of this post .....

I want to address the infamous "scowl" emoticon..

Since it is known that ER and MR have an adversarial relationship, and I would bet that Dylan has grown up hearing crap from both sides about his other parent.

I wonder what was being said between ER and DR prior to his getting on the plane. Was there MR trashing? Was there speculation about whether MR would be on time .. or there at all? Was anything negative said to DR about his dad during this time? Or something as innocent as her telling him to text her the SECOND he lands or hooks up with dad.

If so, and after DR has landed and didn't immediately text his mom. What can we supposed her text might have said that could elicit a scowlie face response.

Somthing like:
__________________

Sooo R U there? Did UR dad actually come?


Yes. ;-(

___________________

Of course the content of the texts is unknown to us so this is all supposition. I just think sooooooooo much is being made of the scowlie face and it could have been as simple as him wishing the digs would stop.

imo imo imo

 

[Linda7NJ]

Heck he may have had to go by and pay his lawyer for all we know.

with the price of gas verses stamps...I think I'd opt for a stamp


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[oceanblueeyes]

And how is that going to work with the distances in this case?


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The Judge would get in touch with the local courts there to set up supervised visitation. Just like in other cases where the parents live in two different places and one has supervised visitation or they would make MR come to the town where Dylan lived.

This Judge imo saw no reason for the week long visit to be supervised.

 

[SailorMoon]

If his mom's family was going to hide Dylan, why send him on the plane at all? I mean, if they did hide him, they have to "unhide" him sooner or later, right? So it would all come out anyway. I am not understanding this scenario at all.

And if someone did "hide" him to make MR look bad, why hasn't he been returned? Maybe because they thought an arrest would be made post haste and that didn't happen and they are in "now what- oh crap" mode.

We just don't know. I don't see any reason for ER to harm Dylan and I agree, she may be embellishing shall we say on how much interaction she had with Dylan. Or not. I just hope this weekend's search is thorough.

 

[jjenny]

The Judge would get in touch with the local courts there to set up supervised visitation. Just like in other cases where the parents live in two different places and one has supervised visitation or they would make MR come to the town where Dylan lived.

This Judge imo saw no reason for the week long visit to be supervised.

There are a number of cases where unsupervised visitation was granted, and a child ended up dead. So the judge granting visitation doesn't mean the child is going to be safe while visiting.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

with the price of gas verses stamps...I think I'd opt for a stamp


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So would I but people in rural communities still go directly to the places of businesses to make payments.

IMO

 

[TexasCharm]

IMO he strikes me as someone that is NEVER happy. Evidenced by the court history.


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There were two people involved in these court hearings ... is she NEVER happy too? I don't believe I've seen who initiated all these court hearings..

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There are a number of cases where unsupervised visitation was granted, and a child ended up dead. So the judge granting visitation doesn't mean the child is going to be safe while visiting.

That doesnt mean it ever happened in this case though. Are they still saying MR is not a suspect?

Just because some do .......the vast majority do not wind up dead or harmed at all.