CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #11

[oceanblueeyes]

Josh Powell and both his sons ended up dead during supervised visitation. Or at least what was supposed to be supervised visitation. Enough said.

But that is like lumping millions of cases altogether in the same box when it is far from it Jenny.

 

[dlc]

I don't see anything irregular about his question. He checked with friends in the area first, and when they hadn't heard from Dylan, he called Dylan's mom. Seems perfectly normal when a person is missing to contact the people in his circle, no matter how far away. She has said Dylan checked in with her pretty regularly. So naturally MR would consider she might have heard from him.

Just looking at it another way, I don't know if the (sic) word Ms. Redwine was looking for was "disconcerting" or "concerning," but if my kids were with their dad for the week, and I got a call from him asking if I'd heard from them, it would give me one of those anxious moments, because it kind of implies there's something going on/or he's not sure where they are. I don't know, maybe that's my own personal makeup.

 

[mmmagique]

That doesnt mean it ever happened in this case though. Are they still saying MR is not a suspect?

Just because some do .......the vast majority do not wind up dead or harmed at all.

I believe the LE's exact words were "we are not calling Mark Redwine a suspect".

That's not the same as LE saying "Mark Redwine is not a suspect."

 

[SailorMoon]

Arrest happening post haste? Why in the world would anyone think that? This is such an outlandish theory that I find alien abduction more likely.

Exactly, it's a theory - better yet - do you know what really happened?? What's your theory???

I was just thinking that maybe ER thought MR would immediately be arrested and charged based on her fingerpointing. Guess what, he wasn't. Just throwing out ideas here. We really don't have a lot to go on.

 

[kkdj]

Well, based on a cases we know about, not all judges are that careful about child's safety.

I know that's true. And honestly if we didn't get such a great judge, along with evidence, I don't know what we would have done! It was a horrible situation.

 

[LotusPawprint]

Maybe they did this without thinking it through and know now they have screwed up highly and can be held responsible for kidnapping Dylan from his dad's home because Dylan is a minor and cant just leave on his own without permission. When a child is with their other parent for visitation that parent becomes the custodial parent for that time period.

I never said ER btw.

There is a good reason why LE hasnt ruled out an abduction IMO.

IMO

In your theory, is Dylan unharmed?

 

[truecrime]

edit (Just saw the (JMO)

 

[mck16]

If you will allow me to jump off of this post .....

I want to address the infamous "scowl" emoticon..

Since it is known that ER and MR have an adversarial relationship, and I would bet that Dylan has grown up hearing crap from both sides about his other parent.

I wonder what was being said between ER and DR prior to his getting on the plane. Was there MR trashing? Was there speculation about whether MR would be on time .. or there at all? Was anything negative said to DR about his dad during this time? Or something as innocent as her telling him to text her the SECOND he lands or hooks up with dad.

If so, and after DR has landed and didn't immediately text his mom. What can we supposed her text might have said that could elicit a scowlie face response.

Somthing like:
__________________

Sooo R U there? Did UR dad actually come?


Yes. ;-(

___________________

Of course the content of the texts is unknown to us so this is all supposition. I just think sooooooooo much is being made of the scowlie face and it could have been as simple as him wishing the digs would stop.

imo imo imo

I agree with your post, but the syntax should be and not ;-( The semicolon is wrong. should be a colon. Then your symbols won't show up but the result. Unless I am misunderstanding your goal. jmo

 

[Angelo]

LE referred to his errands that day as a "couple of meetings". I do believe he had a prearranged appointment with his attorney, not just a drop in to make a payment. And it could very well have been about his displeasure with the current custody situation, we just don't know. What I originally said was that I'd like to know what it was about.

MOO

I am suspicious about MR's errands on Monday morning. Was it a way for MR to establish an alibi for the time he claims Dylan disappeared? Did MR want to be seen acting normal and going about his business?

MR's claim that Dylan did not get up Monday morning to go to his friend's house doesn't feel right to me.

Dylan's cell phone being turned off and never being used after Sunday night is a BIG red flag.

 

[Confusion]

There are a number of cases where unsupervised visitation was granted, and a child ended up dead. So the judge granting visitation doesn't mean the child is going to be safe while visiting.

Caylee A. didn't go visit anyone IIRC, and look what happened to her. Obviously, there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to custody battles, divorces, murders, or many other things. MOO

 

[Salem]

I still want to know if the homes of the nearby RSOs were actually searched.

Salem

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Just looking at it another way, I don't know if the (sic) word Ms. Redwine was looking for was "disconcerting" or "concerning," but if my kids were with their dad for the week, and I got a call from him asking if I'd heard from them, it would give me one of those anxious moments, because it kind of implies there's something going on/or he's not sure where they are. I don't know, maybe that's my own personal makeup.

If I got a call from my ex asking if I'd heard from our daughter while she was supposed to be with him I'd be thinking whats happened.

even worse to get it by text that would really raise my hackles up

 

[lishac23]

Forgive me if this has been provided already, but I was talking to my mom about this case and she mentioned that she read that the "scent dogs" picked up Dylan's scent by the lake but that it could not be followed back to the Dad's house or vice versa. Does anyone know if this is true or not? Wondering where his scent lead to if not the house.

 

[jjenny]

It were cadaver dogs that picked up the scent of decomposition at the lake. That's why lake searches were done. But cadaver dogs don't pick up a specific scent of a person. Instead they pick up a scent of decomposition.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

omg its 5am here, way way past my bedtime, this case really is consuming me.

I hope when I return (when theres another 40 or more pages no doubt) that theres some good news, any news for that matter.

Dylan is in my prayers

 

[imamaze]

This thread is getting pretty long, going to work on a new one now, will be closing this one shortly.

Ima

 

[lishac23]

It were cadaver dogs that picked up the scent of decomposition at the lake. That's why lake searches were done. But cadaver dogs don't pick up a specific scent of a person. Instead they pick up a scent of decomposition.

Thanks jjenny. Forgive me if this is a stupid question...so does this mean that the dogs picked up the scent of decomp, but it could be anything and not specifically Dylan?

 

[Kamille]

If you will allow me to jump off of this post .....

I want to address the infamous "scowl" emoticon..

Since it is known that ER and MR have an adversarial relationship, and I would bet that Dylan has grown up hearing crap from both sides about his other parent.

I wonder what was being said between ER and DR prior to his getting on the plane. Was there MR trashing? Was there speculation about whether MR would be on time .. or there at all? Was anything negative said to DR about his dad during this time? Or something as innocent as her telling him to text her the SECOND he lands or hooks up with dad.

If so, and after DR has landed and didn't immediately text his mom. What can we supposed her text might have said that could elicit a scowlie face response.

Somthing like:
__________________

Sooo R U there? Did UR dad actually come?


Yes. ;-(

___________________

Of course the content of the texts is unknown to us so this is all supposition. I just think sooooooooo much is being made of the scowlie face and it could have been as simple as him wishing the digs would stop.

imo imo imo

You know I can absolutely see that conversations between DR and ER regarding his father might not have been about what a great guy he is and I'm not saying that's right, but it happens. You've also got a grown adult son living with Dylan who seems to have his own opinions and has seen probably more between his parents than the younger son. There is also no talk of him visiting with his Dad in the past three years or so since he is no longer required to under any court order. So it is quite possible that Dylan goes into any visitation with his father with a negative attitude. Again, not saying that it is right but it does happen.

The question here is what kind of situation between father and son could that generate on a long drive home, and what kind of buttons can that child push when interacting with his father? I've said before and I'll say it again that IF MR is somehow involved in whatever happened to Dylan, I do not believe that there was a premeditated plan. I do see the possibility of a fight gone out of control. The older son, according to court documents, has beat on his father. The younger son appeared to be part of that ordeal and therefore likely saw this. What are the chances that he as well wouldn't think twice about taking a swing at his father during an argument? And what if this is happening in a moving vehicle on a dark and rather desolute road?

Just pondering the only possibility I see that MR may have harmed his son. In a fit of anger, during an extremely heated argument and not in a premeditated plan to get back at his ex-wife.

MOO

 

[mysticrose]

I thought I would post this timeline again to help us out about text's and things like that:

Timeline of events in Dylan Redwine case

Day 1: Sunday, Nov. 18

Evening: Dylan arrives in Durango from Colorado Springs after 6th Judicial District Judge David Dickinson issued a court order granting Mark Redwine, Dylan’s father, visitation rights during the Thanksgiving holiday. Dylan sends his mother, Elaine, a text message that says he has arrived. Elaine Redwine tells The Durango Herald that Dylan’s text message ended with an emoticon that was interpreted as a scowl.


Day 2: Monday, Nov. 19


6:30 a.m.: According to Dylan’s friends, he was to meet them at this time in Bayfield. His friends say he did not show up.

7:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he left his house to run errands in Durango. This is the last time he saw Dylan.

11:30 a.m.: Mark Redwine says he returns home and finds that Dylan is gone.

2 p.m.: A postal worker may have seen Dylan walking on County Road 501 near Vallecito with another boy. Both reportedly were wearing hooded sweatshirts and had black backpacks.

Afternoon: Mark Redwine checks with Dylan’s friends when he does not find Dylan at his home and notifies Elaine Redwine that the teen is missing.

6 p.m.: Mark Redwine calls police to report Dylan missing. Shortly after, La Plata County Search and Rescue begins searching for Dylan in areas near County Road 500, where his father lives, north of Vallecito Reservoir.


Day 3: Tuesday, Nov. 20


Afternoon: Two rescue workers think they may have seen Dylan on two separate occasions but say he fled into the forest. One of the sightings turned out to be a jogger; the other sighting may have been the same jogger or Dylan.


La Plata County Search and Rescue look all day using ground search teams and dogs but pull out before dark in the hopes that Dylan would be encouraged to go to a friend’s house for the night

Read More......................................

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...ws01/Timeline-of-events-in-Dylan-Redwine-case

 

[imamaze]

Ok, everythings ready to go on the new thread. Will be closing this one in 1 minute. Please continue here...

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