CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #11

[Eileen730]

There are a lot of rules in statement analysis that light up the hinky meter when he speaks. Including some of the cliches used like ' out like a light' and ' we struggled with..' jmo

I heard that it was some other woman in the house that Cory supposedly tried to throw down the stairs. And this woman - accirding to Mark - supposedly couldnt control Cory. BDid anyone else hear it that way??

Yes I did!
Was it the woman dad was with in the back yard? Maybe?

 

[SCHMAE]

I saw dad was all concerned about something that allegedly happened two years before the complaint was made.

Dad said those things about Cory and his ex wife.


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Actually the reporter said Cory had legal trouble re: drugs , alcohol
So if that is true, its not a far stretch to think the other may be
true.

 

[LotusPawprint]

If a 13-year old tells a judge that his dad gets drunk and beats him, would that judge still force a court-ordered visit?

That's not what I was thinking, but I've seen enough cases where legitimate concerns have been reported to judges and/or CPS and a child was still sent off to that parent.

 

[dogsearch]

I saw this discussed upthread so I'm bringing forward my own post w/the screengrabs of MR's charges from NG on the 12/3 show - for easy reference

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

Thank you thank you! I looked and looked and couldn't find the screenshot myself.

Child abuse-negligence-no-injury to me hints possibly drunk threatening rant at neighbor in front of the kids over a broken toy.

So
1988: Menacing - guilty plea
1992: Theft - guilty plea
2003: Child abuse/neglect no injury + menacing + disorderly conduct/unreasonable noice + trespassing + 3rd degree assault (which could be resisting arrest) ... all pled down to single count of disorderly conduct/noise.
2005: Mom wants to get divorced. Dad claims she likes to drive kids around after drinking, so he pulls them out of school in fear mom will pick them up drunk (that statement just confuses me - I think he's leaving something out here - almost sounds like another possible scary get back at mom by taking the kids out of school unexpectedly situation).
2008: Dad has drunken sex with a women under mom's window. Mom comes out screaming the kids could see, and Dad grabs her in the commotion and swings towards Cory. Dylan gets involved and swings at Mark. Mark is later beat up and basically lays passed out (my guess is more drunk than hurt?), and doesn't know who the attacker is - but Cory admits later it was him.
So sounds like Mom files restraining order request. Dad replies with his own restraining order request, listing driving kids drunk and his son beating him up (after Mark swung first, mind you) as violence by his mom. Both are dismissed in a couple of months.
Unknown date - Mom moves away with the boys. Dad rarely sees Dylan at all, and has to go to court just to get his holidays.
October - Mark loses custody completely, and only gets visitation. Even that seems to only be on rare holidays, at least so far.

 

[EGirl]

Judges/Courts wouldn't have such a hard time with custody/visitation decisions is so many parents didn't lie and use the court system as a weapon against their ex, regardless of how it hurts the child.

Sorry, I don't 'great parent' from either the mom or dad. JMO

 

[FlyerFan28]

I got ya ! I'm sorry.
I'm a little more emotional than I expected.
Just...........ugh

No apology needed. I think we're all pretty much on the same page.

I am in the 'Dylan never made to it dads house camp'. IMHO and all of that.

 

[dogsearch]

I saw this discussed upthread so I'm bringing forward my own post w/the screengrabs of MR's charges from NG on the 12/3 show - for easy reference

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

Can we add the charges and new info to the timeline thread?
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[DylansMom34]

Probably neither parent is perfect but it seems Elaine was trying to straighten out her life. Dylan didn't meet with foul play on her watch.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Jmo, but I now feel like maybe the "scowlie face" sweet Dylan sent in his last text msg to mom letting her know that yes, dad had in fact picked him up from the airport was his sad and/or angry at possibly seeing dad had been drinking..not accusing just really thinking on this sweet boys last words/texts..jmo.

Maybe Mark did take the phone and cut it off or even smash it in seeing that Dylan was trying to send a text to mom saying hey, dads been drinking??..idk..jmo.

 

[SCHMAE]

No apology needed. I think we're all pretty much on the same page.

I am in the Dylan never made it dads house camp. IMHO and all of that.

I've been in that camp Flyer, for days.
I think the video from walmart made me think
he might have made it to dad's house but
I'm not sure of anything. I only wish he'd had
a happy sweet little boy carefree life before
this happened..........whatever this is. I do think
it's a slight possibility that he might have run off ,though,
just slight. Who would want to live through that ?

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Judges/Courts wouldn't have such a hard time with custody/visitation decisions is so many parents didn't lie and use the court system as a weapon against their ex, regardless of how it hurts the child.

Sorry, I don't 'great parent' from either the mom or dad. JMO

sorry I have to disagree, too often parents tell the truth and are not believed by the courts because the ex's legal defence plays the parental alienation card. or they are believed but the court deems that since there has been no further incidents or threats in the last 6 months there is therefore no real concern.

this is my opinion based on my observations of what my younger siblings were subjected to as well as what a few friends children have suffered.

 

[Crosby87]

What could make LE convinced that Dylan did not set off on foot and then have some sort of accident? Just because he hasn't been found? We know that people often are not found after accidents for months, even if inside a large vehicle. So why/how can they rule that out?

BBM

If LE can prove Dylan did not spend the night at his father's house, then there is no way Dylan set off on foot Monday morning and had an accident.....Dylan could not leave if he never arrived at his dad's Sunday evening.

 

[TexasCharm]

Ladies and gentlemen ... teach your children how to chose spouses that will be proper parents to their future children.

These two sounded like they were just poison to each other and more concerned about "winning" than the welfare of their kids.

Just DAM .... (pun intended)

imo

 

[Tennlyn]

Maybe not Mom's either.

I respectfully disagree. So far I've seen a strong woman who fought to get out of an abusive relationship and rebuild a healthy life for herself and her sons. MOO

 

[The Cheese]

I wonder if they were sealed following the hearing
of if they were sealed in the last 17 days.
WHAT IF MR went to his lawyer that Monday
morning to request them getting sealed ?
Can you do that ? I know for juveniles you have
to go through a process to 'expunge' records or
something. I wonder if there is a way to have normally
public records become sealed records if one party
chooses to.
In fact, surely there is a way because don't
billionaires do that when they get into legal trouble?
Seal the court docs? Hmmmmmm

Family court records are all always sealed, I believe.

 

[cluciano63]

BBM

If LE can prove Dylan did not spend the night at his father's house, then there is no way Dylan set off on foot Monday morning and had an accident.....Dylan could not leave if he never arrived at his dad's Sunday evening.

If they could prove that, he would at least be a POI or a suspect, or even arrested, IMO. He was last seen with the child, now gone, and would have been lying to police at the very least.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Well, I take back my opinion that Dylan didn't seem to have anything to run away from or seem to have been forced to grow up beyond his years.

This is all so sad.

I really don't feel like we know enough to say that ER was straightening out her life and MR wasn't. For all we know step dad isn't any better for the family. Not sleuthing or accusing- I just mean that we didn't know this, we certainly don't know Dylan's current life either.

What a huge task LE has before them. So sad for this sweet boy. There is something about his eyes peeking from behind his shaggy hair that just makes you want to know him.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Given the nature of allegations w/drinking and violence coupled with the reference to monthly court proceedings since 2005, I wonder if either parent was under some kind of court mandated drug/alcohol testing. Which would make some sense with monthly court appts.

Either way it seems like this is an ongoing issue but with ER moving away in July and the custody changing, maybe the monthly check-ins got more lax and/or further spaced apart. All just a thought. Drinking never makes things better. Not when kids are involved.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Judges/Courts wouldn't have such a hard time with custody/visitation decisions is so many parents didn't lie and use the court system as a weapon against their ex, regardless of how it hurts the child.

Sorry, I don't 'great parent' from either the mom or dad. JMO

Probably neither parent is perfect but it seems Elaine was trying to straighten out her life. Dylan didn't meet with foul play on her watch.

I agree DM34.. While no, neither parent may have been "BEST PARENT OF THE YEAR", but IMO and IMO only.. A very clear picture has emerged of what or rather I should say who was the parent that was abusive, volatile, and uncontrollable..while Elaine may have her faults..Hell, so do I and I, for one have zero words of judgement for her.. I do not see her using the courts or her children as pawns to hurt her husband/ex-husband.. I see her using the courts as they are meant to be used..getting a divorce from a man who is abusive and volatile, filing with the courts when these abuses took place, attempting to remove her children as best she could from such a volatile situation, and moving on with her and her children's life as best as she could..

So, so, so very sadly Dylan IMO has now paid the ultimate price for this man's deep seated hatred for his ex-wife..these are jmo..

 

[kkdj]

also from the article...

•For the next two years, the couple went through divorce proceedings. In 2008, mom, Elaine Redwine, claimed she had a confrontation with her ex-husband Mark in the early hours of July 4. She wrote, "He was very drunk and grabbed me and took a swing at his son." She said Dylan reacted and hit Mark.

BBM

Oh, my...Dylan was only 9 years old.......WTH

Oh my! Do we know if mark has a history of drinking?
So my next question is, did he drink the day/night he picked up Dylan?
My next question is was alcohol bought at walmart that night?